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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:55 am 
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Nothing particularly interesting here, in fact wasn't going to bother with it except for the misspellings, bad grammar and punctuation, clunky English etc [-(

And one of these people who use the word 'petrol', when maybe 'fuel' would be a bit more accurate, or even 'petrol and diesel', if need be.

Then something about fare tables and 'lowest common denominator' :-s

Not a clue what they mean by that, but don't think that's how the phrase should be used, either in its technical mathematical sense, or the more informal meaning.


Nuneaton taxi companies plead for fare rise to cope with rising petrol and wage costs

https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/in-yo ... e-24410313

The last rise was in 2016

Two of Nuneaton's biggest taxi companies have made a plea to rise fares to help cope with rising petrol and wage costs. They say that the last price increase was in 2016 and now they, like the rest of the country, are facing an increase in petrol prices.

MI Taxi’s and Crystal Taxi’s have made an application to Nuneaton and Bedworth Borough Council for an increase in hackney carriage rise. They want the Tariff 1 start fare to rise from £3.50 to £4.10, which is 60p and the Tariff 2, which is on bank holidays, starting fare to increase from £4.75 to £5.65 - an increase of 90p.

There is also a proposed rise for Tariff 3, which is journeys commencing on Christmas Day or Boxing Day, to rise from £6.20 to £7.40, a rise of £1.20.

There is also a request for a flat rate of 50p per passenger or item and the waiting time price to rise to 30p per minute in Tariff 1, to 45p in Tariff 2 and 60 per minute in Tariff 3.

There is also a request to allow companies to charge an additional £20 booking fee where drivers are undertaking journeys to airports to cover things like toll charges, congestion charges and drop off fees.

'Great concern'

In an email to the council, John Igoe, director of Mi Taxis and chairman of Nuneaton and Bedworth Taxi Association, said: "The proposed new starting fares are the maximum amount that can be charged and if anyone chooses to charge less, then this will be there prerogative. Since the last increase the national minimum wage has risen by 23 per cent and is expected to rise again, meaning that we would not be in line with inflation."

It goes on to explain that they have looked into using electric vehicles, but it has proven to be 'too expensive' and asked if any grants were available.

In the meantime, he explains: "As the chairman of Nuneaton & Bedworth Taxi Association and the proprietor of MI Taxis Ltd, I have great concern as there are very few new drivers putting applications into the borough council to become taxi drivers. This in turn will have a massive effect on the trade and the public of Nuneaton and Bedworth."

The request will be looked at by councillor Sue Markham, cabinet member for public services, on Tuesday, July 26. In a report it explains the rising fuel costs as well as the increasing costs to run a taxi.

It also contains a table which has compiled to show the current comparison of fares using Tariff 1 on a two mile fare as being the lowest common denominator.

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This shows the borough's current ranking is higher than Birmingham and Leicester but lower than Hinckley and North Warwickshire.

At the meeting Cllr Markham is being asked to make a decision on the following:

    Either approve, reject or amend the application for an increase in the tariff for taxis or decide on a different tariff to that requested and then allow publication of a proposed table of Taxi fare tariff for comment.

    Approve, reject or amend that additional payments can be claimed from the hirer when the driver / operator incurs additional costs, this will include both Hackney Carriages and Private Hire Vehicles. Agreed prior to travel and itemised receipt given at end of journey.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:34 am 
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And one of these people who use the word 'petrol',


the word petrol is actually a brand name like coke it was coined in the 1920s by Carless Capel & Leonard so I can understand it's use after all how many people say coke when they mean cola ?

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Why on earth would they need to have a £20 booking fee for airports added to the tariff sheet? As far as I am aware there are no airports in the district so any job would be out of district and can be whatever is agreed.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:40 am 
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Why on earth would they need to have a £20 booking fee for airports added to the tariff sheet? As far as I am aware there are no airports in the district so any job would be out of district and can be whatever is agreed.



Coventry is only just down the road albeit nowt flies from there these days I suspect it is to cover the extra time loading and unloading and the drop off charges

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And one of these people who use the word 'petrol',


the word petrol is actually a brand name like coke it was coined in the 1920s by Carless Capel & Leonard so I can understand it's use after all how many people say coke when they mean cola ?

The word was patented in 1896.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:55 pm 
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edders23 wrote:
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And one of these people who use the word 'petrol',


the word petrol is actually a brand name like coke it was coined in the 1920s by Carless Capel & Leonard so I can understand it's use after all how many people say coke when they mean cola ?

The word was patented in 1896.



I stand corrected I thought it was later than that although the company goes back to the Victorian era

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edders23 wrote:
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Why on earth would they need to have a £20 booking fee for airports added to the tariff sheet? As far as I am aware there are no airports in the district so any job would be out of district and can be whatever is agreed.



Coventry is only just down the road albeit nowt flies from there these days I suspect it is to cover the extra time loading and unloading and the drop off charges

Yes but the jobs will be out of area so it doesn't need to be on the tariff sheet, they can charge it anyway.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:05 pm 
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They want the Tariff 1 start fare to rise from £3.50 to £4.10, which is 60p and the Tariff 2, which is on bank holidays, starting fare to increase from £4.75 to £5.65 - an increase of 90p.

Does the journalist really need to tell his readership that £3.50 to £4.10 is a 60p increase, and likewise £4.75 to £5.65 an increase of 90p?

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They want the Tariff 1 start fare to rise from £3.50 to £4.10, which is 60p and the Tariff 2, which is on bank holidays, starting fare to increase from £4.75 to £5.65 - an increase of 90p.

Does the journalist really need to tell his readership that £3.50 to £4.10 is a 60p increase, and likewise £4.75 to £5.65 an increase of 90p?



It probably took him an hour to work it out himself so of course he/she does

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Think some people are barking up the wrong tree about 'petrol' prices. The cost pressures in the trade are because of petrol and diesel prices. Yet the article only mentions petrol. So either say 'petrol and diesel', or use the generic term 'fuel'.

Using the coke analogy, it's like an article saying that the price of fizzy orange had gone up, and that was intended to cover cola and lemonade as well, blah, blah.

A better generic term would be 'fizzy drinks', or 'soft drinks' [-(

So either say that the cab trade is facing cost pressures from rising *petrol and diesel* costs, or just say rising *fuel* costs to cover both.

It's like the term 'petrol station' when more accurately it's a filling station or fuel station.

Of course, that's partly a historical legacy when the vast majority of cars used petrol. I mean, you never hear people refer to a 'diesel station' when they're filling their oil burner up at Shell or BP :lol:


Random article using the word 'fuel' rather than petrol or diesel:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=38468&p=419240&hilit=fuel#p419240


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Of course, that's partly a historical legacy when the vast majority of cars used Motor Spirit. I mean, you never hear people refer to a 'diesel station' when they're filling their gas oil burner up at Shell or BP


corrected to meet the pedantry standards required in this thread :lol:

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Of course, that's partly a historical legacy when the vast majority of cars used petrol.

I've just bought my first petrol car in 35 years. :shock:

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So this area hasn't had an increase in 6 years, yet one person has decided the trade doesn't need an increase at the moment, but will look again at it in November. ](*,)

Taxi journeys in Nuneaton and Bedworth will not cost more after price rise plea rejected

A plea made by two of Nuneaton's biggest taxi companies to increase fares has been rejected. - for now. MI Taxis and Crystal Taxis made an application to Nuneaton and Bedworth Borough Council to increase how much they charge.

They said that it was needed to help with rising petrol and wage costs. In letters to the council, the two firms explained that they wanted to increase the amount people paid per journey.

They asked for the Tariff 1 start fare to rise from £3.50 to £4.10, which is 60p and the Tariff 2, which is on bank holidays, starting fare to increase from £4.75 to £5.65 - an increase of 90p. There was also a proposed rise for Tariff 3, which is journeys commencing on Christmas Day or Boxing Day, to rise from £6.20 to £7.40, a rise of £1.20.

During a single member cabinet meeting, councillor Sue Markham, cabinet member for public services, looked at the pleas from the firms. She decided to reject the proposal at this current time but did agree to reviewing the situation in November.

But Cllr Markham did agree that additional payments can be claimed from the hirer when the driver/operator incurs additional costs, such as toll charges, congestion charges and drop off fees. The costs will be agreed prior to travel and itemised receipts given at the end of the journey. This will become a condition of the Hackney Carriage/Private Hire licences.

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But Cllr Markham did agree that additional payments can be claimed from the hirer when the driver/operator incurs additional costs, such as toll charges, congestion charges and drop off fees. The costs will be agreed prior to travel and itemised receipts given at the end of the journey. This will become a condition of the Hackney Carriage/Private Hire licences.

And if I was a private hire license holder I would tell the dictator that she can poke her unlawful conditions. #-o

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