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| Author: | StuartW [ Tue Sep 13, 2022 11:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | London black cab driver cleared of raping drunken passenger |
Live case But wouldn't be at all surprised if the jury finds the phone recording quite compelling evidence Taxi driver asked woman to 'show him her breasts' before 'raping' her at South London flat https://www.mylondon.news/news/zone-1-n ... w-25000359 David Jacobs had collected the intoxicated woman from a bar in central London A London taxi driver was caught on voice recordings encouraging a drunk female passenger to sleep with him, a court has heard. David Jacobs, 61, collected the woman from Central London and was overheard saying “You might as well let me f*** you” before allegedly raping her at her South London flat. Today (Monday, September 12), jurors at Inner London Crown Court heard that on February 3, 2022, the woman, who is aged in her late twenties, had gone to a bar called Fleets near St Paul’s Cathedral for celebratory work drinks. After drinking an “awful lot” of wine at a free bar, she felt she had reached “tipping point” at around 8:30pm and decided to travel home. CCTV was shown of the woman falling backwards in the bar while collecting her bag and coat, and two employees followed her outside and watched as she hailed a black cab taxi. During the journey home, she recalled becoming “upset” at which point her driver, Jacobs, began to speak with her. “She noticed that the conversations were going in strange ways, it was becoming suggestive,” prosecutor Amanda Hamilton said. The woman recalled telling the defendant that she wished to kill herself and later told police officers “she wasn’t being suggestive towards him in any way and felt that she was having a mental health episode”. Ms Hamilton continued: “She can’t remember what he said but she knows he asked her to show him her breasts and that’s what prompted her to press the button on her phone.” During the voice recording, which was played to the jury, Jacobs can be heard saying “You might as well let me f*** you”. The woman responded “So what, so you mean if I want to die I would let you f*** me” to which Jacobs replied “Yes, because you don’t care, you don’t care do you”. The woman claims to have no recollection of arriving home, but recalled that Jacobs was “on top of her penetrating his vagina with his penis”. “She doesn’t remember getting out of the taxi, opening her front door or closing the front door.” Ms Hamilton said. “She remembers a large old man who pulled her work dress over her head. She could hardly stand when this was happening. She couldn’t remember what happened to the rest of her clothes.” She continued: “She told him she had to go to sleep and she had to get up to work and he told her he would soon be finished and carried on.” The woman then “blacked out” and could not recall what time he had left her property. Shortly afterwards, she had sent her friend a voice note to say “there had been an old man in her flat and that he’d done things to her”. The following morning, she woke at 6am feeling “anxious, confused and violated” and discovered her cushion on the floor covered in vomit. She began “piecing the events of the night before together” and called a friend to play the recording, before deciding to report the incident to the police. During her police interview, she recalled that the man had a “hairy body with a beer belly” and that he had informed her he was married with children. A rape investigation was launched and following CCTV analysis, Jacobs was arrested and charged. Whilst it is “agreed by all sides that there was intentional penetration by Mr Jacobs through his penis”, he denies that it was rape and claims that the intercourse was consensual. He has denied one count of rape with the trial due to continue for the remainder of this week. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 61-year-old London HCD on trial for rape of woman passen |
I think we should keep to quoting/pasting press articles and not commenting until the jury has returned a verdict.
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| Author: | StuartW [ Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 61-year-old London HCD on trial for rape of woman passen |
Amazed he got away with this, although there's not much about the defence evidence, but it certainly looks like his side of the story is a bit different to that portrayed in the earlier article But looks like he's lost his badge over it all, although all its says in here is that he won't work as a driver again. Black cab driver, 61, is cleared of raping young City worker in her flat - after claiming 'it's not rape for a man to have sex with a woman who's been drinking' despite her being so drunk she fell over and was helped into taxi https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -flat.html
City worker got into Jacobs' cab after a night out with colleagues on February 3 The court heard the young woman had no memory of opening her front door Jacobs, a married father-of-two, said it was consensual and was cleared of rape ![]() Image: Mail Online A black cab driver has been cleared by a jury of raping a drunken passenger in her flat after taking her home. David Jacobs, 61, was accused of sexually assaulting the City worker after collecting her from Fleets near St Paul's Cathedral on February 3 this year. The woman, in her 20s, drank ten glasses of wine and a beer in three hours before she was helped into Jacobs' taxi by colleagues who feared she was so drunk she might upset her boss. CCTV was shown in court of the woman falling backwards in the bar while collecting her bag and coat. Amanda Hamilton, prosecuting, said the woman recalled Jacobs asking her to show him her breasts during the journey to which she pressed the record button on her phone. During the recording, played to jurors at Inner London Crown Court, Jacobs can be heard saying 'You might as well let me f*** you'. The woman said she woke up the following morning lying next to a pile of her vomit with no recollection of opening or closing her front door. She later told police she recalled a man with a hairy body and pot belly pulling a dress over her head, then having sex with her. Jacobs, who has worked as a taxi driver for more than 20 years, claimed his fare became flirty very quickly as she allegedly showed her breasts to him to which he admitted asking 'are they yours?'. The married father-of-two maintained that the woman consented to sexual intercourse at her flat and the jury cleared him of rape. Amanda Hamilton, prosecuting, had told jurors Jacobs was married with two children who are older than the victim 'and so you seriously expect us to believe this slurring staggering woman invited him in like a siren calling him onto the rocks to cause harm. 'He wants you to believe that he is a victim, that he is the victim of a flirty attention seeking seducer who has set him up and that's why he is here and that's the bed rock on which he has built his arguments, this was all her plan,' said Ms Hamilton But Rhiannon Crimmons, KC, defending Jacobs, told the jury in her closing speech: 'How many times in your life have you heard people say 'I can't believe I did that' 'omg I cant believe that' after a night out?' She said: 'People make bad decisions when they've been drinking all the time, whether or not someone regrets that situation is neither here nor there.' 'There is no requirement the consent be verbal it can be from acts or behaviour. 'It is not rape for a man to have sex with a woman who has been drinking, the question is what she could understand, that doesn't change regardless of if the man was sober or drunk, just because a woman has been drinking it doesn't mean a man can't have sex with her. 'I'm not saying David Jacobs is any kind of saint, quite evidently he is not, he is a married man, he hurt his wife, his family, he's lost his job. 'He will not work as a black cab driver again, he should never have had sex with a passenger no matter what she said or did and of course he will pay for all of that he will have to rebuild the relationships. 'In his family he is in his own words the very least a fool, but he is not a rapist.' Jacobs, of Barking, east London, denied and was cleared of rape. |
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| Author: | StuartW [ Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 61-year-old London HCD on trial for rape of woman passen |
Quote: Black cab driver, 61, is cleared of raping young City worker in her flat - after claiming 'it's not rape for a man to have sex with a woman who's been drinking' despite her being so drunk she fell over and was helped into taxi Of course, the law seems to be that if the victim is too drunk then they're deemed incapable of giving informed consent, however the (sober) driver might have perceived things But while that might be the strict legal position, it seems that jury members tend to view these things less strictly, which I'd guess is what happened in this case
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| Author: | StuartW [ Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: London black cab driver cleared of raping drunken passen |
Some other stuff in an earlier Mail article. Most of it is just a repitition of the stuff above, but here's the link if anyone wants to read the whole piece: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -flat.html Amanda Hamilton, prosecuting, asked Jacobs about his police interview in which he was asked by the police officer if he had ever had sex with a passenger before. Jacobs had replied: ‘Oh mate, I don’t know, a few years ago when I first got the cab and [a woman] started talking about Fake Taxis (porn site) where the bloke picks women up and if they can’t pay in cash they have to pay in another way and all that. ‘I didn’t have sex with her but it was like an encounter, do you know what I mean, I’m not proud of it.’ Ms Hamilton asked: ‘So, when the officers asked if you had ever had sexual relations with a passenger you brought into your cab you said yes?’ The married father-of-two replied: ‘I didn’t understand the question, I thought they meant like talking’ Jacobs said, shaking his head. ‘I was in a high-pressure situation, I thought they were going to investigate the situation,’ said Jacobs. ‘So this previous encounter was sexual chat and not sexual touching in anyway?’ said Ms Hamilton. ‘Absolutely not,’ replied Jacobs. Jurors heard the City worker necked ten glasses of wine and a beer between 5:30pm and 8:30pm. on February 3. Giving her closing speech prosecutor Amanda Hilton said: 'The victim was stumbling around slurring her words and not making much sense, she falls over on CCTV as she goes to pick up her bag. 'You might wonder how given the fact that she couldn't stay upright but she managed to get in the cab, record him and speak to her friend on the phone how you resolve those differences. 'The Crown say the things drunk people can do is because they are activities of daily living, they are routine things, getting a taxi,' said Ms Hamilton A toxicology report of the victim's urine revealed an extreme level of intoxication but Ms Hamilton said: 'One such myth is that women who drink too much ask for trouble, they don't.' The woman was put into a cab by two of her colleagues who were fearful her drunken state may detrimentally affect her working relationship with her boss, the court heard. 'You could conclude to yourself these women have a very boozy lifestyle something is bound to go wrong and think little beyond that or you could look carefully at the victim who she is who she knows and how she survives as a single person,' said Ms Hamilton 'Yes she drinks very heavily because she seems to function perfectly well in her City job, but her alcohol helps her anxiety.' The prosecutor said the complainant recalls details of the attack such as Jacobs 'lifting her dress over her head'. When she told Jacobs 'I've got to go to sleep' he said 'let me finish', Ms Hamilton added. She also referred to a text message sent by the alleged victim to her friend saying: 'There's an old fat man in my flat.' Ms Hamilton said: 'She was reporting that an uninvited person had entered her safe space and violated her almost contemporaneously.' She told the jury Jacobs was married with two children who are older than the victim 'and so you seriously expect us to believe this slurring staggering woman invited him in like a siren calling him onto the rocks to cause harm. 'He wants you to believe that he is a victim, that he is the victim of a flirty attention seeking seducer who has set him up and that's why he is here and that's the bed rock on which he has built his arguments, this was all her plan,' said Ms Hamilton 'He violated a woman in her own home, she says she can't live there now and hasn't spent a night in the bedroom where the rape happened since that night. 'Her patchy memory of her being undressed and him towering above her tells her everything you want to know about whether she was consenting or not.' |
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| Author: | edders23 [ Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: London black cab driver cleared of raping drunken passen |
I still believe despite the acquittal that he was potentially another Warboys so glad to see him booted out of the trade
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| Author: | Sussex [ Tue Sep 27, 2022 3:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: London black cab driver cleared of raping drunken passen |
The jury has made their decision so he is 100% not guilty. Maybe the jury decided the lady wasn’t that drunk as she was alert enough to set her phone to record in the taxi. Horrible situation for everyone involved, but I have to agree with TfL that the fella is no longer ‘fit and proper’. |
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