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Author:  StuartW [ Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:53 am ]
Post subject:  E Lothian says banning rear-loader WAVs will deter hobbyists

Reading between the lines here, presumably WAV HCs are compulsory at the moment, but they're intending disallowing rear-loaders.

But I'd be very surprised if there are many rank wheelchair hires in East Lothian, so even having WAVs seems a tad excessive - the population of Tranent in the photo, for example, is just 10,000.


New East Lothian taxi restrictions will hit 30% of the county's fleet

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/ed ... s-25960448

A number of taxis in East Lothian currently have rear door access for wheelchairs which mean passengers have to be 'bumped' off the pavement before being pushed up a ramp with none of the taxi ranks offering a dropped kerb

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New restrictions on the type of vehicles used by taxi and private hire operations in East Lothian will make 30% of those currently in use illegal.

East Lothian's licensing sub-committee today (Thursday) approved restrictions to the types of vehicles which can be used by operators in a move which council officers said would "encouraging a better public perception of the taxi trade".

And they were told it would reduce the number of 'substandard' taxi owners on the streets.

Alan Kelley, transport compliance officer, said the new restrictions would affect around 30% of East Lothian's taxi fleet.

He added taxi firms who were keen to continue and had worked through the pandemic and were turning out 'good and clean' taxis on a daily basis would be willing to make changes necessary.

He said: "What this would do is reduce the number of substandard taxi owners that we have out there, the guys that just turn out on a Friday or Saturday night, it is not their bread and butter it is just a hobby that they have because they have a vehicle that is suitable."

The move will, Mr Kelly said, mean all taxis will have side door access for wheelchair users and meet other essential disability standards.

He told the committee that there was a perception that people in wheelchairs were "shunned" by taxi firms because many vehicles used rear access doors.

He said: "To get into a rear opening vehicle in a wheelchair the user has to be bumped down from the kerb onto the road and pushed up an extended ramp by the taxi driver."

He added that there are no dropped kerbs at taxi ranks in the county and side doors would allow wheelchair users to enter from pavements.

Private hire cars will have to have a minimum of four separate doors (excluding rear facing doors), exactly four passenger seats if it is a saloon vehicle, or exactly eight passenger seats for multi passenger vehicles.

Saloon cars will have a maximum CO2 emission level of 150g/km for diesel vehicles and a maximum CO2 emission level of 165g/km for petrol vehicles with vehicles with 8 seats given a maximum CO2 emission level not exceeding 225g/km for either diesel or petrol powered vehicles.

All changes will need to be made by April 2025.

Committee convenor Councillor Colin McGinn questioned whether the changes would be cost prohibitive for some firms in the two year time scale

Council transport officer Andrew McLellan said the local authority had daily contact with taxi operators who were under council contracts and suggested those who were not were not always willing to discuss their situation.

He told the committee: "A lot of the smaller companies do tend to ask questions, if they are really struggling that is something we could look at and evaluate and if we thought it was a big problem we could bring it back to the committee to see if there was a need to allow a timeline for a company to meet it, but we need to have a line in the sand.

The committee approved the new restrictions with Councillor John McMillan, saying: "I think we are giving a heads up and there is sufficient time to tackle this."

Author:  StuartW [ Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: E Lothian say banning rear-loading WAVs will deter hobby

Quote:
Private hire cars will have to have a minimum of four separate doors (excluding rear facing doors), exactly four passenger seats if it is a saloon vehicle, or exactly eight passenger seats for multi passenger vehicles.

So does that mean they've got two-door vehicles plated as PHVs at the moment :-o

And what does the new requirement of 'exactly four passenger seats' mean? That implies that at the moment some have 3.5 or 4.5 seats, or whatever :lol:

But I'm guessing it means that saloon PHVs will have to be four-seaters, while anything bigger will have to have eight seats, and nothing inbetween? :?

No, me neither :-s

Author:  Sussex [ Fri Jan 13, 2023 8:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: E Lothian says banning rear-loader WAVs will deter hobby

So the clever folks at the council are basically adding an extra £20,000 to the cost of a new motor.

Maybe £30,000 by the time the world is 100% electric.

Absolutely f***ing clueless. ](*,)

Author:  bloodnock [ Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: E Lothian say banning rear-loading WAVs will deter hobby

StuartW wrote:
Quote:
Private hire cars will have to have a minimum of four separate doors (excluding rear facing doors), exactly four passenger seats if it is a saloon vehicle, or exactly eight passenger seats for multi passenger vehicles.

So does that mean they've got two-door vehicles plated as PHVs at the moment :-o

And what does the new requirement of 'exactly four passenger seats' mean? That implies that at the moment some have 3.5 or 4.5 seats, or whatever :lol:

But I'm guessing it means that saloon PHVs will have to be four-seaters, while anything bigger will have to have eight seats, and nothing inbetween? :?

No, me neither :-s


And yet a six seater is what many punters want,.....why couldnt they just put "Licenced to Carry 6 Passengers" on a plate.

Author:  bloodnock [ Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: E Lothian says banning rear-loader WAVs will deter hobby

Sussex wrote:
So the clever folks at the council are basically adding an extra £20,000 to the cost of a new motor.

Maybe £30,000 by the time the world is 100% electric.

Absolutely f***ing clueless. ](*,)



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