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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2024 2:29 pm 
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Not sure what to make of this without going into the nitty gritty. But I suspect there's excess and exaggeration on both sides here.

The fares don't sound too shabby. And the kind of arguments made by the trade are the sort that will always be made, and will always have some merit, whatever fare levels are.

But never keen on councillors or officials underlining that fares are maximums, thus encouraging confusion and conflict, essentially. If there's an increasing problem with a lack of drivers at night then I suspect that's one issue that's a problem in that it deters drivers from working. I'd guess they're making good money late at night, but there maybe comes a point when drivers just won't do it whatever money they're making. And, I mean, very few women at all will do it, which tells its own story.

And nothing about the amalgamation angle either - maybe that's now done and dusted, and they just have to get on with it, for better or worse.

And can't remember the details, but no doubt that's distorting things as well - the increases here seem modest, but in some parts at least they've maybe seen huge hikes in recent history due to the amalgamation.


Controversy over taxi fare rise in North Yorkshire

https://www.richmondshiretoday.co.uk/co ... yorkshire/

Taxi passengers in North Yorkshire are facing having to pay five per cent more per mile in the face of appeals to increase and lower maximum permitted fares across the county.

North Yorkshire Council’s executive agreed to the daytime rates rise, extending night-time rates time to eight hours from 10pm and increasing the maximum call-out charge from £1 to £1.50 after hearing taxi drivers were divided over the rates which should be charged.

If the move is not contested, day-time taxis will be able to charge £4 for the first quarter mile and 20p for every extra quarter mile or 35 seconds of waiting time.

Ripon cabbie Richard Fieldman told the leading councillors the 70 drivers from Whitby to Harrogate he represented were opposed to the proposals.

He said: “What you see before you today is totally unacceptable for those that work nights and the unsocial Christmas period. The proposal gives no increase to those working these hours which less and less drivers are prepared to work these days.”

The meeting was told one of the proposed changes, to start higher rates from 10pm rather than 11pm, would have a minimal impact on night-time drivers.

He added: “It is ironic that officers recognise that drivers need rewarding for late-night unsocial hours with abusive, alcohol and drug-fuelled customers, yet are failing to provide them with the same increase as the day-time drivers.”

Mr Fieldman said the £1 per mile call-out charge had remained the same for many years and when combined with higher fuel costs had become “unviable in a vast rural county” to travel significant distances to pick up passengers who only wanted to go a few miles.

The meeting heard drivers were refusing to do these types of journey, leaving some passengers unable to get home. In addition, areas such as Northallerton, Thirsk, Ripon and Skipton had serious shortages of drivers working unsocial hours and the proposals would ensure even less cover.

Ripon councillor Barbara Brodigan told the meeting recent changes in Barnsley similar to the North Yorkshire proposals had led to too few or no taxis being available during holiday periods and at night-time.

However, Councillor Kevin Foster, who represents Colburn, an area with amongst the highest levels of deprivation in the county, said he received a lot of complaints over the cost of taxi fares.

He said the public needed to be made aware taxis did not have to charge the maximum permitted fares.

Several executive members said they felt the proposals represented a reasonable compromise.

While the fare increase will be subject to consultation if anyone objects, managing our environment executive member Councilor Greg White said some people had called for the maximum charges to be lowered to make North Yorkshire more competitive with nearby areas.

He said a three-mile trip in Barnsley would cost £8.90, but in North Yorkshire it would be £14.98.

A report to the meeting showed while a 20-mile night-time journey in North Yorkshire would cost £68.67, in Bradford passengers would be charged £42.40, in Leeds and £49.45 in East Riding.

Coun White said: “We are already more expensive than Bradford, Durham, East Riding, Lancaster, Leeds, Redcar and Cleveland and York. So I’m really keen that we don’t get to the situation where we do an injustice to the people who use the taxi service by making those taxis become unaffordable.”


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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2024 2:30 pm 
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If the move is not contested, day-time taxis will be able to charge £4 for the first quarter mile and 20p for every extra quarter mile or 35 seconds of waiting time.

Eh? 80p per running mile? Don't think so, somehow [-(

Same old local rep wrote:
“What you see before you today is totally unacceptable for those that work nights and the unsocial Christmas period. The proposal gives no increase to those working these hours which less and less drivers are prepared to work these days.”

That's your supply and demand in action - fewer drivers will compensate those still working, without adjusting fare levels :-o


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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2024 8:38 pm 
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However, Councillor Kevin Foster, who represents Colburn, an area with amongst the highest levels of deprivation in the county, said he received a lot of complaints over the cost of taxi fares.

An idiot Green councillor said similar down here two years back.

I reminded him to his face that drivers had earned sweet FA over the last two years, some had died and many had left the trade.

In short, if you want to defend the deprived, you want to defend the income of cabbies.

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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2024 8:39 pm 
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Coun White said: “We are already more expensive than Bradford, Durham, East Riding, Lancaster, Leeds, Redcar and Cleveland and York. So I’m really keen that we don’t get to the situation where we do an injustice to the people who use the taxi service by making those taxis become unaffordable.”

I wonder how much council tax has increased over the last few years?

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