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| Author: | Sussex [ Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | East Ayrshire to suspend drivers for course non attendance |
East Ayrshire taxi drivers considered for suspension https://www.ayrshire-today.co.uk/news/2 ... uspension/ A number of East Ayrshire taxi drivers have been cited for suspension for failure to attend a disability awareness training course, according to a council report. The report, by the council's Chief Governance Officer David Mitchell, will be put to the Local Government Licensing Panel this week. It's recommended that the panel consider the suspension of up to 11 drivers in the area for failing to attend the course. Licensing conditions for taxi and private hire cars show that drivers must attend such types of training courses. According to the report, license holders are invited to attend a disability course on at least three occasions before being referred to the Licensing Panel for consideration of suspension. It's added that "licensing staff have made numerous attempts to contact the license holders by letter, email and phone". Staff have made contact with some of the named drivers, but some have not been reachable and they have been made aware of the process for failing to attending the training course. The report adds that it's accepted that some of the drivers may not still be using their license, "but have neither engaged with the Licensing Unit nor surrendered their licenses to allow record to be updated." The drivers named on the East Ayrshire Council website and recommended for the suspension of the license are: Ryan Hall; Scott Prentice; Jamie Hughes; Campbell Graham; Thomas McClung; Campbell Anderson; Jonathan Griffen; Taylor Brown; Graeme Tudhope; Paul Walsh; James Lennon. Disability awareness training course are held monthly at East Ayrshire Council headquarters, with the next one scheduled for September 9. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: East Ayrshire to suspend drivers for course non attendan |
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| Author: | edders23 [ Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: East Ayrshire to suspend drivers for course non attendan |
those drivers have prevented the officials from ticking a box and as we all know failure to box tick in local government circles is deemed akin to treason |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Tue Aug 20, 2024 8:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: East Ayrshire to suspend drivers for course non attendan |
edders23 wrote: those drivers have prevented the officials from ticking a box and as we all know failure to box tick in local government circles is deemed akin to treason But is losing your livelihood really a price worth paying? |
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| Author: | StuartW [ Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: East Ayrshire to suspend drivers for course non attendan |
Probably not much to it, and I'd guess they're mostly on three-year badges and have long since given up on the trade, assuming they were ever much involved in the first place - the Saturday night/Wednesday afternoon types, or doing a few weeks on the taxis till they find a 'proper job'. That's assuming they've ever used their badge in the first place  Quote: The report adds that it's accepted that some of the drivers may not still be using their license, "but have neither engaged with the Licensing Unit nor surrendered their licenses to allow record to be updated." By the same token, if the badge had run its course it very probably wouldn't have been renewed. To be fair to officials, they have to do it, because they can't just ignore it, for obvious reasons. I mean, it says the courses are held monthly, so they've had three reminders over three months, so over the course of a three-year badge they could have given up quite some time ago. But maybe the council and/or the press have made a bit of a meal over a bit of basic and necessary admin and procedural. For example, not really sure the drivers had to be specifically listed and named. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri Sep 27, 2024 6:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: East Ayrshire to suspend drivers for course non attendan |
East Ayrshire taxi drivers suspension for missing course A HANDFUL of East Ayrshire taxi drivers have been cited for suspension for failure to attend a disability awareness training course, according to a council report. The report, by the council's chief governance officer David Mitchell, will be put to the local government licensing panel next week. It is recommended that the panel consider the suspension of up to eight drivers in the area for failing to attend the course. Licensing conditions for taxi and private hire cars show that drivers must attend such types of training courses. According to the report, license holders are invited to attend a disability course on at least three occasions before being referred to the licensing panel for consideration of suspension. It is added that "licensing staff have made numerous attempts to contact the license holders by letter, email and phone". Staff have made contact with some of the named drivers, but some have not been reachable and they have been made aware of the process for failing to attend the training course. The report adds that it's accepted that some of the drivers may not still be using their license, "but have neither engaged with the licensing unit nor surrendered their licenses to allow records to be updated". The drivers named on the East Ayrshire Council website and recommended for the suspension of the license are: James Billingham; Marcus Sloan; Basharat Khan; Anthony Hawthorn; James Dunnachie; Ahmed Alkassim; Hamad Al-Khalil and Brian Kelly. Disability awareness training course are held monthly at East Ayrshire Council headquarters, with the next one scheduled for October 4 from 10am-12pm. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri Sep 27, 2024 6:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: East Ayrshire to suspend drivers for course non attendan |
Quote: The drivers named on the East Ayrshire Council website and recommended for the suspension of the license are: James Billingham; Marcus Sloan; Basharat Khan; Anthony Hawthorn; James Dunnachie; Ahmed Alkassim; Hamad Al-Khalil and Brian Kelly. That has got to be a breach of their data protection rights.  What other reason than spite would a council name them individually?
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| Author: | edders23 [ Fri Sep 27, 2024 7:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: East Ayrshire to suspend drivers for course non attendan |
crime of the century 
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri Sep 27, 2024 7:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: East Ayrshire to suspend drivers for course non attendan |
edders23 wrote: crime of the century That's the issue for me, no crime has been committed, yet the council are now banging out their names all over the place making it sound like they have done something wrong, when in fact they might only have retired from the trade. |
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| Author: | StuartW [ Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: East Ayrshire to suspend drivers for course non attendan |
I'm inclined to blame the press maybe, rather than the council - I'd guess the names have to be listed on the agenda papers for legal/procedural reasons, and it's the press who go a wee bit over the top by listing them all. In the normal course of events the names might be in the public domain, but effectively hidden away in official council papers which no one ever reads (even councillors themselves, to a degree at least ).As for 'crime of the century', well of course it isn't. But, I mean, if something's required as a condition of licence, and it's not adhered to, then the council could hardly ignore it
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| Author: | Sussex [ Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: East Ayrshire to suspend drivers for course non attendan |
Another 8 for the chop. (I've deleted their names) East Ayrshire Council: Taxi drivers suspension considered A SELECTION of East Ayrshire taxi drivers have been cited for suspension for failure to attend a disability awareness training course, according to an East Ayrshire Council report. The report, by the council's chief governance officer David Mitchell, will be put to the local government licensing panel this week. It is recommended that up to eight drivers are considered for suspension by the panel for failing to attend the course. Taxi drivers and private hire cars are bound by conditions that drivers must attend such types of training courses. According to the report, license holders are invited to attend a disability course on at least three occasions before being referred to the licensing panel for consideration of suspension. The report adds that it's accepted that some of the drivers may not still be using their license, "but have neither engaged with the licensing unit nor surrendered their licenses to allow records to be updated". It is stated that "licensing staff have made numerous attempts to contact the license holders by letter, email and phone". Disability awareness training course are held monthly at East Ayrshire Council headquarters, with the next one scheduled for December 13. |
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| Author: | grandad [ Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: East Ayrshire to suspend drivers for course non attendan |
StuartW wrote: I'm inclined to blame the press maybe, rather than the council - I'd guess the names have to be listed on the agenda papers for legal/procedural reasons, and it's the press who go a wee bit over the top by listing them all. In the normal course of events the names might be in the public domain, but effectively hidden away in official council papers which no one ever reads (even councillors themselves, to a degree at least ).As for 'crime of the century', well of course it isn't. But, I mean, if something's required as a condition of licence, and it's not adhered to, then the council could hardly ignore it At our Council anything to do with enforcement on drivers is done under an exempt paper so that no names are reported at all. The public are excluded from the meeting and the outcome is not reported unless it resulys in a criminal court case. |
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| Author: | StuartW [ Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: East Ayrshire to suspend drivers for course non attendan |
Not sure if it's a Scotland/England legislation thing, or if it's down to individual councils, but think tendency up here is to name drivers in scenarios like this, even before any action has been taken That said, although I've never really paid that much attention to the Fife Council minutes, sometimes names seem to be used, while at other times it's all anonymous. And, as regulars on here will know, as regards our annual inspections, any failures are named and shamed in the official agenda papers, which are obviously in the public domain  In fact quite a few years ago now, every plateholder, fail OR pass, had their names and full postal addresses (including postcodes) published in the official papers. Which, compared to practices elsewhere, seemed a bit over the top
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri Nov 22, 2024 8:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: East Ayrshire to suspend drivers for course non attendan |
Quote: Not sure if it's a Scotland/England legislation thing, or if it's down to individual councils, but think tendency up here is to name drivers in scenarios like this, even before any action has been taken Surprised at the difference TBH. Human rights law should be the same north or south of the wall. There is an argument to be made, one I wouldn't support, that if drivers are before committees for violent or sexual issues their names should be published. But not for not doing a poxy course, that smells of the council being very vindictive. |
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| Author: | Chris the Fish [ Sat Nov 23, 2024 6:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: East Ayrshire to suspend drivers for course non attendan |
Law Commission wanted it all open. Magistrates and Crown Courts are usually "Open", though they can be "In Camera" and Juvenile is usually "No Names" reported. On balance I think I prefer "Open". |
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