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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:56 pm 
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Review of taxi and private hire car overprovision policies underway

https://www.glasgow.gov.uk/article/1278 ... s-underway

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A review of the number of taxis and private hire cars eligible to operate in Glasgow is now open to the views from the general public.

Glasgow City Council's Licensing and Regulatory Committee signalled the review earlier this year after concerns had been raised about the availability of taxis and private hire cars in the city.

Academic and social research has highlighted that anxieties over securing a late taxi or private hire car can deter people from accessing Glasgow city centre's night time economy.

Glasgow currently has rules in place that manage the provision of taxis and private hire cars in the city.

Under these rules, it is considered there is no over provision of taxis until the number of vehicles reaches 1420. For private hire cars there is no overprovision until the number of vehicles licensed for hire reaches 3450.

The most recent figures show there are 1227 taxi vehicles and 3450 private hire cars operating in Glasgow.

To help the Licensing and Regulatory Committee determine the way ahead, a survey has been prepared that will assess support for the overprovision policies while also gathering information on the recent experiences of taxi and private hire car passengers in the city.

The survey been circulated among key stakeholders such as the taxi and private hire car trade, business and night time economy representatives, emergency services, community councils and others.

The wider public can also access the survey via the consultation hub on the council's website, which is available through this link - http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/consultations

Councillor Alex Wilson, Chair of the Licensing and Regulatory Committee, urged anyone and everyone with an interest in Glasgow's taxi and private hire car system to respond to the survey.

Councillor Wilson said: "Glasgow's taxis and private hire cars are a key part of the city's transport system and are vital for getting people safely to and from the city centre at night.

"But the trade has faced huge challenges such as the covid pandemic and the growth of phone-app technology. People's leisure habits have also changed significantly in recent years.

"Given the shifting landscape, it is right that the licensing committee reflects on whether our policies still proportionate and necessary. Gathering the widest possible range of views will help us ensure our policies strike the right balance for both operators and passengers.

"Anyone who has ever been in a taxi or private hire car in Glasgow has a stake in this policy review and I appeal to all to contribute to our survey."

The public consultation on overprovision policies for taxi and private hire car vehicles in Glasgow is now open until May 28, 2025.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2025 12:48 am 
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Under these rules, it is considered there is no over provision of taxis until the number of vehicles reaches 1420. For private hire cars there is no overprovision until the number of vehicles licensed for hire reaches 3450.

You'd at least think an official council press release would get it right - the test for taxis is no significant unmet demand, while for PHCs it's overprovision [-(

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The most recent figures show there are 1227 taxi vehicles and 3450 private hire cars operating in Glasgow.

So I wonder if the 1,227 figure is the final number after all the LEZ stuff is finally done and dusted, or are there still some plates hanging in with the exemptions and extensions and the like that might eventually be surrendered (or revoked)?

And does the 1,227 figure mean anyone can get a plate direct from the council if they present a compliant vehicle, because the SUD figure is 1,420?

Can't remember if there's a lower figure that still meets the SUD test, thus it may still not be possible to get a plate from the council :?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2025 2:14 am 
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Think there are still some non-LEZ running but also notice licensing committee appearances for the same thing. I'm guessing the council's looking for more evidence of a replacement being sourced.

Not sure what the position is with re-issuing of any unused plates just now.

The lower limit was 1278 - IIRC the last demand survey recommended ditching the lower limit but I'm not sure if it ever was.

I'll do the survey over the weekend. Although surely the proper taxi driver way would be NOT to do it and then moan that the results are all wrong :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2025 9:29 pm 
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Uber make the case for more private hire cars in Glasgow

https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/250 ... d-glasgow/

Global transport giant Uber wants Glasgow to lift the cap on private hire cars in the city.

The Californian app-based firm said that the city needs hundreds more drivers to meet the unmet demand, which it said is tens of thousands of trips a year.

The council is carrying out a consultation exercise before it makes a decision on the over provision cap.

Currently, there is a limit of 1420 taxis and 3450 private hire cars operating in Glasgow.

The private hire cap has been reached and there are 1238 taxis on the road.

Councillors are responding to calls from nighttime economy businesses running bars, restaurants, and clubs and the Chamber of Commerce through the city centre taskforce who said a lack of cars is a deterrent to people coming into town.

Uber said there is a huge number of people who they are unable to reach because they can't take on more drivers.

Matt Freckelton, Uber's Head of Cities in the UK, said: “We are advocating for the removal of the cap.

“Glasgow is the only city in Scotland which has implemented a cap in recent years. Edinburgh, Aberdeen and Dundee have looked into caps by running unmet demand surveys.

“The reason we're having this consultation is because of the negative economic impacts it's had on the city and the council has now realised that, yes, we do need to look and review this again.

“And you've only got to go talk to other key stakeholders, the Chamber of Commerce, owners of nightclubs who are saying at certain times of the day when the public transit system has shut down or is shutting down, so buses, trains underground, they would be concerned about getting into Glasgow if they then couldn't get out of Glasgow. “

Uber, which has a presence in more than 70 countries and 15,000 cities, has been in Glasgow since 2015 and wants to grow its operation.

The cap prevents any more cars being licensed and the firm said it could have hundreds more on their books if it were removed.

Uber said there are certain locations where the problem is most acute.

Mr Freckelton said: “To give you an example, across the two (city centre) railway stations in Glasgow last year, we had tens of thousands of unfulfilled trips that we could not meet because of the cap.

“And at certain times of the day, specifically the nighttime economy, wait times for one of our vehicles can be 200% higher when compared to Manchester and Edinburgh, and we take those two cities specifically because that's what Glasgow City Council benchmarks itself.

"And the same goes with the SEC. As well, near Scotland's largest exhibition centre, again in 2024 we had thousands and thousands of unfulfilled trip requests, and these are going to be from people who are probably mainly coming to Glasgow from the outside.

“And I think that what we don't want is their first experience of trying to navigate around Glasgow is a long wait time for a private hire car.”

Scottish Private Hire Association (SPHA), which believes an oversaturated market will lead to drivers “being forced to work more and more hours” to make a living, raising safety concerns.

It has said that the problem is not a lack of cars but a lack of customers, leaving drivers unable to make a decent living.

The survey via the consultation hub on the council’s website is available through this link www.glasgow.gov.uk/consultations

The consultation is open now.

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Hmm - the cynic in me says that what Uber really wants is more Uber PHCs. And probably no other PHCs or taxis.

The survey's not very well structured IMO but I've done it. So now I can moan about the results with a clear conscience.


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Hmm - the cynic in me says that what Uber really wants is more Uber PHCs. And probably no other PHCs or taxis.

My experience of Uber is that they really don't mind competition; they just want zillions of cars on their app.

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'Don’t blame us': Taxis hit back in Glasgow city centre row

Taxis are not to blame for a decline in Glasgow’s night-time economy, the city’s main operator has said.

A consultation on whether to lift the cap on the provision of taxis and private hire cars has just closed, with some in the night time economy, led by Glasgow Chamber of Commerce, pushing for more cars to be allowed. They have blamed a lack of availability of taxis and private hire cars as a reason why fewer people are coming to the city centre in the evenings and weekends.

The cap on taxis just now is 1420 and for private hire cars 3450. The private hire market is at the capacity limit, while there are 1227 taxis operating. Uber also claimed there are thousands of hires going unmet and wants the cap lifted to allow it to put more cars and drivers on the road.

Glasgow Taxis, however, the city’s established taxi organisation, has hit back at both claims and said lifting the cap would only see existing drivers struggle to earn a living.
In its submission to the council, it pointed to a Chamber of Commerce study that showed overall safety, cleanliness, and the availability of alternative entertainment options affected people’s decisions on visiting the city centre.

It stated: “In that survey, 80% of city centre visitors (and 82% of non-visitors) expressed a desire for improved late-night train service, and extended operating hours for trains and buses were the most cited improvement that would encourage more visits.” It added: “Taxis and Private Hire often fill the gap created by limited late-night public transport, rather than being the first-choice mode for most people leaving the city centre.”

The taxi firm pointed to wider behavioural changes that have led to fewer people visiting the city centre. It said: “The after-effects of the COVID-19 pandemic, coupled with the ongoing cost-of-living crisis, have changed many individuals’ habits. There is evidence of an emerging preference for different social patterns. For example, some people now go out earlier and return home before midnight, and a growing portion of, especially younger adults, are abstaining from alcohol-focused nightlife.”

On claims of not enough taxis, it said other factors are the cause of any long waits.

Glasgow Taxis carried out a rank survey at Gordon Street on four Saturdays this year, January 25, February 1, 15 and 22 between 21.30 and 03:00. It found, across the four nights, the rank handled between 530–570 taxis and 900–1,050 passengers over the roughly five and a half hour observation period.

The report stated: “At no time was there an absence of taxis available at or near the rank.
“Even during the periods when a passenger queue formed, there were taxis present on the rank or waiting in the feeder lane on Hope Street. The instances of passenger waiting were not due to a lack of taxis in the vicinity, but rather the speed at which those taxis could be processed and loaded.”

The report said more cabs would not have made a difference to waiting times. It found delays were due to poor traffic management around the rank, for example, clogged lanes preventing taxis from moving up, delays due to some drivers not accepting card payment - leading passengers to skip the first taxi in line - fare negotiations between drivers and groups of passengers, and occasional instances of taxi driver misconduct- like leaving the rank out-of-turn.

The conclusion reached was: “Adding more taxis beyond the numbers already in circulation would likely not have increased the number of trips provided in those hours, because the rank and road constraints were the governing factor.”

Instead of simply increasing numbers, Glasgow Taxis recommended some steps to improve the service. It wants improved ranks and enforcement of parking and traffic around ranks.
It called for mandatory car payment options and taxis to be included in wider public transport improvements

It also asked for consideration of night shift only licences to address concerns about specific times.

Dougie McPherson, chair of Glasgow Taxis, said: “We are not in step with some in the city on this issue. The struggles the night time economy are affected by a lot of other factors, like working from home, behavioural changes, people staying in the local areas, city centre parking charges, yet the blame is being laid at the door of the taxi trade.”

He said it was “the path of least resistance” to release the cap and let the provision of cars find its own level.

Mr McPherson added: “It is unsustainable to cater only for peaks.” He said Uber is the only supplier in favour of removing the cap, adding: “They fight against regulation wherever it exists.”

Drivers, he said, were struggling to make a living on the digital platform.

Mr McPherson said: “We are the only city with a cap. That doesn’t mean we are wrong to have a cap.” He concluded: “Late night trains and buses are poor and the underground goes off early. To lay this at the door of the taxis and private hires is misguided.

The council’s Licensing and Regulatory Committee will now decide whether to keep the cap on the number of vehicles that can be licensed.

https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/252 ... entre-row/


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There's also this Unite petition :-o

Or from Unite Scotland Glasgow Cab Section, more specifically.

The usual less is more stuff. Or is it more is less #-o


Keep the cap. Protect jobs. Protect Glasgow.

https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/kee ... ZSdOOiYXKw

Target: Glasgow City Council - Licensing and Regulatory Committee (Cllr Alex Wilson, Cllr Sean Ferguson, Cllr Eunis Jassemi, Cllr Hanif Raja, Cllr Jill Pidgeon, Cllr Abdul Bostani, Cllr Leòdhas Massie)

https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/kee ... ZSdOOiYXKw

We are calling on Glasgow City Council to keep the current cap of 3,450 Private Hire Vehicle (PHV) licences in place. Removing it would cause serious harm to safety, accessibility, and fairness in our city’s transport system.

There is no solid evidence to justify removing the cap. Lifting it would create a “race to the bottom” where safety standards drop, vehicle conditions suffer, and passengers are put at risk.

The cap helps maintain balance in the industry and protects jobs. It ensures that every vehicle and driver on the road meets proper standards. Without it, the market could be overwhelmed, leading to more traffic, pollution, and unregulated operators.

Glasgows Hackney Fleet proudly remains 100% accessible, meaning our disabled customers from Glasgow and beyond will always have transport they can rely on. If the number of private hire vehicles increases without limit (and most are not accessible) it will make it harder for disabled passengers to get the transport they need.

Some will argue that more vehicles are needed but we already have an under capacity in the city.

As of April 2025, over 200 Taxi cab plates were available from Glasgow City Council. There is no argument that the reality is there is a shortage of opportunity, with the need for the Council to remove barriers to enter the trade. Failure to recognise this and act accordingly will not increase vehicle numbers but do the opposite resulting in lost vehicles, lost accessibility and ultimately loss of a green ULEZ compliant service in favour for a race to the bottom lining the pockets and profitability of conglomerates and systematically dismantling an already under pressure service.

We’re also very concerned about the influence of companies like Uber. Uber has a long record of avoiding local rules, lobbying councils, and putting profits first. Uber doesn’t own cars or employ drivers - they just run an app. Their goal is to make money for shareholders, not to provide public transport, not to keep people safe.

This isn’t just about business. It’s about protecting a fair, safe, and accessible transport system for everyone in Glasgow.

So we say to the Council:

Keep the cap. Protect jobs. Protect Glasgow.


We, the undersigned, are calling on Glasgow City Council to keep the current cap of 3,450 Private Hire Vehicle (PHV) licences in place. Removing it would cause serious harm to safety, accessibility, and fairness in our city’s transport system.

There is no solid evidence to justify removing the cap. Lifting it would create a “race to the bottom” where safety standards drop, vehicle conditions suffer, and passengers are put at risk.

The cap helps maintain balance in the industry and protects jobs. It ensures that every vehicle and driver on the road meets proper standards. Without it, the market could be overwhelmed, leading to more traffic, pollution, and unregulated operators.

Glasgows Hackney Fleet proudly remains 100% accessible, meaning our disabled customers from Glasgow and beyond will always have transport they can rely on. If the number of private hire vehicles increases without limit (and most are not accessible) it will make it harder for disabled passengers to get the transport they need.

Some will argue that more vehicles are needed but we already have an under capacity in the city.

As of April 2025, over 200 Taxi cab plates were available from Glasgow City Council. There is no argument that the reality is there is a shortage of opportunity, with the need for the Council to remove barriers to enter the trade. Failure to recognise this and act accordingly will not increase vehicle numbers but do the opposite resulting in lost vehicles, lost accessibility and ultimately loss of a green ULEZ compliant service in favour for a race to the bottom lining the pockets and profitability of conglomerates and systematically dismantling an already under pressure service.

We’re also very concerned about the influence of companies like Uber. Uber has a long record of avoiding local rules, lobbying councils, and putting profits first. Uber doesn’t own cars or employ drivers - they just run an app. Their goal is to make money for shareholders, not to provide public transport, not to keep people safe.

This isn’t just about business. It’s about protecting a fair, safe, and accessible transport system for everyone in Glasgow.

So we ask you: Keep the cap. Protect jobs. Protect Glasgow.

Thank you for your interest and for supporting Unite’s campaign Ι This petition will be shared with Glasgow City Council - Licensing and Regulatory Committee c/o Clerk to the Licensing Board, City of Glasgow Licensing Board City Chambers, Glasgow, G2 1DU


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2025 5:28 pm 
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Unite Scotland Glasgow Cab Section wrote:
It ensures that every vehicle and driver on the road meets proper standards.

What a load of nonsense. I mean, we've had caps in each Fife zone for at least twenty years, yet we've apparently got the worsest and most dangerous fleet in the whole wide world :-o

As for some of the drivers :roll:

Unite Scotland Glasgow Cab Section wrote:
As of April 2025, over 200 Taxi cab plates were available from Glasgow City Council. There is no argument that the reality is there is a shortage of opportunity, with the need for the Council to remove barriers to enter the trade.

Make it make sense :-s

They want a cartel when it suits, but they also want to 'remove barriers to entry' when it suits. Not clear what that waffle means, precisely, but maybe it's all about getting more rental drivers on the HC fleet?

Who'd have expected that? :-o

Unite Scotland Glasgow Cab Section wrote:
We’re also very concerned about the influence of companies like Uber. Uber has a long record of avoiding local rules, lobbying councils, and putting profits first. Uber doesn’t own cars or employ drivers - they just run an app. Their goal is to make money for shareholders, not to provide public transport, not to keep people safe.

Councils being lobbied? Whatever next :lol:

Says the union urging people to sign a petition so they can, um, lobby the council :-o

And if Uber 'doesn't own cars or employ drivers', what does the average circuit do with regard to the vast majority of cars and drivers? ](*,)

Anyway, apart from those particular points, life's far too short to go through all of the above...


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Found that petition via this piece on Taxi-we're-not-a-cartel-but-we-want-a-cartel-Point :-o

Which takes a broader, national look at the lobby to cap PHV numbers (except, of course, presumably it's not lobbying at all :lol: ), but nothing really that regulars won't have read before, except for the stuff about the Glasgow Unite petition above...


KEEP A CAP ON IT: Glasgow taxi drivers demand cap on private hire licences remains in place

https://www.taxi-point.co.uk/post/keep- ... s-in-place


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A sly jab by GTL - counter the Chamber of Commerce argument by referring to a study published by the CoC itself.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2025 8:53 pm 
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This is on TaxiPoint:


Scottish Private Hire Association calls on Glasgow MSPs to support vital RETENTION of private hire licence cap

https://www.taxi-point.co.uk/post/scott ... ate-hire-l

The Scottish Private Hire Association (SPHA) has issued a direct appeal to Glasgow’s Members of the Scottish Parliament (MSPs), asking them to intervene in a key local policy decision on private hire and taxi licensing.

In a letter dated 30 May, the SPHA urged MSPs to support the continuation of Glasgow City Council’s current overprovision policies. These rules place limits on the number of taxi and private hire car licences issued in the city. The SPHA said the caps are essential for ensuring the long-term sustainability of the industry, protecting public safety, and maintaining fair working conditions for drivers.

At present, the Council’s policy limits the number of taxi licences to 1,420 and caps private hire car licences at 3,450. These limits reflect the number of active vehicles currently operating in the city. While taxi licences remain under the cap, the private hire licence figure has reached its maximum. The current review process could see those limits scrapped or altered, depending on the outcome of a public consultation which concluded at the end of May.

The SPHA’s appeal comes in response to that consultation, which the Council’s Licensing and Regulatory Committee launched to assess availability of vehicles, particularly during late night and peak demand hours. Unlike previous reviews, which included an independent assessment of demand, the 2025 exercise relied solely on public feedback via survey. The Committee is now preparing a report and is expected to make a decision in the coming weeks.

The SPHA has argued that any move to lift or raise the cap would negatively affect the trade, particularly smaller independent drivers. It warned that such a step could lead to market saturation, forcing drivers to compete for fewer jobs, work longer hours, and accept reduced income.

In its submission, the SPHA said many drivers are already under pressure due to increasing insurance costs, rising fuel prices and the general cost of living. It said that removing the cap would intensify these challenges, encouraging what it described as a “race to the bottom”, with declining income and deteriorating standards.

The association also raised concerns over public safety. It argued that extended working hours caused by market oversupply would contribute to driver fatigue, increasing risks for passengers and other road users. The SPHA warned that a surge in vehicle numbers could lead to higher congestion and emissions, undermining the city’s environmental objectives.

The SPHA has asked MSPs to write directly to the Council’s Licensing and Regulatory Committee members, urging them to retain the existing policies with no changes. It also encouraged MSPs to raise the matter in the Scottish Parliament, to highlight the wider implications for public safety, driver welfare, and the integrity of local transport regulation.

The association described the overprovision policy as a vital safeguard that ensures stability in the market and helps maintain professional standards. It reiterated its willingness to work with Glasgow City Council to maintain a viable and regulated private hire system that serves both drivers and the travelling public.


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Glasgow cap on private hire and taxi numbers has public support.

However, Glasgow City Council did receive written responses which show a "conflict in views". A full, independent review is being recommended.

A cap on the number of taxis and private hire cabs allowed to operate in Glasgow should be kept, local residents have said. An online survey received 4440 responses, with 92% in favour of retaining a limit on private hires and 90% supporting the cap on taxi licences. Public consultation was launched after concerns were raised about the availability of cabs, particularly late at night. Over 3,800 respondents said they had not had problems getting a taxi or private hire car in the last 12 months.

However, written responses submitted to the council, including from the city’s chamber of commerce, showed there is a “clear conflict in views”, a council report states. The chamber of commerce believes the overprovision policies, which limit the number of taxis to 1,420 and private hire cars to 3,450, are “increasingly misaligned with the city’s ambition for economic recovery, environmental leadership, and a thriving night time economy”.

Now, officials are recommending a full independent review of the policies is carried out. Councillors will be asked to support the move on Wednesday. The review would also consider competition and pricing, consumer attitudes and behaviour, the impact on the wider city centre economy, comparisons with other UK cities and the effect on operator and driver earnings.

The consultation process, which ran from March to May, followed council-commissioned reports by the Progressive Partnership and Glasgow Caledonian University Moffat Centre, which indicated the late night city centre economy continues to face a number of post-covid challenges. Both reports highlighted a lack of late-night transport options, including the availability of taxi and private hire cars, acting as a deterrent to people visiting the city centre later in the evening.

Of the 4440 consultation responses, 3592 said they were responding as members of the public, while 565 said they were taxi or private hire car drivers and indicated they were taxi or private hire car operators. Glasgow Chamber of Commerce, Glasgow Taxis, Uber, Unite the Union and council leader Susan Aitken were among those to submit written responses.

A council report states: “While responses to the online survey were very heavily in favour of retaining the existing policies and indicated that respondents did not consider that either policy had had a negative impact on the availability of taxis or private hire cars, the written responses submitted by email were more mixed.

“The responses by the Glasgow Chamber of Commerce and the City Centre Task Force pointed to concerns regarding the growing evidence of unmet transport needs, especially in the city centre and during peak demand periods.” The report continues: “It is clear from a number of the written responses submitted to the licensing section that there is a very strong belief that the current policies, particularly the policy on overprovision of private hire cars, is having a significant and detrimental impact on late night transport options, particularly in the city centre, and that this in turn has had a negative effect on the city’s hospitality and late night economy.

“However, these views cannot be reconciled with the results of the online survey, in which over 80% of the 4440 respondents believed the policies had a positive impact on the availability of both taxis and private hire cars in the city.”

As a result of this “clear conflict in views and the need for licensing policies to be evidence based”, officials have recommended the full independent review. Responses received during the consultation would be shared with the organisation commissioned to undertake the review.

Ride-hailing app Uber is in favour of removing the caps, but Unite the union and the Scottish Private Hire Association (SPHA) want them to stay. They have previously said changes could “flood the market”, hitting drivers’ earnings and forcing them to work more hours, causing safety risks.

The overprovision policies were last reviewed in 2023, when the city’s licensing committee agreed to make 255 more private hire car licences available to address demand at busy times.

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glas ... i-32347004


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Of the 4440 consultation responses, 3592 said they were responding as members of the public, while 565 said they were taxi or private hire car drivers and indicated they were taxi or private hire car operators.

Oh, really? :roll:

Can't really be bothered looking into all that. But even ignoring the particular point above, this all smacks of one gigantic charade, and kicking it into the long grass again...


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