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Don't think there's anything particularly new here, but all part of the impetus towards reform.

Anyway, it's pretty much the norm to misreprsent what the Deregulation Act was all about, but this one's even dafter than usual

So look out for that, and also the non-mention of another common phrase associated with this stuff


Burnham calls for end to out-of-town taxi licences

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9qwn0v88g1o

The mayor of Greater Manchester has called for the government to introduce new laws to end what he described as a "broken system" of out-of-area taxi licensing.

Andy Burnham said it was "unacceptable" and a risk to public safety that almost half of private hires vehicles operating in the region were licensed elsewhere.

He has called for more devolved powers to manage the trade after more than a third of taxi drivers in Greater Manchester were shown to be registered in Wolverhampton.

The government said it was aware of the concerns and was "considering options to improve the current situation", adding that passenger safety was its "top priority".

A spokesman for City of Wolverhampton Council said under current laws drivers could apply to any licensing authority and added that it was illegal to refuse an application because of where they lived.

Burnham, who has previously spoken out on the issue, said drivers registered out-of-town were a risk to public safety as local authorities had little control over their licences.

It also created "significant challenges" around enforcing the standard of vehicles and local accountability, he said.

'Undercut elsewhere'

Laws changed in 2015 as part of a deregulation drive to allow private-hire drivers to get licences from any local authority, regardless of where they live.

According to the Greater Manchester Combined Authority, as of 2024, more than 10% of all taxi licences in England were issued in Wolverhampton.

The mayor said deregulation had "opened the door" to the out-of-town problem, adding "if it wasn't Wolverhampton it would be somewhere else".

At a press conference, he called on the government to give city-regions more control over granting the licences to ensure a "safe and locally-accountable taxi system.

He said a national approach was needed or some local authorities would face a "risk of being undercut elsewhere".

Taxi drivers in Greater Manchester will be asked about proposals to clamp down on out-of-area licensing, including barriers and incentives to applying within their home region.

Burnham admitted some drivers do go elsewhere due to the speed and cost of processing applications.

"We recognise that some of this is about challenging ourselves" he said, adding that he would also ask the government to look at VAT exemptions for the trade.

City of Wolverhampton Council said the West Midlands authority did not gain financially from it licensing regime "as the fees for taxi licensing are legally ringfenced for spend only on related activities".

A Department for Transport spokesman said: "Passenger safety is our top priority, and since 2023 local authorities have been required to use a national database which shows them when a licence has been refused, suspended, or revoked on safety grounds, ensuring safer journeys.

"We are aware of the concerns about taxi and private hire vehicle licensing, including out-of-area working, and are considering options to improve the current situation."

I thought that was maybe a bit dafter at first glance than it actually is, but maybe not.

But it was certainly never anything to do with where drivers live.

But maybe if the word 'live' above had been replaced with the word 'work', then that would be more like the normal take on what's been happening

Anyway, a related point is the absence of the term 'cross-border' above

Which I've actually been meaning to ask - has anyone picked up on the difference between 'cross-border' and 'out-of-area'?

I suspect it's a DfT-inspired thing, as communicated via government ministers.

So they're saying cross-border isn't the correct term, because cars could always cross borders. I think they're saying 'out-of-area' is a more remote thing, that's been introduced via the Deregulation Act.

But I think that's bollocks as well

I mean, as per my example the other day, nothing back in the last century to stop Sefton-plated PHVs working full-time in Brighton & Hove, say, as long as B&H residents were willing to phone an office in Bootle?

As per usual, the Deregulation Act just facilitated that sort of stuff, rather than initiating it from scratch.

Seems there's actually more a campaign kicking off than the BBC's piece above conveys

And it's also partly about Labour's devolution stuff, and amalgamating powers across Greater Manchester

This is from the Greater Manchester Combined Authority's website:


Mayor of Greater Manchester calls for fix to England’s ‘broken’ taxi licensing system

https://www.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk ... ng-system/

• Mayor of Greater Manchester Andy Burnham calls for devolved powers on taxis to fix a broken national taxi system
• Figures show one local authority dominates taxi licensing across England, with nearly half of private hire vehicles working in Greater Manchester now licensed ‘out of area’
• Mayor Andy Burnham says more local accountability would drive higher taxi standards, stronger public safety and safeguard the livelihoods of drivers
• Greater Manchester kickstarts a 12-week review of its own approach to licensing, working with the taxi trade to get under the bonnet of issues affecting locally-licensed drivers

Mayor of Greater Manchester Andy Burnham says England’s ‘broken taxi system’ must be fixed to make his city-region’s fleet amongst the safest and most trusted in the country. It comes as figures show one local authority dominates licensing, with almost half of Greater Manchester’s private hire vehicles now licensed ‘out of area’.

Having brought buses under local control in January as part of the Bee Network, Mayor Burnham has now called for radical change to give England’s mayors and city-regions more control of private hire vehicles.

Launching a new campaign ‘Backing our taxis: Local. Licensed. Trusted.’ in Manchester city centre, he outlined the call for the government’s English Devolution Bill to both devolve power on taxis to Mayoral Combined Authorities and put a stop to ‘out of area’ licensing.

Such a legal change would tackle a problem affecting many regions. Flexibility in licensing laws means vehicle owners are not required to obtain a licence from the local authority where they operate - severing the link between taxi drivers and local communities, through accountability to councils.

Mayor Burnham says such local accountability is critical to ensure public safety and trust in taxis as an essential part of the transport system. He says the move would not only help drive up standards, but also better support the livelihoods of Greater Manchester’s taxi drivers through control of numbers and better incentivisation.

Aligned to what’s been done on the city-region’s Bee Network buses – where local control has driven up standards and in turn passenger numbers – the Mayor wants more control on enforcing safety, vehicle standards and accessibility conditions on taxis. He also says a clearer link between Greater Manchester Police and licensing authorities would allow for swifter investigation into incidents and collisions where a taxi is involved.

It comes as figures show that more than 11% of England’s private hire vehicles are licensed by one local authority, City of Wolverhampton Council, up from below 0.5% less than a decade ago.

In Greater Manchester, nearly half (49%) of private hire vehicles are now licensed by authorities outside of its ten councils. The city-region’s out of area figure of more than 12,000 has risen sharply from just under 7,000 in 2023.

Mayor of Greater Manchester, Andy Burnham, said:

“Taxis are a crucial part of our transport network. Just as we set out to with Bee Network buses, we want our taxi fleet to be amongst the safest and most trusted in the country. But we can’t do this with the current broken licensing system. Local leaders have zero oversight over nearly half the private hire vehicles on our streets, with no relationship with the drivers, no levers to enforce the standards we want and no control over the numbers of taxis serving our communities.

“We want to guarantee our residents that if they’re getting in a Greater Manchester taxi – no matter how they book it – it’s one that meets high standards we expect across all public transport. To do that, we need national change in the English Devolution Bill to both devolve taxi powers to city-regions and stop the ability for vehicles and drivers licensed in non-GM authorities to operate here. Such a change will give political leaders more control over measures that impact public safety, vehicle standards, emissions and accessibility.

“But this is as much about making Greater Manchester the best place to be a taxi driver – and safeguarding the livelihoods of our cab drivers – as it is about passengers. They’ve been under immense pressure over the last few years, and we want to get behind them.

“We’re today kickstarting in-depth discussions with the trade. We want to get under the bonnet of the issues that affect them, review how we can improve our own licensing and incentivise them to register here without dropping standards. We’re committed to doing what we can under the current system, but it will only be effective if it’s done in lockstep with change on out of area licensing at a national level.”

As well as greater devolution on the issue, the ‘Backing our taxis’ campaign also calls on the government to support drivers to make the switch to greener, more accessible vehicles easier, with recommendations to extend the VAT exemption to new wheelchair accessible taxis; extend the national Plug-In Taxi Grant for electric vehicles; and reduce the rate of VAT on public electric vehicle charging.

Mayor Burnham has also announced a review of Greater Manchester’s current approach to licensing, supported by a 12-week period of engagement with the taxi trade. It was kick-started today (16 April) with a roundtable with key trade representatives. The period will involve online questionnaires, in-person surveys with drivers and in-depth interviews with both trade representatives and those involved in local licensing.

Sara Todd, Chief Executive of Trafford MBC and Greater Manchester Chief Officer lead on taxis and private hire, will lead the review, which will be undertaken by ARUP/AECOM. A report with recommendations on the longer-term visions for taxis and licensing will be considered by the Greater Manchester Combined Authority in Autumn 2025.

The review will get under the bonnet of the drivers’ experiences with licensing in Greater Manchester and explore how, under the current system, drivers could be encouraged and incentivised to license in the city-region. This will include among other things discussions on process efficiency, standards, financial incentives, and license conditions, such as requirements for vehicles to be serviced at specific garages.

Leader of Bury Council and Clean Air lead for Greater Manchester, Cllr Eamonn O’Brien, said:

“The importance of taxi and private hire vehicles cannot be underestimated in keeping people across Greater Manchester moving day in, day out.

“They support our visitor and night-time economy by providing door-to-door transport for thousands of residents and workers and play a role in helping improve air quality on the city-region's roads.

“Just like the Bee Network, we want to have the right standards in place to encourage drivers to license here in Greater Manchester. But we understand the pressure being faced by drivers, and that’s why we want to work with the trade to find out how we can best ensure all journeys are safe and reliable for passengers. We also want to provide the right support and time to help them transition to cleaner vehicles, helping deliver a cleaner, greener city-region.”

Earlier this year, Greater Manchester agreed an investment-led Clean Air Plan with government to tackle air quality and cut emissions without the need for a charging zone. The 12-week discussions with the taxi trade will include how best to allocate an £8 million fund for drivers of Hackneys carriages (or black cabs), which formed part of the Clean Air Plan deal. Greater Manchester will also explore how private hire vehicles can also be supported to make the switch to modern vehicles, potentially through subsidised, low interest loans.

It has also been confirmed that leaders of Greater Manchester’s ten local authorities have endorsed proposals to give drivers more time to upgrade their vehicles, extending the emission compliance date from the end of 2025 to at least 31 December 2026*. Whilst the decision will be down to individual licensing committees to consider and agree proposals, leaders have backed the extension, as well as an exemption for vehicles until the maximum age limit (as part of existing licence agreements with individual drivers).

Article Published: 16/04/2025 17:54 PM

I wish him luck but he reminds me of king [edited by admin] !

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