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Author:  StuartW [ Tue Aug 05, 2025 4:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Coventry cllr wants designated rank spaces for rear-loaders

...or something like that...

But I fail to see the logic here [-(

It seems to go something like: "Some drivers are refusing wheelchairs on the basis of an exemption certificate, which isn't displayed. But this will be sorted by removing the London Conditions of Fitness, because the turning circle is no longer required. And will be further rectified by allowing rear-loading WAVS, and providing designated rank spaces for them."

No, me neither :-s

I mean, for a start there must be an abundance of rank space in Coventry if they can fanny about like what the councillor is proposing here. But I suspect there isn't :?

And, in terms of how the rank works in terms of dynamics and the like, what she's basically proposing is two separate, new ranks at each existing rank, because if you had designated spaces for rear-loaders then they wouldn't be able to move up with the other cars, thus in effect it would mean two separate ranks and queues.

And to that extent would probably deter drivers from buying rear-loaders, unless they were given preference at a particular location. And which would then open up a whole can of other worms...

It simply wouldn't work. And typical of desk/commitee-based thinking rather than the real world [-X

Send her to Coventry :lol:


Coventry councillor calls for wheelchair-friendly taxi ranks

https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/ ... s-32204025

A designated space on the city's ranks for adapted vehicles would benefit both drivers and passengers

A Coventry councillor has called for designated spaces to be allocated at taxi ranks across the city for vehicles able to take wheelchairs.

Cllr Christine Thomas, who chairs the Disability Equality Action Partnership, said the extra space would help drivers of vehicles fitted with rear ramps and would also benefit taxi users.

Speaking at today’s (Tuesday) Coventry City Council licensing and regulatory committee, she praised the work being done by officers.

She said: “I’m really pleased to see that the officers are trying to increase the number of vehicles that are suitable for people with disabilities – we seem to have a problem at the moment with a lot of drivers refusing to take wheelchairs.

"I was made aware the other day of a gentleman in a wheelchair at a rank and the first four taxis said they all had exemption certificates, but not all had a sticker in the window.”

Her comments followed a report by Debbie Cahalin-Heath, the council’s strategic manager for regulation and communities, which outlined changes to the licensing policy for taxis, including the removal of the London Conditions of Fitness, which restricts the type of vehicle that can be used in Coventry.

Increasing the variety of vehicles available will mean more cars will be wheelchair accessible.

Cllr Thomas added: “I think the removal of this is absolutely brilliant.

"We all know why it was there – the vehicle had to be able to turn around in the space outside the Savoy Hotel. We have moved on.

“One thing you might want to look at in the future is having a space on the ranks for a vehicle that is specifically wheelchair accessible, because we have so many drivers who are saying they are not and it can be quite humiliating for a person with a disability who is constantly being told by drivers that they cannot take them.

"If we get vehicles like those currently operating in Spain where the back of the vehicle opens and a ramp comes out, then those vehicles will need extra space, and when the taxis stack up in the ranks, they tend to be closer together.”

Councillors were told that, while it was something that could be looked into, the council’s legal experts might need to be consulted in case it was seen as being discriminatory.

The updated policy, which also included changes to emissions rules and the permitted age of vehicles, was approved by councillors and will now go before the council’s cabinet later this month.

Author:  StuartW [ Tue Aug 05, 2025 4:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coventry cllr wants designated rank spaces for rear-load

Quote:
Coventry councillor calls for wheelchair-friendly taxi ranks

https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/ ... s-32204025

A designated space on the city's ranks for adapted vehicles would benefit both drivers and passengers

A Coventry councillor has called for designated spaces to be allocated at taxi ranks across the city for vehicles able to take wheelchairs.

I mean, even the headline, strapline and first line proper of the article don't make sense - they make it sound like the current fleet can't take wheelchairs :-s

Author:  StuartW [ Tue Aug 05, 2025 4:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coventry cllr wants designated rank spaces for rear-load

Daftie councillor wrote:
“One thing you might want to look at in the future is having a space on the ranks for a vehicle that is specifically wheelchair accessible, because we have so many drivers who are saying they are not and it can be quite humiliating for a person with a disability who is constantly being told by drivers that they cannot take them."

And even if this was feasible in terms of practicality and available space, I somehow don't think it would encourage drivers to run WAVs, if they could get away without running them and avoiding those designated WAV spaces :-o

And, of course, what she means by 'specifically wheelchair accessible' must be in relation to the exemption certificate, because all the cars will already be WAVs, presumably.

I'd guess that the real problem is actually relating to exemption certificates and abuse of the system, and it's more about enforcement than WAVs per se.

Unless, of course, they're handing out exemption certificates like sweeties, which I doubt :roll:

Author:  Sussex [ Tue Aug 05, 2025 6:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coventry cllr wants designated rank spaces for rear-load

Quote:
And, in terms of how the rank works in terms of dynamics and the like, what she's basically proposing is two separate, new ranks at each existing rank, because if you had designated spaces for rear-loaders then they wouldn't be able to move up with the other cars, thus in effect it would mean two separate ranks and queues.

What a complete load of old fanny.

The vast majority of councils allow rear loaders; do they have the problems outlined above? Do they f***?

What happens there is that drivers move forward to allow the WAV to load, as happens in all areas that have a mixed saloon/WAV hackney fleet.

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