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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 3:51 pm 
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This piece is a bit scattergun :-o

First it's Telford & Wrekin, then it's Shropshire Council and South Staffs Council, then the usual Wolves stuff, then on to the Wolves enforcement pilot scheme in Milton Keynes :-s

And certainly potentially confusing, particularly for someone who doesn't know how it all works, like the average reader of the Shropshire Star.

But it's maybe all relevant to what I said yesterday about the low vehicle number actually licensed in Telford & Wrekin - as well as cars from Wolverhampton, safe to assume from this that they also have cross border cars from Shropshire and South Staffs working there...


Officials hoping to spread power swapping agreements over taxi licensing

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/loc ... licensing/

Officers at Telford & Wrekin Council have approached two other licensing authorities over sharing powers to inspect and suspend unsafe taxis and minicabs.

Councillors have now officially returned the favour to Wolverhampton Council which had earlier this month given Telford and Wrekin officials the right to check vehicles working in the borough that are licensed by Wolverhampton.

There are hundreds of drivers who are licensed by Wolverhampton but who live in Telford. Until now officials in Telford did not have the right to inspect and, if necessary, suspend those drivers when they were working in the borough.

A meeting of the regulatory committee on Monday (October 20, 2025) was told that Telford officials have approached Shropshire Council and South Staffordshire Council about extending the reciprocal enforcement power arrangement.

Councillor Karen Tomlinson (Liberal Democrats, Shawbirch & Dothill) said she had “never agreed” with the councils being able to license vehicles from anywhere in the country.

But, she asked, “who is going to pay for the checks?”

Licensing officials have to be paid for from the money that comes in, and it is ring-fenced under current arrangements.

Richard Phillips, the council’s service delivery manager for registrars, public protection, legal and democracy, said he believed that licensing officers could make more checks when they are “out and about”.

“It is not a great burden,” he said.

And the council could rely on the other councils to act in the interests of public safety once Telford officials had told them of problems.

But he revealed that Telford & Wrekin Council and other councils are responding to a Government consultation now which is “about paying for it” if the idea spreads.

“Lots of authorities will make this point to the Government,” he said.

“It is progress, we are hoping that it is a step in the right direction,” he added.

There are some 320 councils with the power to license vehicles across the country, he said.

Councillor Tomlinson said: “It is great that we are taking these baby steps. I’m really pleased that it is on the agenda.”

Councillor Rachael Tyrrell (Conservative, Priorslee) said that she had used an “extremely professional” Uber cab in Manchester that had been licensed in Wolverhampton.

“He told me that it was quicker to get a licence in Wolverhampton.”

Mr Phillips replied by giving a “shameless plug” and promising would-be drivers choosing to be licensed in Telford that “we will process your licence quickly and efficiently”.

The committee was told that the more licences that a council approves the cheaper it becomes. Cost differences of £300 would make a difference to would-be drivers.

A meeting of Wolverhampton Council’s own regulatory committee earlier in October was told that it “licenses more private hire vehicles and drivers than any other council in the UK”.

“This is because of its work, beginning in 2015, to digitise its application form and streamline processes to ensure that its licensed trade did not leave Wolverhampton to license with another authority with lower standards.”

That meeting on October 1 was told that 96 per cent of drivers licensed by Wolverhampton live outside the city.

That council has also recently delegated authority to 10 other councils in addition to Telford after hearing of the success of a scheme in Milton Keynes.

Some 171 private hire drivers and 105 private hire vehicle proprietors licensed by Wolverhampton Council live in Milton Keynes.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 3:53 pm 
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Councillor Karen Tomlinson (Liberal Democrats, Shawbirch & Dothill) said she had “never agreed” with the councils being able to license vehicles from anywhere in the country.

I don't really think it's up to you :-s

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There are some 320 councils with the power to license vehicles across the country, he said.

Not sure where that figure comes from - think it's about 263 in England (and Wales?), so the 320 must include Scotland, but seems odd to include that in view of the totally different legislation etc.

There are 341 entries on the PHTM tariff table, but that includes the likes of several zones in South Lanarkshire Council in Scotland, which seems to require four different tariffs in different zones? :-s

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But he revealed that Telford & Wrekin Council and other councils are responding to a Government consultation now which is “about paying for it” if the idea spreads.

“Lots of authorities will make this point to the Government,” he said.

Which consultation is that, precisely?

Not sure there's a specific consultation on the trade - maybe that's the one about the devolution and transport authorties and the like? :?

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Mr Phillips replied by giving a “shameless plug” and promising would-be drivers choosing to be licensed in Telford that “we will process your licence quickly and efficiently”.

The committee was told that the more licences that a council approves the cheaper it becomes. Cost differences of £300 would make a difference to would-be drivers.

'Shameless plug' about licensing process and efficiency?

Reminds me of what Wolves has been doing for years on a huge and country-wide scale. But, of course, they've never done anything to encourage applications [-X


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 3:55 pm 
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Councillors have now officially returned the favour to Wolverhampton Council which had earlier this month given Telford and Wrekin officials the right to check vehicles working in the borough that are licensed by Wolverhampton.

So that means Wolverhampton LOs now have the power to check Telford cars working in Wolverhampton?

Makes it all sound like some kind of equal arrangement, as opposed to Wolves effectively calling the shots on it all. Oh, my sides :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 11:07 pm 
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I had my tyres checked by a Wolverhampton enforcement officer here in Chester yesterday. They were doing a joint operation along with CWAC enforcement and the police.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2025 10:37 am 
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For a Council to get these reciprocol arrangements does it cost them any money?


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grandad wrote:
For a Council to get these reciprocol arrangements does it cost them any money?

No. Each council covers their own costs.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2025 8:31 pm 
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But, she asked, “who is going to pay for the checks?”

A very good question. =D>

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