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Author:  StuartW [ Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Wolves-badged PHD working in Lincs slams variable standards

Nothing particularly new here, and just the more recent variation to include the stuff going on at the Westminster level, and the point about the proposed 70 authorities still meaning significant variation in standards. Presumably.

But a good explanation of the triple-lock and the right-to-roam rule from Lincoln Council here, and I'm sure they've been one of the councils to have covered all the bases in the past.

And the usual enforcement boilerplate from Wolverhampton. But a slight variation to take account of the Westminster consultation etc.

But, I mean, a Wolves-badged driver complaining about standards not being tough enough? :roll:


Taxi safety reforms not tough enough, says driver

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gllgerggno

A private hire driver who lives and works in Grantham but is registered in Wolverhampton says plans to reform taxi licensing do not go far enough.

The government has launched a consultation on tackling issues such as "out of area working" – when drivers are licensed by one authority, but work in another – amid concerns about the safety of passengers.

Under the proposals, the number of licensing authorities would be reduced from 263 to 70.

But driver Adam Mason said only a single licensing body would ensure an improvement in standards across the industry. He added: "As soon as you've got 70 new licensing departments, you'll have 70 slightly different interpretations of the regulations."

Mason said he decided to get his licence from City of Wolverhampton Council because the process was quicker and easier, as he needed to start working quickly.

Figures showed that in the year to March 2024, up to 96% of licences issued by Wolverhampton – a total of 20,375 – were for drivers living outside the city.

According to the government's consultation, external, "out of area" licensing means an authority would not generally be able to take action against a driver "where unsafe activity is identified" unless it had issued the licence.

Under that system if a concern is raised about a driver working in Lincolnshire, but who is registered in Wolverhampton, the Lincolnshire authority has to ask Wolverhampton to consider whether to suspend or revoke the licence.

Ragan Crow, the manager at Direct Cars in Lincoln, said too many drivers were working out of area and passengers with a concern were not always sure who to go to.

"They're coming from Wolverhampton, Knowsley, Birmingham, Northampton, everywhere," she said.

"If they do something wrong in our city, there's nothing our council can do about that.

"You don't know who the drivers are. If a licensing officer goes past one of our cars, he knows who he's licensed that car to."

Driver James Redmond said if a passenger wanted to complain about him, "they can either phone Ragan, or they can phone the council".

But he added: "If they wanted to complain about them [an out of area driver], who do they phone?"

Introducing the consultation, local transport minister Lilian Greenwood said the change could help to reduce out of area working and "better match enforcement resources".

'Inconsistent standards'

While most drivers were "law-abiding and simply seeking efficient entry into the sector", Greenwood said out-of-area working "complicates enforcement and raises concerns about inconsistent licensing standards across local authorities".

She added: "Robust standards in safety must be applied by all licensing authorities."

City of Lincoln Council said: "Private hire operators dispatch drivers and vehicles in accordance with the triple licence rule, which means the operator, vehicle and driver must all be properly licensed by the same licensing authority.

"All private hire vehicles can pursue their trade in pre-booked journeys without geographical restriction.

"As a result, provided the conditions of the triple licence rule are met, licensed drivers can be dispatched across the country while they are outside their licensing area. This is a national regulation set by the UK government."

A City of Wolverhampton Council spokesperson said: "We take our licensing responsibilities very seriously and our officers work proactively across the country, wherever our drivers operate, carrying out regular operations with partners to protect the public and ensure they travel in safety.

"We are aware of the consultation launched by the Department for Transport. The council will of course consider this very carefully and respond to the consultation when we have had time to fully understand the implications."

Author:  StuartW [ Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Wolves-badged PHD working in Lincs slams variable standa

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Driver James Redmond said if a passenger wanted to complain about him, "they can either phone Ragan, or they can phone the council".

But he added: "If they wanted to complain about them [an out of area driver], who do they phone?"

Maybe they could try phoning the out-of-area operator's equivalent to Ragan?

You know, the operator that the complainant booked the car with? :-s

Author:  StuartW [ Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Wolves-badged PHD working in Lincs slams variable standa

And I see Knowsley mentioned in the cross-border list again. What's the attraction there, precisely?

Didn't the council there try to introduce a PHV intended use policy a few years ago, but it was successfully challenged in the courts? But whatever the particularly attraction was back then, the council have presumably done little or nothing to stop it. (Like, for example, Wolverhampton officials travelling across the country so that prospective drivers didn't have to go there, which they've now stopped. To be fair to Knowsely, like Wolves they may have tried to stop whatever was attracting so many cross-border applicants. But, in a way, once the genie is out of the bottle, maybe a bit difficult to get it back in...)

Author:  Sussex [ Wed Jan 28, 2026 7:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Wolves-badged PHD working in Lincs slams variable standa

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but it was successfully challenged in the courts?

Was that the council that wanted to add the intended policy to PH drivers rather than PH vehicles?

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