This is some of the stuff from the P&J's live update page.
And this isn't all of it - mainly stuff from some of the speeches made. The whole charade went on for several hours, complete with lunch break
There's also stuff about who was present at particular times during the meeting, who was coming and going, and other procedural stuff etc. And also stuff about questions put to councillors as regard whether they intend to resign etc. But that's summarised in the section right at the end below.
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/ne ... ncil-live/Mostly virtue-signalling and high dudgeon, but some interesting comments accusing others of making the whole thing political and about settling old scores about other things etc
What is a vote of no confidence? ‘Unprecedented’ measure explainedOn August 4, the three most senior councillors in the chambers, convener Bill Lobban, leader Raymond Bremner and opposition leader Alasdair Christie, signed the paperwork to proceed with a motion of no confidence against the five councillors.
But what is a no confidence vote? This is a proposal brought forward by members to express a lack of trust in specific councillors.
It acts as a strong expression of disapproval, however, it does not legally force councillors to resign or remove them from office.
When asked if it was back in August, Mr Lobban said: “That’s a matter for the public.”
He added: “When it comes to the elections in May the public will make their views known, and loudly I would imagine.”
Council leader Mr Bremner also explained the council was taking “unprecedented” action against the five remaining councillors to show how seriously it was taking the matter.
He said: “The decisions and the actions and the follow up that the council has taken, and is continuing, reflects exactly how we feel as three leaders of the council.
“We need to show the public that what happened wasn’t acceptable.
“We need to now reflect on that and we need to restore that confidence.”
Bill Lobban speaks to council chamberFirst to speak is convener Bill Lobban, who lets the room know why the motion has been brought to consideration by council leaders.
He said: “(The decision) can only be described as a catastrophic failure of judgement.
“It has been a terrifying ordeal which has brought shame upon this council.
“When an 18-year-old is getting into a taxi, the people around her trust she is making the safe choice.
“They trust the person behind the wheel, who has been deemed fit and proper.
“The councillors named in this motion fundamentally failed that trust.
“This is not a simple mistake, but instead a profound lapse in moral judgement.
“They have demonstrated a total lack of regard for the safety of the public and sent a stark message to the women of the Highlands that their safety is not priority.
“It showcased staggering complacency, followed by various pathetic excuses, legal implications and tried to shift blame to others.
“The massive public backlash has been entirely justified.
“As convener, I have lost faith in there members’ ability to act in a competent manner.
“People in the Highlands have also lost faith in these members’ ability.
“The only way to rebuild trust which has been shattered is to hold those members accountable.”
Council leader Bremner backs vote of no confidenceCouncil leader Raymond Bremner has backed what Bill Lobban has said, saying councillors now have a chance “to do the wrong thing”.
He said: “I am fully aligned with comments above. Senior leadership believe this was necessary and the correct course of action.
“Members of our community have been terribly affected by the committee.
“As a council, the responsibility is on us to look after those who should have been protected by our processes.
“Going forward, we can never fail members of our community in such a way again.
“It is difficult to see how some members came to the decision that day.
“Those who considered David Brown was fit and proper to hold a taxi operator license, they were wrong.”
Women in Licensing Committee say decision was ‘indefensible’Two of the four women in the licensing committee who voted against David Brown to keep his taxi operator’s licence have made their position clear on today’s debate.
Councillors Emma Knox and Lyndsey Johnston insisted the decision was about David Brown being a “fit and proper person”, which clearly, he was not.
Emma Knox said the decision was “indefensible”.
She said: “Sometimes we make mistakes as councillors, but the decision made about David Brown was indefensible.
“We had to decide whether a man convicted of raping a female passenger in his taxi was a fit and proper person to operate a taxi business.”
“They tried to blame the council officials for not supplying enough information and even blamed the public for holding them into account.
She added: Councillor Stewart did not resign from the committee until a few weeks ago and it is absolutely astonishing that Chris Birt has not stepped aside from the committee.
Lyndsey Johnston said: “I was in that licensing committee on June 23. I heard the same evidence and the police objection. I believe there was a misunderstanding of what it means someone is a fit and proper person.”
First support for councillors facing vote of no confidenceAfter several members spoke in support of the motion, some councillors showed support for the questioned five.
Councillor Sinclair Coghill, who is part of Highland Alliance, co-lead by Duncan MacPherson, said: “I was not in the meeting, I have not seen the evidence, so can not come to a conclusion.”
He was followed by fellow Highland Alliance member Richard Cross, who also said he will not be backing the “unpopular” decision.
Councillor Chris Ballance staggered to hear decision is “unpopular”, a lot inside of the chambers tap their table in support
He said: “The decision is wrong, ethically wrong, morally wrong. I am staggered to hear it described in that way.”
Councillor John Grafton says he made decision ‘to protect individuals’Councillor John Grafton is one of the five councillors under fire to speak, defending his decision to approve the operator’s licence.
He said: “The decision I made on the day was not about the taxi driver being a fit and proper person. That may be wrong, I admit that.
“But the decision I made was made on the basis of protecting the public and individuals.
“It’s sad people seem to put the point about giving a rapist a licence, we did not do that.”
Councillor Grafton also proposed the motion is “not fair or reasonable”, as he expects any person voting against the motion will leave them open to criticism.
Chris Birt: ‘We did please a few people’Councillor Birt, who was one of the five councillors who voted to allow Brown to keep his taxi operator’s licence, has defended himself before convener Bill Lobban gave him advice he may be verging on breaking confidentiality.
The former SNP councillor asked for his decision on the day to be “respected”.
Councillor Birt said: “At no time did I state Mr Brown was a fit and proper person. It is a general belief all members of the council seek to take decisions in the best interest of the Highland population.
“I believe I was acting in that way. I respect members who voted differently, just as I expect mine to be respected.
“Some women emailed me to thank me for allowing someone to support herself financially.
“Even if we are deemed to be wrong, we did please a few people.”
Councillor Sinclair calls out Highland Alliance members supporting Duncan MacPhersonCouncillor Glynis Campbell Sinclair is the former chairperson of Inverness Women’s Aid.
She said: “I speak as someone with profound and deep disappointment.
“We must remember the core of this matter. A young girl has been a victim, she has endured an unimaginable trauma.
“Our first duty should have been to protect and support her.
“Instead, six male members voted to allow a convicted rapist to retain his taxi operator’s licence.
“Highland Alliance members standing by Duncan MacPherson sends a devastating message to a young girl and all victims of sexual assault.
“It tells them political survival matters more than them.”
‘You should be gone from this chamber’Campbell Sinclair’s intervention was followed by other members showing strong support for the motion of no confidence.
Councillor David Fraser told all five councillors who voted for Brown to keep his licence “you should be gone from this chamber” and never come back through this door.
Meanwhile, councillor Andrew Mackintosh labelled their decision as “unacceptable”.
He said: “You have to accept the consequences of your conduct.
“Your actions were not responsible.”
‘My daughters will be utterly horrified’Councillor Morven Reid has given a powerful and emotional speech as she was almost reduced to tears.
She said: “I am astonished. In the best case scenario, these members failed to understand their remit.
“In the worst case, these members knew their remit, went against Police Scotland advice and decided convicted rapist David Brown was a fit and proper person to hold a taxi operator’s licence.
“I will be showing my teenage daughters this meeting later, who were disgusted by the original decision. They will be utterly horrified to hear what has been said in defence of that decision.”
MSP is ‘beyond anger’Andrew Baxter, MSP for Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch, said he is ‘beyond anger’ today.
He said: “I have seen things in council which have angered me in the past.
“I am beyond anger today, I am astounded.
“To hear colleagues suggest we are backing this motion of no confidence to settle old scores is beyond belief.
“I had the greatest respect for those councillors, but they have lost it over the past few months because of their continued self-justification on the decision they made.
“Today, other councillors in the chamber have also lost my respect by attempting to deflect what has happened to suggest others are to blame by leaking the information.
“I believe they had a public duty to do so.”
Mr Baxter also claims a councillor contacted him yesterday to accuse those voting in favour of the motion of party politics.
He added: “I am saddened I received a WhatsApp message from a councillor suggesting those voting in favour of the vote were doing so on party politics grounds, were whipped by parties or due to public pressure.
‘Someone ignored council procedures by leaking it to the press’Highland Alliance Duncan Macdonald has shown strong support for his fellow colleague Duncan Macpherson and the other male councillors who voted to allow Brown to keep his licence.
He said that even though they should have focused on whether Brown was a “fit and proper person”, he has no intention to “condemn anyone”.
He said: “Unfortunately, someone ignored council procedures by leaking it to the press.
“We’ve never heard any of the representations that were made on 23 June.
“We don’t know what legal advice was given to the committee. We know very little. There have been a lot of speculation.”
Duncan Macpherson says ‘heinous crime’ was at ‘forefront’ of his decisionCouncillor Duncan Macpherson gave a long speech to defend his actions.
He started by highlighting how the “democratic decision was leaked to the press”.
He added that although the press reports were “not untruthful”, some of them were “selective”.
Macpherson said: “The heinous crime was at the forefront of my thoughts.
“We made the decision based on the legal information we had at the time.”
He also highlighted the “complexity” of the decision.
Duncan MacPherson said it was with “regret” he submitted his resignation to the license committee, before explaining his decision.
He said: “A democratic decision was leaked to the press and generated significant criticism.
“While I don’t believe the press to be untruthful, reporting was selective.
“My own decision has been misunderstood and misrepresented.
“The devastating impact on the victim of the heinous crime was at the forefront of my thoughts.
“My rationale was based on the information, statutory obligations and legal powers available to the committee at the time.
“While reasonable people may disagree with my outcome, my decision was made honestly, consciously, and what I believe protected the safety of the public.
“You will be judging me today without all the facts and context. I cannot fairly defend my decision, I am in an impossible position.
“I am not sure what the motion is to achieve, councillors Christie and Bremner and convener Lobban will have their own motives, you can decide what they are.”
56 of 67 councillors vote for the motion – All five facing no confidence vote disagree56 of the 67 councillors present at today’s debate, both in person and online, have agreed they have “NO CONFIDENCE” in John Grafton, Ruraidh Stewart, Duncan Macpherson, Chris Birt and Sean Kennedy.
Five councillors abstained while six members, including all five facing the vote of no confidence, disagreed.
Sean Kennedy, John Grafton, Ruraidh Stewart, Duncan Macpherson, Chris Birt all voted against the motion.
Conservative councillor Liz Saggers also disagreed with the motion.
What happens next?Now the vote of no confidence has been overwhelmingly backed, what happens next?
The vote is a political statement which acts to express a lack of trust in the five councillors.
However, it does not legally force councillors to resign or remove them from office.
Duncan MacPherson and Chris Birt have already confirmed they will not be resigning.
A Highland Council spokesperson said: “”A vote of no confidence is a political statement, and council officers have no involvement.”
However, during today’s debate, members highlighted the public will have their say in the local May 2027 election.
Convener Bill Lobban previously said: “When it comes to the elections in May the public will make their views known, and loudly I would imagine.”
A summary of todayThat’s all from Highland Council regarding the vote of no confidence on the five men involved in the taxi rapist scandal.
56 of 67 councillors voted in favour of the no confidence motion, which has added pressure on Sean Kennedy, John Grafton, Duncan MacPherson, Chris Birt and Ruraidh Stewart to resign.
It comes following the five men and already-resigned Willie Mackay voting in favour of convicted rapist David Brown keeping his taxi operator’s licence.
Councillors MacPherson and Birt have confirmed they will NOT be resigning despite the vote against them.
Councillor Grafton confirmed he will consider resigning as one of several potential outcomes.
Highland Council leader Raymond Bremner said he believes the five men need to reflect on what their colleagues have said and was “shocked” by the attempts to deflect blame.
The P&J has now concluded its live coverage of today’s meeting.