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 Post subject: Section 75(1)(b) debated
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:35 pm 
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Well that's it, rather a painless process. The rest should be a formality.


The bill now goes to the House of Lords for their consideration and within a very short time it will become law. There was no opposition in the commons to the amendments, which are listed as clause six and seven. The Lords are unlikely to change clause 7 which is the one we campaigned for but they might have issue with clause six, which is the additional power given to licensing authorities to suspend licenses.

I don't agree with that particular clause because we all know that councillors are not the brightest individuals on the planet, they are easily manipulated and in most cases act like sheep.

There was a reference in this debate by the opposition shadow Minister who stated Limousines had increased from 3,000 in 2003 to over 11,000 in 2006. This shows the proliferation and popularity of these types of vehicles.

The bottom line is that we can all rest assured that section 75 1 B has now been well and truly dusted and a big thank you goes out to all those on this site and elsewhere who participated in its demise.

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captain cab wrote:
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmhansrd/cm061009/debtext/61009-0008.htm#06100913000001

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Well that's it, rather a painless process. The rest should be a formality.


The bill now goes to the House of Lords for their consideration and within a very short time it will become law. There was no opposition in the commons to the amendments, which are listed as clause six and seven. The Lords are unlikely to change clause 7 which is the one we campaigned for but they might have issue with clause six, which is the additional power given to licensing authorities to suspend licenses.

I don't agree with that particular clause because we all know that councillors are not the brightest individuals on the planet, they are easily manipulated and in most cases act like sheep.

There was a reference in this debate by the opposition shadow Minister who stated Limousines had increased from 3,000 in 2003 to over 11,000 in 2006. This shows the proliferation and popularity of these types of vehicles.

The bottom line is that we can all rest assured that section 75 1 B has now been well and truly dusted and a big thank you goes out to all those on this site and elsewhere who participated in its demise.

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Totally agree =D>

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Thought this was a bit iffy though;

Derek Conway (Old Bexley and Sidcup) (Con): I am sorry to interrupt the Minister so early in his speech. He will know that there is concern among private operators who provide special-needs transport because they are subject to enhanced Criminal Records Bureau checks, and many are locked into local authority contracts until 2010. Operators in my constituency want to know when the Minister intends the enhanced protection regulations to come into force, because owing to the local authority contracts they are already subject to the checks. I gather that there may be some room for manoeuvre over when the imposition will actually occur. If the Minister could provide any guidance, those operators would be very grateful.

I mean, the drivers may be CRB'd but who checks the vehicles?

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Thought this was a bit iffy though;

Derek Conway (Old Bexley and Sidcup) (Con): I am sorry to interrupt the Minister so early in his speech. He will know that there is concern among private operators who provide special-needs transport because they are subject to enhanced Criminal Records Bureau checks, and many are locked into local authority contracts until 2010. Operators in my constituency want to know when the Minister intends the enhanced protection regulations to come into force, because owing to the local authority contracts they are already subject to the checks. I gather that there may be some room for manoeuvre over when the imposition will actually occur. If the Minister could provide any guidance, those operators would be very grateful.

I mean, the drivers may be CRB'd but who checks the vehicles?

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No doubt he had been lobied by those who want to retain the clause. If the people he represents already undertake CRB checks then he should have no qualms about making them mandatory under a licensing regime.

Its done and dusted now because I can't see the Lord messing around with it.

I'm sure all those unlicensed hire and reward outfits who wanted to remain unlicensed will remember October 9 2006 for a long time to come.

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so it seems that local authority idiots can no stop honest law abiding drivers from earning a living by banning them from the roads when they have no reason to.

This is not a good move but then again we are ruled by loony leftist power crazed government and councils.

I for one will disregard any order by a council official to stop working if they decide to take my licence of me for no reason. They're basically a waste of space and tax payers money.

I'll happily see any of them in court under human rights act.

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Everyone will be pleased to know that the Road Safety Bill got royal accent today. \:D/

God save the Queen. :D

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well done all concerned

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ffs dont let terry hear you say that ](*,)

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Everyone will be pleased to know that the Road Safety Bill got royal accent today. \:D/



Excuse me for being pedantic, but it's the royal 'assent', ie assent as in giving permission.

The royal 'accent' is what's called the Queen's English. :lol:

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By the way, does anyone know when the repeal of the exemption will take effect?

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Excuse me for being pedantic, but it's the royal 'assent', ie assent as in giving permission.

Are you being pedantic or semantic? :wink:

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By the way, does anyone know when the repeal of the exemption will take effect?

I think the new supa dupa act, unless you are an iffy vehicle or use your mobile when driving, will be up in full on http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2006a.htm soon, along with the guidance and all that fancy stuff. :D

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I question the phase supa dupa act. :)

I konw all these taxi drivers arethinking to themselves great know all these 7 day exemption vehicles are off the road I'm going to make lots of money.

What's going to happen when they suddenly find themselves in no different position than before because it's not such a big slice of the makret that they thought it was. Taxi drivers are great for blaming everyone else when their business goes down. they think they can buy a vehicle and sit at the side of the road and expect the world to come running to them to give them money.

What's wrong with marketing and going out and getting business!!! Instead of looking for excuses for why they are quiet.

And I don't have an iffy car! Yes I set up in april with a £300 car and had to sell my laptop to get the deposit together for the insurance but I know have a brand new £15,000 car and a 50% share in a £32,000 merc. I got to this stage by getting out there and selling the service i offer not blaming everything else for lack of business.

Oh yes the cost of this removal of 7 day exemption (and the minute if any gain in business)? The loss of being able to carry on in your trade (and therefore your business) and provide food and housing for your children while you appeal against a wrong decision.

Some trade off!!!

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I question the phase supa dupa act. :) I konw all these taxi drivers arethinking to themselves great know all these 7 day exemption vehicles are off the road I'm going to make lots of money.


Nothing changes for Taxi drivers and the only change for anyone presently operating without a license, is that they will have to purchase one from now on. I don't see how this will impact financially on any current business model?

Is it really a great evil?

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Nothing changes for Taxi drivers and the only change for anyone presently operating without a license, is that they will have to purchase one from now on. I don't see how this will impact financially on any current business model?

Is it really a great evil?

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It will make the playing field level, it will ensure people formerly operating by way of the loophole either leave or operate as properly licensed, it will ensure the public have vehicles and drivers who are checked and vetted.

I agree with JD :shock:

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