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Heard a rumour that some members had got the hump that their dues were going towards CTN running costs.

And the editorial board were self-appointed, including a certain Mr Hedges.

www.certoffice.org/Decisions/pdf/King%2 ... 202006.doc

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IDFIMH

This is quite remarkable. I can see a can of worms has been opened and I suspect further revelations will be forthcoming once these accounts have been scrutinised. I can also see changes coming that will have the effect of regulating this non elected committee.

From my point of view it also highlights how some unions and associations have a distinct phobia about revealing membership figures. It should be interesting to see what happens over this issue.

Regards

JD

On the issue of revealing membership numbers ....................... can I ask why this would be considered so important.

Our local association is strong and the officials are elected by the majority who decide to turn up at the AGM ................. to which everyone is informed of and invited.

I would also state that everything our association has done has been for the whole (Gateshead) trade and not just the proportion who are fully paid up members. This is not the case with other representative groups I know, but that must include representatives of the PH operations.


B. Lucky

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"Here's a simple solution. If you don't want to pay more for a premium service then wait in the queue, problem solved".
Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

The fact that membership numbers aren't really important makes it all the more stranger that unions/associations are very reluctant to reveal them.

Methinks they just like to mislead the powers that be.

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IDFIMH

Quite agree JD, no problem in Brighton with membership numbers we all know how many members are in each group.

I would also like to say as an ex T&G member that Mike Hedges was a dedicated T&G man giving loads of his own time to the trade, I hope all turns out well for him.

Regards
BB

GA your obviously SCHIZROPHENIC hear you advocate democracy, elswhere you attack it, so whats the real story??????????????
Why dont you ask your other-half???????????????
DECISIONS ARE TAKEN BY THOSE THAT TURN UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The views expressed by this contributor do not neccesarily reflect the policys of The GMB Nationally or of the GMB London Region.

Sussex I would agree that misleading the powers that be would be benificial if the representatives were seeking special dispensations or facilities for their members only.

In many cases though the local representatives are seeking to agenda items which concern the whole trade, and will benefit everyone.

The other thing is that some people wish their voice to be the only voice the council listen to on issues raised. This is not the case here, we invite and support other groups attending council meetings with a voice equal to ours.

What people say is more important that how many they are speaking on behalf of .............................. they unions don't like opposing viewpoint cause they cannot substanciate their arguments without threatening legal or industrial action.

B. Lucky

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"Here's a simple solution. If you don't want to pay more for a premium service then wait in the queue, problem solved".
Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

It's interesting that you mention that word Terry, I thought you might be a closet one, albeit spelt slightly differently.

I'm not sure about Gateshead Association (perhaps GA could tell us?) but Carlisle has over 100 members.

CC

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George Carlin

The reason I feel it is important is because I want to know what mandate these so called representative organisations have from the whole of the Taxi trade when they say they represent not only me but the whole of the Trade. I would much prefer that they said they represent their 50 members rather than the trade as a whole? At least that would be an accurate statement.

Mr T said Liverpool have no more than 50 T&G members and the fleets have about 7 members. Therefore a miniscule body of only 50 is making decisions on behalf 3000 hackney carriage owners and drivers in Liverpool, when in effect they only have a mandate from 50 people.

I don't think a membership of 50 people equalling 1.6% of the Liverpool taxi trade gives anyone a mandate do you?

My own figures show that the T&G have only 288 registered hackney carriage members in the whole of the North West Region. So its patently obvious the reason why they don't like disclosing numbers.

Taking the DfT figures of North West hackney carriage drivers of 18,000 divided by the 288 NW T&G members surprisingly echoes the figure of Liverpool, being 1.6%. I have no reason to believe this percentage will not be norm the throughout the country.

The Figures of the Northwest membership came directly from the headquaters of the T&G in Salford.

Regards

JD

Like TODA in Manchester representing approx 80 out of 900? about 1/10th?

Or TOA in Carlisle representing 50%?

CC

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George Carlin

Manchester licensing tell me they have in the region of 2000 licensed hackney carriage drivers which I find hard to believe but if its true it would mean the percentage of TOA representation would be 4% based on your figure of 80.

However Charley Oakes in Bolton has free membership to his organisation which he says has 120 members, this betters carlisle by a fair percentage because if it was based on DfT figures of 2005 which states 150 Bolton hack drivers, then it would mean 80% of those drivers are in Charleys organisation. However, I'm not convinced Charley does have 80% of the Bolton Taxi trade in his organisation.

By the way, according to DfT figures in 2004 you had 247 licensed drivers, which works out at 40% membership of the Carlisle TOA.

Regards

JD

Sorry JD, I was going on about plates represented, not drivers, we have 250 drivers in Carlisle for 204 vehicles. I didnt include driver (non owner driver) members in the figures.

regards

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Bolton informed me they have 109 hacks, 165 licensed hack drivers and that they have no intention of having an unmet demand survey in the near future. The last survey they had was in 2002 so they better be careful.

Regards

JD

It was stated in this report that Branch 1/230 is a branch of the TGWU consisting of members of the Licensed Cab Trade in Central London and has around 500 members plus up to 100 retired members. I was wondering how many other such cab branches there are in London and what are their Branch numbers?

Regards

JD