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In Glasgow, Nicholl said: "There is talk of it costing £700 to £800. If he has signed me up for finance of over three grand, what happened to the rest?"

with reference to the people signed up for finance, is it not the law in Scotland that once you have paid 50% of anything on a hire purchase agreement you can hand it back with no penalty,

the thinker wrote:

with reference to the people signed up for finance, is it not the law in Scotland that once you have paid 50% of anything on a hire purchase agreement you can hand it back with no penalty,

Well let's hope so.

Sussex wrote:

the thinker wrote:

with reference to the people signed up for finance, is it not the law in Scotland that once you have paid 50% of anything on a hire purchase agreement you can hand it back with no penalty,

Well let's hope so.

So if you signed up to a 5 year deal before christmas, you've only got 800 and odd days to go!

Because of the length of this article Susanna Freedmans response has been edited out.

Evidence of Cabtivates growth is visible in Manchester, however that is the limit of my knowledge on this enterprise. From recollection I seem to recall there was reference to Mr Mark Greenhalgh being a subscriber to the Fastblacks forum but I don't think this was ever substantiated, or was it?
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The Sunday Herald

August 13, 2006

HEADLINE: WATER COOLER DEBATE: IS ENTERING BBC TV'S DRAGONS' DEN GOOD FOR YOUR BUSINESS?

BYLINE: YES By Mark Greenhalgh NO By Susanna Freedman

YES By Mark Greenhalgh

IS it a good idea for businesses to appear on Dragons' Den? I'm not going to lie: the experience of facing the "dragons" was sheer hell.

In a single hour I was reduced to a sweating and stuttering wreck and felt as if my entire business plan had been unravelled and left in pieces on the studio floor. It was the fiercest questioning I've experienced; so serious that at one point I had a sickening moment where I even doubted the worth of my own idea.

You have to hand it to the dragons: they know how to make people squirm, and realise the sight of someone in extreme discomfort makes for great reality TV.

My 50-minute presentation was edited down to just six minutes. Predictably, those six minutes showed me in the worst possible light. The result was a highly memorable TV show for the BBC, and a lesson in public humiliation and ridicule for me.

I could easily have ended up on the other side of this debate urging business to steer clear of the fire-breathing panel of tycoons at all costs. The reason I'm not lies in one word: exposure.

The publicity afforded to Cabtivate as a result of the show was amazing. With the help of a good PR company, the exposure reached positive levels I could only have dreamed about.

It helped that during the four months between filming and the show being aired, Cabtivate had gone from strength to strength and secured all necessary funding without the help of the dragons. Indeed, when the show was broadcast I was even nicknamed "The Dragon Slayer" in the press. The TV appearance did wonders for the profile of the business and it felt like everybody knew about our taxi TV system.

Obviously I was "lucky" to have received such a memorable mauling as it stuck in viewers' minds. Importantly, I didn't let the experience damage faith in my own ability or the viability of the business. Cabtivate is now more successful than any of the dragons predicted and is continuing to grow in size and stature throughout the UK.

Anyone considering appearing on Dragons' Den shouldn't do so with the sole aim of securing funding or they will probably be left disappointed and disheartened. Those who do make it on to the show should have their eyes wide open and milk the experience for all it is worth.

Such exposure can make or break a fledgling company. The fact you might get to ride into the sunset with dragon's blood dripping from your sword is an added bonus.

Mark Greenhalgh is managing director of Cabtivate Media
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Sussex wrote:

the thinker wrote:

with reference to the people signed up for finance, is it not the law in Scotland that once you have paid 50% of anything on a hire purchase agreement you can hand it back with no penalty,

Well let's hope so.

So if you signed up to a 5 year deal before christmas, you've only got 800 and odd days to go! eusasmiles.zip

captain cab wrote:

Sussex wrote:

the thinker wrote:

with reference to the people signed up for finance, is it not the law in Scotland that once you have paid 50% of anything on a hire purchase agreement you can hand it back with no penalty,

Well let's hope so.

So if you signed up to a 5 year deal before christmas, you've only got 800 and odd days to go! eusasmiles.zip

Are you naturally a total [edited by admin] or do you have to practice

the thinker wrote:

captain cab wrote:

Sussex wrote:

the thinker wrote:

with reference to the people signed up for finance, is it not the law in Scotland that once you have paid 50% of anything on a hire purchase agreement you can hand it back with no penalty,

Well let's hope so.

So if you signed up to a 5 year deal before christmas, you've only got 800 and odd days to go! eusasmiles.zip

Are you naturally a total [edited by admin] or do you have to practice

Now that isnt a very nice answer, I am wishing cancer upon you :shock:

, naaa lets make that a barrier system at york station complete with deregulation :lol:

Author:	Sussex [ Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:15 am ]
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When first we practice to deceive http://www.theherald.co.uk/business/new ... 63.0.0.php

Author:	Sussex [ Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:16 am ]
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Sussex wrote: In Glasgow, Nicholl said: "There is talk of it costing £700 to £800. If he has signed me up for finance of over three grand, what happened to the rest?" Indeed.

Author:	Sussex [ Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:24 am ]
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A glimmer of hope. http://www.theherald.co.uk/business/new ... 07.0.0.php

Author:	the thinker [ Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:48 am ]
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with reference to the people signed up for finance, is it not the law in Scotland that once you have paid 50% of anything on a hire purchase agreement you can hand it back with no penalty,

Author:	Sussex [ Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:00 pm ]
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the thinker wrote: with reference to the people signed up for finance, is it not the law in Scotland that once you have paid 50% of anything on a hire purchase agreement you can hand it back with no penalty, Well let's hope so.

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Author:	captain cab [ Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:15 pm ]
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Sussex wrote: the thinker wrote: with reference to the people signed up for finance, is it not the law in Scotland that once you have paid 50% of anything on a hire purchase agreement you can hand it back with no penalty, Well let's hope so. So if you signed up to a 5 year deal before christmas, you've only got 800 and odd days to go! CC

Author:	JD [ Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:23 pm ]
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captain cab wrote: Sussex wrote: the thinker wrote: with reference to the people signed up for finance, is it not the law in Scotland that once you have paid 50% of anything on a hire purchase agreement you can hand it back with no penalty, Well let's hope so. So if you signed up to a 5 year deal before christmas, you've only got 800 and odd days to go! From what I can gather some contracts are 104.00 pounds per month for four years but just to remind ourselves of the turn of events in this saga it might be appropriate to look back at the rise and fall of Cabtivate? I don't know Mr Greenhalgh but you have to hand it to him he did well to get this venture off the ground even though he ran up so much debt? Here is the Dragons Den story I posted some time ago, from the Daily Herald Where Mr Greenhalgh is upbeat about the future. ........................................... JD wrote: Because of the length of this article Susanna Freedmans response has been edited out. Evidence of Cabtivates growth is visible in Manchester, however that is the limit of my knowledge on this enterprise. From recollection I seem to recall there was reference to Mr Mark Greenhalgh being a subscriber to the Fastblacks forum but I don't think this was ever substantiated, or was it? .................................................... The Sunday Herald August 13, 2006 HEADLINE: WATER COOLER DEBATE: IS ENTERING BBC TV'S DRAGONS' DEN GOOD FOR YOUR BUSINESS? BYLINE: YES By Mark Greenhalgh NO By Susanna Freedman YES By Mark Greenhalgh IS it a good idea for businesses to appear on Dragons' Den? I'm not going to lie: the experience of facing the "dragons" was sheer hell. In a single hour I was reduced to a sweating and stuttering wreck and felt as if my entire business plan had been unravelled and left in pieces on the studio floor. It was the fiercest questioning I've experienced; so serious that at one point I had a sickening moment where I even doubted the worth of my own idea. You have to hand it to the dragons: they know how to make people squirm, and realise the sight of someone in extreme discomfort makes for great reality TV. My 50-minute presentation was edited down to just six minutes. Predictably, those six minutes showed me in the worst possible light. The result was a highly memorable TV show for the BBC, and a lesson in public humiliation and ridicule for me. I could easily have ended up on the other side of this debate urging business to steer clear of the fire-breathing panel of tycoons at all costs. The reason I'm not lies in one word: exposure. The publicity afforded to Cabtivate as a result of the show was amazing. With the help of a good PR company, the exposure reached positive levels I could only have dreamed about. It helped that during the four months between filming and the show being aired, Cabtivate had gone from strength to strength and secured all necessary funding without the help of the dragons. Indeed, when the show was broadcast I was even nicknamed "The Dragon Slayer" in the press. The TV appearance did wonders for the profile of the business and it felt like everybody knew about our taxi TV system. Obviously I was "lucky" to have received such a memorable mauling as it stuck in viewers' minds. Importantly, I didn't let the experience damage faith in my own ability or the viability of the business. Cabtivate is now more successful than any of the dragons predicted and is continuing to grow in size and stature throughout the UK. Anyone considering appearing on Dragons' Den shouldn't do so with the sole aim of securing funding or they will probably be left disappointed and disheartened. Those who do make it on to the show should have their eyes wide open and milk the experience for all it is worth. Such exposure can make or break a fledgling company. The fact you might get to ride into the sunset with dragon's blood dripping from your sword is an added bonus. Mark Greenhalgh is managing director of Cabtivate Media ...................................................................

Author:	captain cab [ Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:24 pm ]
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I think the guy needed a break, the scheme was a decent enough but was blighted by petty jealousy's from some in the trade. CC

Author:	the thinker [ Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:48 pm ]
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captain cab wrote: Sussex wrote: the thinker wrote: with reference to the people signed up for finance, is it not the law in Scotland that once you have paid 50% of anything on a hire purchase agreement you can hand it back with no penalty, Well let's hope so. So if you signed up to a 5 year deal before christmas, you've only got 800 and odd days to go! CC Are you naturally a total [edited by admin] or do you have to practice

Author:	Guest [ Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:13 pm ]
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took him legal to get money owed at the end....! said he'd not booked the 3rd issue but he made the mistake of sending in new artwork for that issue...lol thats last year about this time so things not too good even then maybe...?

Author:	captain cab [ Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:47 pm ]
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the thinker wrote: captain cab wrote: Sussex wrote: the thinker wrote: with reference to the people signed up for finance, is it not the law in Scotland that once you have paid 50% of anything on a hire purchase agreement you can hand it back with no penalty, Well let's hope so. So if you signed up to a 5 year deal before christmas, you've only got 800 and odd days to go! CC Are you naturally a total [edited by admin] or do you have to practice Now that isnt a very nice answer, I am wishing cancer upon you , naaa lets make that a barrier system at york station complete with deregulation CC

Author:	the thinker [ Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:51 pm ]
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captain cab wrote: the thinker wrote: captain cab wrote: Sussex wrote: the thinker wrote: with reference to the people signed up for finance, is it not the law in Scotland that once you have paid 50% of anything on a hire purchase agreement you can hand it back with no penalty, Well let's hope so. So if you signed up to a 5 year deal before christmas, you've only got 800 and odd days to go! CC Are you naturally a total [edited by admin] or do you have to practice Now that isnt a very nice answer, I am wishing cancer upon you , naaa lets make that a barrier system at york station complete with deregulation CC Now that proves what you are, I have lost three of my family through that dreaded disease all before they were 60, but i don't suppose that will bother a low life [edited by admin] like you, may you rot in hell, next time Im in Carlisle I'll look you up and you can tell me to my face and don't take that as an idle threat treat it as apromise.

Author:	Sussex [ Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:10 pm ]
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Guys I'm pretty sure you are really both on the same side, so let's not get too upset. I think the bloke thought he could make some money for drivers and loads for himself. Alas it seems he failed in both instances.

Author:	GBC [ Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:12 pm ]
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I think the thinker should take his mask off. I've E-mailed you Capt with the suspects true identity. Have a look at the previous posts of the suspect and see the obvious mistakes which in turn leads to his previous identity.

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Author:	captain cab [ Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:44 pm ]
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He or she started it but my remark was in extremely poor taste, so I therefore wish to apologise unreservedly and replace it with I sincerely hope you catch your meat and vegtables in your zip tommorrow morning. I agree with Sussex (or I think I do), this guy was looking to make money, but so were the drivers getting the system installed. Considering the guy came from the trade and was looking to make money from the trade but also for the trade, I dont see why he is taking the crap he is. I understand he's recently had a heart attack. As the 'thinker' pointed out the agreements in Scotland are different to England.....I was trying to point out even if you were in Scotland and had just signed.....it still leaves a way to go. As a final comment, I'm going to York...in June playing golf, I'll save your petrol money CC