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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:02 pm 
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Forget about this post I didn't see it in the other section.

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Forget about this post I didn't see it in the other section.

What post ???????

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:22 pm 
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That's the job done and dusted - everyone in now waiting on the decision.

The good news by all accounts is that the council's QC got ripped to pieces. I have not heard one report where QC Armstrong made any headway in presenting the case. Apparently he was shot down on every point.

The decision should take from 4-6 weeks but could take up to 12 weeks at the Law Lords discretion.

The only downside is the decision could be pushed beyond the local elections - this was of course the council’s strategy all along - elected and unelected officials hoping to deflect a lot of the flak for their incompetence.


JD, I think your statement of facts did the trick. According to my sources the Judges appeared to be very knowledgeable on taxis licencing matters. :wink:


Well it did the trick in the sheriff principal court and I had every belief it would do the job in the higher court.

I was a little concerned that those who were appealing did not have any legal representation to speak on their behalf? However if they do win then CEC are going to look rather foolish in the local press when it is revealed that they were beaten by a guy in Manchester sat behind a computer.

I would normally say lets wait for the ruling and study it before we make any comment but I am extremely pleased that they are going to rule on it which means we will hopefully have all the quetions I raised in that Statement of Facts, answered. In which case there will never again be a situation where a council in Scotland can manipulate those sections of the 1982 act in order to work against natural justice.

If they win then a Big Thank you should go to all concerned for sticking to it and especially once again TDO.

I'm well pleased.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:30 pm 
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JD wrote:
Skull wrote:
That's the job done and dusted - everyone in now waiting on the decision.

The good news by all accounts is that the council's QC got ripped to pieces. I have not heard one report where QC Armstrong made any headway in presenting the case. Apparently he was shot down on every point.

The decision should take from 4-6 weeks but could take up to 12 weeks at the Law Lords discretion.

The only downside is the decision could be pushed beyond the local elections - this was of course the council’s strategy all along - elected and unelected officials hoping to deflect a lot of the flak for their incompetence.


JD, I think your statement of facts did the trick. According to my sources the Judges appeared to be very knowledgeable on taxis licencing matters. :wink:


Well it did the trick in the sheriff principal court and I had every belief it would do the job in the higher court.

I was a little concerned that those who were appealing did not have any legal representation to speak on their behalf? However if they do win then CEC are going to look rather foolish in the local press when it is revealed that they were beaten by a guy in Manchester sat behind a computer.

I would normally say lets wait for the ruling and study it before we make any comment but I am extremely pleased that they are going to rule on it which means we will hopefully have all the quetions I raised in that Statement of Facts, answered. In which case there will never again be a situation where a council in Scotland can manipulate those sections of the 1982 act in order to work against natural justice.

If they win then a Big Thank you should go to all concerned for sticking to it and especially once again TDO.

I'm well pleased.

Regards

JD


Yes it's been a good fight and you guys certainly come up trumps. Many thanks on that score. I only hope now the decision does a lot of damage to the reputations of those involved.

We still have Jim’s application in the frame and in the event the council refuse and we lose the appeal, we intend to make another application if the council go to the interested parties list (IPL) anytime soon. The new Taxi Action Plan (TAP) could be the catalyst to another challenge if demand is identified.

It seems the TAP is taking in other demand indicators like the increase in Ph although there is still no mention of plate ‘values’ or licence transfers. :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:53 pm 
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Skull wrote:
JD wrote:
Skull wrote:
That's the job done and dusted - everyone in now waiting on the decision.

The good news by all accounts is that the council's QC got ripped to pieces. I have not heard one report where QC Armstrong made any headway in presenting the case. Apparently he was shot down on every point.

The decision should take from 4-6 weeks but could take up to 12 weeks at the Law Lords discretion.

The only downside is the decision could be pushed beyond the local elections - this was of course the council’s strategy all along - elected and unelected officials hoping to deflect a lot of the flak for their incompetence.


JD, I think your statement of facts did the trick. According to my sources the Judges appeared to be very knowledgeable on taxis licencing matters. :wink:


Well it did the trick in the sheriff principal court and I had every belief it would do the job in the higher court.

I was a little concerned that those who were appealing did not have any legal representation to speak on their behalf? However if they do win then CEC are going to look rather foolish in the local press when it is revealed that they were beaten by a guy in Manchester sat behind a computer.

I would normally say lets wait for the ruling and study it before we make any comment but I am extremely pleased that they are going to rule on it which means we will hopefully have all the quetions I raised in that Statement of Facts, answered. In which case there will never again be a situation where a council in Scotland can manipulate those sections of the 1982 act in order to work against natural justice.

If they win then a Big Thank you should go to all concerned for sticking to it and especially once again TDO.

I'm well pleased.

Regards

JD


Yes it's been a good fight and you guys certainly come up trumps. Many thanks on that score. I only hope now the decision does a lot of damage to the reputations of those involved.

We still have Jim’s application in the frame and in the event the council refuse and we lose the appeal, we intend to make another application if the council go to the interested parties list (IPL) anytime soon. The new Taxi Action Plan (TAP) could be the catalyst to another challenge if demand is identified.

It seems the TAP is taking in other demand indicators like the increase in Ph although there is still no mention of plate ‘values’ or licence transfers. :wink:


Jims appeal takes precedent over any list but knowing Edinburgh council they will no doubt try i ton but it wont get them anywhere. All it will mean is that Jim will get his plate and so will those persons who the council nominated from the interested parties list. Councillors have never been very bright in respect of Taxi licensing laws thats why we need to take it away from them.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:23 pm 
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JD wrote:
Skull wrote:
JD wrote:
Skull wrote:
That's the job done and dusted - everyone in now waiting on the decision.

The good news by all accounts is that the council's QC got ripped to pieces. I have not heard one report where QC Armstrong made any headway in presenting the case. Apparently he was shot down on every point.

The decision should take from 4-6 weeks but could take up to 12 weeks at the Law Lords discretion.

The only downside is the decision could be pushed beyond the local elections - this was of course the council’s strategy all along - elected and unelected officials hoping to deflect a lot of the flak for their incompetence.


JD, I think your statement of facts did the trick. According to my sources the Judges appeared to be very knowledgeable on taxis licencing matters. :wink:


Well it did the trick in the sheriff principal court and I had every belief it would do the job in the higher court.

I was a little concerned that those who were appealing did not have any legal representation to speak on their behalf? However if they do win then CEC are going to look rather foolish in the local press when it is revealed that they were beaten by a guy in Manchester sat behind a computer.

I would normally say lets wait for the ruling and study it before we make any comment but I am extremely pleased that they are going to rule on it which means we will hopefully have all the quetions I raised in that Statement of Facts, answered. In which case there will never again be a situation where a council in Scotland can manipulate those sections of the 1982 act in order to work against natural justice.

If they win then a Big Thank you should go to all concerned for sticking to it and especially once again TDO.

I'm well pleased.

Regards

JD


Yes it's been a good fight and you guys certainly come up trumps. Many thanks on that score. I only hope now the decision does a lot of damage to the reputations of those involved.

We still have Jim’s application in the frame and in the event the council refuse and we lose the appeal, we intend to make another application if the council go to the interested parties list (IPL) anytime soon. The new Taxi Action Plan (TAP) could be the catalyst to another challenge if demand is identified.

It seems the TAP is taking in other demand indicators like the increase in Ph although there is still no mention of plate ‘values’ or licence transfers. :wink:


Jims appeal takes precedent over any list but knowing Edinburgh council they will no doubt try i ton but it wont get them anywhere. All it will mean is that Jim will get his plate and so will those persons who the council nominated from the interested parties list. Councillors have never been very bright in respect of Taxi licensing laws thats why we need to take it away from them.

Regards

JD


Yes, my sentiments exactly. :wink:


I'm looking forward to the next battle. We are in front of the RC on the 7th of April, should be fun :wink:

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