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| Author: | Sussex [ Tue May 29, 2007 3:45 pm ] |
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I know it has been discussed many times on here, but I'm really not a fan of folks getting done by the courts then the council. 
http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/viewa ... ?id=503468 IMO if the courts say she should be banned for X, then that's the start and the finish of it. 
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| Author: | stu [ Tue May 29, 2007 4:55 pm ] |
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One third over the speed limit certainly doesn't seem a heinous enough crime to ruin ones life really,or put you out of work/business,I thought they had speed awareness courses as an alternative in these cases? At the end of the day it's something that most people do at some point when their driving, is it not the inappropriate use of speed at the wrong time and place that is the real problem. |
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| Author: | jimbo [ Tue May 29, 2007 8:49 pm ] |
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stu wrote: One third over the speed limit certainly doesn't seem a heinous enough crime to ruin ones life really,or put you out of work/business,I thought they had speed awareness courses as an alternative in these cases?
At the end of the day it's something that most people do at some point when their driving, is it not the inappropriate use of speed at the wrong time and place that is the real problem. 105 mph is 50% over the speed limit. She should join the Police if she likes doing over a ton, after todays news. |
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| Author: | stu [ Tue May 29, 2007 10:48 pm ] |
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Well it's all relative Jimbo surely,doing 45mph in a 30mph limit would be 50% over the limit but it's one third of your speed over the stated limit in mph,I'm not saying it is not an offence or trying to excuse it,but there are often other factors,time,weather,volume of traffic etc. I am just stating that 105mph on a motorway is just the same as 25mph in a 20mph zone,45mph in a 30mph zone or 75mph in a 60mph zone. Of course if you were doing 105mph in a 20mph zone that would be a different story. When the 70mph limits were introduced in 1965 the average top speed of the average car was 89mph one would imagine it must be around 120mph now. To be honest I doubt there are many drivers now who strictly observe the motorway speed limit. I still dont think it's reason enough to remove the means for someone to earn their living. Have you ever done 40mph in a 30mph zone Jimbo. 
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| Author: | cabby john [ Tue May 29, 2007 10:51 pm ] |
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If the offense was done whilst she was working then I can understand the L.As intervention - However if it was done in her free time - now that would be another matter! Having said that how many times does one get punished? Anyone else normally once - But! if you are a taxi driver 
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| Author: | Skippy71 [ Wed May 30, 2007 2:01 am ] |
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cabby john wrote: Having said that how many times does one get punished? Anyone else normally once - But! if you are a taxi driver
The Speed Limit is a Law the same as any other - break it and face the consequences; if you lose your job over it then tough! Saying that a cabbie should be allowed to get away with speeding when not working is like saying that an IT Consultant can legally look at web porn for as long as he's not working at the time! Speed kills - end of story. Speed limits are there for a reason and if you continually break them then you will get a driving ban and lose you Hack badge; you know it will happen so why make it easy. |
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| Author: | stu [ Wed May 30, 2007 4:26 am ] |
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Have to disagree with your comment "speed kills end of story" in 1930 there were 7000 road deaths and 2 and 3 million vehicles,whereas now there are about 25 or 27 million vehicles and between 3 and 4 thousand deaths. |
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| Author: | cabby john [ Wed May 30, 2007 11:24 am ] |
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Skippy71 wrote: cabby john wrote: Having said that how many times does one get punished? Anyone else normally once - But! if you are a taxi driver The Speed Limit is a Law the same as any other - break it and face the consequences; if you lose your job over it then tough! Saying that a cabbie should be allowed to get away with speeding when not working is like saying that an IT Consultant can legally look at web porn for as long as he's not working at the time! Speed kills - end of story. Speed limits are there for a reason and if you continually break them then you will get a driving ban and lose you Hack badge; you know it will happen so why make it easy. Skippy you are missing the point, she has been punished by the courts - and now it would seem that the L.A is going to have a go at her. The punishment has been metered out once, you would not expect to go into another every day job and for the boss to have another go. As Stu says it is factual that speed as such does not kill - although I do understand where you are coming from. P.S could you not use a better or different example than an I.T consultant - what are you like!
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| Author: | JD [ Wed May 30, 2007 2:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Done twice for the same thing |
Sussex wrote: I know it has been discussed many times on here, but I'm really not a fan of folks getting done by the courts then the council.
http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/viewa ... ?id=503468 IMO if the courts say she should be banned for X, then that's the start and the finish of it. From the same newspaper and from the same area, came the following story. 15 police officers speeding on duty Published on 30/05/2007 By Nick Griffiths FIFTEEN police officers in Cumbria were caught speeding while on duty last year – but only one was fined. New figures also reveal the number of officers breaking the limit has doubled since 2005, when seven were spotted smashing speed restrictions. Cumbria police said the 14 officers who did not face any action were caught speeding while involved in legitimate duties. By law, police – and other emergency services – can be excused a fine or points on their licences if they were involved in actions such as chasing suspects, attending 999 calls or other urgent operations. The single officer not exempt from punishment was given an on-the-spot fine. Andy Wilson, chairman of Cumbria Police Federation – the union representing rank-and-file officers – said: “These are police officers caught speeding while on duty. Each case is looked at individually. Under the Road Traffic Act officers are exempt when attending emergency responses. “Of the 15 officers caught committing the offence, each was looked at and scrutinised and found to be doing the job they were there to do. One officer was looked at under the same scrutiny and dealt with fairly.” Mr Wilson said there were times when police had to break speed limits or go through red lights. “If you can imagine it’s a Friday night in Carlisle and an emergency call comes in that there is a massive fight on Botchergate,” he added. “They are not acting in the execution of their duty if they don’t go through the red light and get there as soon as possible. With our training, police go to the light, check nothing is coming and then go through it.” Nationally, 90,000 police were caught speeding or going through red lights. Officers with London’s Metropolitan Police were caught out 48,222 times, with 57 tickets issued. ____________________ |
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| Author: | Skull [ Wed May 30, 2007 2:27 pm ] |
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Take your pick: 
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=561452006 Fit and Proper I don't think...... "AT LEAST 158 serving police officers in Scotland have convictions for offences ranging from assault and drink-driving to attempting to pervert the course of justice"
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| Author: | jimbo [ Wed May 30, 2007 2:34 pm ] |
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stu wrote: Well it's all relative Jimbo surely,doing 45mph in a 30mph limit would be 50% over the limit but it's one third of your speed over the stated limit in mph,I'm not saying it is not an offence or trying to excuse it,but there are often other factors,time,weather,volume of traffic etc. I am just stating that 105mph on a motorway is just the same as 25mph in a 20mph zone,45mph in a 30mph zone or 75mph in a 60mph zone. Of course if you were doing 105mph in a 20mph zone that would be a different story. When the 70mph limits were introduced in 1965 the average top speed of the average car was 89mph one would imagine it must be around 120mph now. To be honest I doubt there are many drivers now who strictly observe the motorway speed limit. I still dont think it's reason enough to remove the means for someone to earn their living. Have you ever done 40mph in a 30mph zone Jimbo. Quote:
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| Author: | jimbo [ Wed May 30, 2007 2:35 pm ] |
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OOps! Never done over 40 in a 30. Never, ever done 105mph in a Metrocab. |
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| Author: | JD [ Wed May 30, 2007 2:36 pm ] |
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stu wrote: Have to disagree with your comment "speed kills end of story" in 1930 there were 7000 road deaths and 2 and 3 million vehicles,whereas now there are about 25 or 27 million vehicles and between 3 and 4 thousand deaths.
Jimbo will tell you that he always adheres to the speed limit. At least thats what he told us. Regards JD |
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| Author: | jimbo [ Wed May 30, 2007 2:41 pm ] |
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JD wrote: stu wrote: Have to disagree with your comment "speed kills end of story" in 1930 there were 7000 road deaths and 2 and 3 million vehicles,whereas now there are about 25 or 27 million vehicles and between 3 and 4 thousand deaths. Jimbo will tell you that he always adheres to the speed limit. At least thats what he told us. Regards JD Would you like to see my license? |
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| Author: | gusmac [ Wed May 30, 2007 2:47 pm ] |
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jimbo wrote: Never, ever done 105mph in a Metrocab.
couldn't get more than 95 out of mine! 
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