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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:32 pm 
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did anyone take time out today to read The Mail on Sunday, the suppliment, Financial mail

heading "taxman driving us to the wall"

PH firm Codsall Cars set up couple of years ago, they asked the taxman if the drivers counted as self employed, they said yes, but 2 years later they say the PH firm was wrongly advised

since a new test case was won by the Revenue at a special hearing, Codsall Cars have to stump up £156 grand to cover there 50 drivers, the PH firm must now revert the drivers from self employed to employed

the test case involved a hotel company called Demibourne

this is the case which they are using

don't ask me how it all ties in

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I have been saying that since I started posting, I knew about it but most did not believe what I had been saying all along.
I know as It happened to a company in the borders 5 years ago.


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skippy41 wrote:
I have been saying that since I started posting, I knew about it but most did not believe what I had been saying all along.
I know as It happened to a company in the borders 5 years ago.


Is it related to this case?

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It may be JD, but with a slight difference, all the drivers where deemed self employed but did not own the cabs , all drivers received a % of the weekly take, the owner payed the fuel, and any other running costs, the tax man wanted the money due from the full amount of take and so did the vat man,


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skippy41 wrote:
It may be JD, but with a slight difference, all the drivers where deemed self employed but did not own the cabs , all drivers received a % of the weekly take, the owner payed the fuel, and any other running costs, the tax man wanted the money due from the full amount of take and so did the vat man,


Quite right as well.

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It still goes on here, I have tried to warn the drivers and owners, but will they listen no chance. oh well more fool them.
perhaps if JD could get it published in taxi and pH monthly they might take notice.


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There was an article on this very subject in a recent issue.

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After asking one of the new drivers here, I have asked the question, are you self employed or employed, I got him to tell me what the deal was with the owner and he said the following when asked do you own the car or any of the equipment, no, who pays the fuel he said 50 50, who pays the servicing the boss, who pays the insurance, the boss, what payments do you receive 50 50,
so is he self employed or an employee. :?: :?: :?:


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skippy41 wrote:
After asking one of the new drivers here, I have asked the question, are you self employed or employed, I got him to tell me what the deal was with the owner and he said the following when asked do you own the car or any of the equipment, no, who pays the fuel he said 50 50, who pays the servicing the boss, who pays the insurance, the boss, what payments do you receive 50 50,
so is he self employed or an employee. :?: :?: :?:


EMPLOYED imo

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There are a lot of firms round my way doing it but I won't even though it means i am short of drivers because at the end of the day i don't want to get lumbered with a big tax bill

I was talking to a driver the other night who has been driving taxis for most of the last 8 years he has never paid tax or N I but the thing is as i said to him he can't assume the inland revenue wont eventually catch up with him


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edders23 wrote:
There are a lot of firms round my way doing it but I won't even though it means i am short of drivers because at the end of the day i don't want to get lumbered with a big tax bill

I was talking to a driver the other night who has been driving taxis for most of the last 8 years he has never paid tax or N I but the thing is as i said to him he can't assume the inland revenue wont eventually catch up with him


His bill will come soon - the new NIRS system was/is about 7 years behind, so he will get his bill soon

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Sounds more like he's working in the black economy rather than just waiting for the tax man to issue a demand. :-|

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