Cybro wrote:
"We are legally obliged to consider every objection."
Oh no there are not.
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| Author: | Cybro [ Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Wigan Hackney Drivers Fury At Pay Rise Cut |
09 Feb 2008 Taxi-drivers' fury at pay rise cut Wigan's taxi drivers are furious that fare increases have been frozen following objections from what would only amount to a cab full of people. Hackney owners thought they had won their battle to boost rates by between seven and 12 per cent. The rises were due to come in from yesterday. But now they have been told that the regulation committee has deferred the introduction at the 11th hour. And all because they have received just THREE objections from residents after the plans were advertised in the press. Earlier, councillors accepted evidence presented to them that Wigan's cabbies have been forced to absorb significant hikes in fuel prices. The move by the Metro regulation committee would have meant that the borough's 136 black cab licence holders would have been able to put up the first mile rate from £2.80 to a maximum of £3.10 and the four mile journey rate up from £7.40 to a maximum £8.30. The controversial formula adopted by the council to calculate cab fare increases is to remain, despite pleas by the cabbies union TGWU branch that it be scrapped – although it will be reviewed. Even if approved next month, it will still leave Wiganers with some of the cheapest rides in the region. Average running mile rate in the county is now £1.69. The application had been deferred earlier in the month so that cabbies could present more evidence to back up their case. Licensed taxi drivers Transport and General Workers Union branch secretary Ronnie Melling said: "There are 300,000 adults in the Metro borough and just three have objected to the rises but these three have the power to stop it. "It just beggers belief and the lads are annoyed. Surely there are rules about the number of objections necessary to stop something like this." The matter will be re-considered on March 5. A council spokesperson said: "We are legally obliged to consider every objection." Source: Wigan Today TDO Related Topic(s): Taxi Fares could Rise 10p-a-mile in Wigan |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wigan Hackney Drivers Fury At Pay Rise Cut |
Cybro wrote: "We are legally obliged to consider every objection."
Oh no there are not.
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| Author: | MR T [ Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wigan Hackney Drivers Fury At Pay Rise Cut |
Sussex wrote: Cybro wrote: "We are legally obliged to consider every objection." Oh no they are not. Oh yes they are 
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wigan Hackney Drivers Fury At Pay Rise Cut |
MR T wrote: Sussex wrote: Cybro wrote: "We are legally obliged to consider every objection." Oh no they are not. Oh yes they are Nope disagree 100%. The objections should be viewed and assessed on their own individual merits to see if they are valid, and made by someone who is effected by any increase. i.e. Mr Sussex couldn't have an objection classed as valid for a fare review in Sefton. I also think the trade should be able to make a claim against any objector for loss of earning. But that's a separate issue. 
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| Author: | grandad [ Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:36 pm ] |
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I think the word "consider" is the key. The council are obliged to read and "consider" if the objection has merit. The council are not obliged to give every objection consideration when making their decision. Just a subtle difference in the way the English language is. |
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| Author: | MR T [ Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:08 pm ] |
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grandad wrote: I think the word "consider" is the key. The council are obliged to read and "consider" if the objection has merit. The council are not obliged to give every objection consideration when making their decision. Just a subtle difference in the way the English language is.
 
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| Author: | skippy41 [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:28 am ] |
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Any objections must be first made to the council before the closing date that has to be published in the press, then to the traffic commissioner who will then hold an enquiry with the council and all those who objected, this can take up to 6 months |
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| Author: | cabby john [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:59 pm ] |
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Only a what if - what if the taxi trade objected to licence fee increases imposed upon us by the councils, if there was three or more objections would that stop it. 
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| Author: | gusmac [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:06 pm ] |
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skippy41 wrote: Any objections must be first made to the council before the closing date that has to be published in the press, then to the traffic commissioner who will then hold an enquiry with the council and all those who objected, this can take up to 6 months They have to consider the objections but they don't need to slow things up. They could be looked at and rejected by the same committee which approves any increase (or denies it). If the objectors are unhappy they can appeal to the traffic commissioners, as can the trade.cabby john wrote: Only a what if - what if the taxi trade objected to licence fee increases imposed upon us by the councils, if there was three or more objections would that stop it. Same goes for trade objections.
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| Author: | Sussex [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:43 pm ] |
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skippy41 wrote: Any objections must be first made to the council before the closing date that has to be published in the press, then to the traffic commissioner who will then hold an enquiry with the council and all those who objected, this can take up to 6 months
I think our procedure is slightly different down here. No Traffic Commissioner lark, just clueless councillors. ](./images/smilies/eusa_wall.gif "Brick wall")
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| Author: | MR T [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:47 pm ] |
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Sussex wrote: skippy41 wrote: Any objections must be first made to the council before the closing date that has to be published in the press, then to the traffic commissioner who will then hold an enquiry with the council and all those who objected, this can take up to 6 months I think our procedure is slightly different down here. No Traffic Commissioner lark, just clueless councillors. And you 
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| Author: | Sussex [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:08 pm ] |
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MR T wrote: And you
Surely you don't think that a PH could have anything to do with the fare review? 
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