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Author:  Cybro [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:20 pm ]
Post subject:  No More Strikes Says Dundee Taxi Association President
19 Feb 2008

No more strikes, says taxi president

The president of Dundee Taxi Association has ruled out further strike
action by cabbies after limited progress was made in the latest talks
between trade officials and the city council.

Drivers staged rolling roadblocks in Dundee last year after a dispute with
the council over the increasing number of taxis being granted licences.

The cabbies also protested that private hire firm Dundee Taxi Cab Ltd
(known locally as 203020) was allegedly operating outwith the terms of its licence.

However, today’s meeting between the Taxi Association and council
seemed to calm troubled waters, with an agreement that a survey of the
trade should be conducted to determine a way ahead.

The consultation will focus on the issue of disabled taxis and whether
Dundee’s entire fleet of more than 700 cabs should be wheelchair
accessible. DTA has long argued such a move is both unnecessary and
costly — a wheelchair-friendly taxi can be twice as much as an ordinary
saloon — while the council says legislation demands it.

The consultation will attempt to garner a wide range of views on the issue.

DTA president Graeme Stephen said, “We need the public to make their
feelings known. We won’t take any industrial action —we don’t think that
would be suitable for this sort of thing.”

Source: Evening Telegraph

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Author:  skippy41 [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:02 pm ]
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Quote:
The consultation will focus on the issue of disabled taxis and whether
Dundee’s entire fleet of more than 700 cabs should be wheelchair
accessible. DTA has long argued such a move is both unnecessary and
costly — a wheelchair-friendly taxi can be twice as much as an ordinary
saloon —
Quote:
while the council says legislation demands it.


They must be the most ill informed council in the UK, WTF does it say that??? fecking no where
Author:  jimbo [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:07 pm ]
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skippy41 wrote:
Quote:
The consultation will focus on the issue of disabled taxis and whether
Dundee’s entire fleet of more than 700 cabs should be wheelchair
accessible. DTA has long argued such a move is both unnecessary and
costly — a wheelchair-friendly taxi can be twice as much as an ordinary
saloon —
Quote:
while the council says legislation demands it.


They must be the most ill informed council in the UK, WTF does it say that??? fecking no where



London, Manchester, Liverpool, Liecester, Birmingham, and so on and so forth, legislation demands it.
Author:  skippy41 [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:08 pm ]
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jimbo wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
Quote:
The consultation will focus on the issue of disabled taxis and whether
Dundee’s entire fleet of more than 700 cabs should be wheelchair
accessible. DTA has long argued such a move is both unnecessary and
costly — a wheelchair-friendly taxi can be twice as much as an ordinary
saloon —
Quote:
while the council says legislation demands it.


They must be the most ill informed council in the UK, WTF does it say that??? fecking no where



London, Manchester, Liverpool, Liecester, Birmingham, and so on and so forth, legislation demands it.


NOT IN SCOTLAND DUMMY :roll: :roll: :roll:
Author:  jimbo [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:14 pm ]
Post subject: 
skippy41 wrote:
jimbo wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
Quote:
The consultation will focus on the issue of disabled taxis and whether
Dundee’s entire fleet of more than 700 cabs should be wheelchair
accessible. DTA has long argued such a move is both unnecessary and
costly — a wheelchair-friendly taxi can be twice as much as an ordinary
saloon —
Quote:
while the council says legislation demands it.


They must be the most ill informed council in the UK, WTF does it say that??? fecking no where



London, Manchester, Liverpool, Liecester, Birmingham, and so on and so forth, legislation demands it.


NOT IN SCOTLAND DUMMY :roll: :roll: :roll:



"They must be the most ill informed council in the UK" you said, DUMMY.
Author:  jimbo [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:15 pm ]
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Edinburgh and Glasgow are in Scotland though, Skippy.
Author:  skippy41 [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:26 pm ]
Post subject: 
jimbo wrote:
Edinburgh and Glasgow are in Scotland though, Skippy.


Yes they are and they can use any type of WAV they want, but Dundee are trying to move the goal posts,
I think the taxi owners will be fighting a lost battle as the council has already made up its mind, going against best practice and the recent disability documents recommendations, stating that there must be a mixture of all types of vehicles to let every disabled person have access from a rank or from the street.
As you will probably know, councils that have an all WAV policy are stupid, and that most driver will have had 1 or 2 wav runs if they are lucky, some of them none at all.
Owners should be free to decide what vehicle they want to buy and run and not dictated to by a complete idiots who more than likely never uses a cab
Author:  jimbo [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:30 pm ]
Post subject: 
skippy41 wrote:
jimbo wrote:
Edinburgh and Glasgow are in Scotland though, Skippy.


Yes they are and they can use any type of WAV they want, but Dundee are trying to move the goal posts,
I think the taxi owners will be fighting a lost battle as the council has already made up its mind, going against best practice and the recent disability documents recommendations, stating that there must be a mixture of all types of vehicles to let every disabled person have access from a rank or from the street.
As you will probably know, councils that have an all WAV policy are stupid, and that most driver will have had 1 or 2 wav runs if they are lucky, some of them none at all.
Owners should be free to decide what vehicle they want to buy and run and not dictated to by a complete idiots who more than likely never uses a cab


Yes, you jockenesians are good at moving goalposts, I remember back in the last century your performance at Wembley.

And you also know a fair bit about losing battles, too.
Author:  skippy41 [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:35 pm ]
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Quote:
And you also know a fair bit about losing battles, too.


win or loose
At least we can behave ourselves when we go anywhere in the world :D :D :D
Author:  JD [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:29 am ]
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Just quote prospective EU best practice to them and advise them that although they may desire a 100% wav fleet Eurpoe has deemed it Discriminatory.

Can't you guys in Dundee put these councillors in their place?

Regards

JD
Author:  skippy41 [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:10 am ]
Post subject: 
JD wrote:
Just quote prospective EU best practice to them and advise them that although they may desire a 100% wav fleet Europe has deemed it Discriminatory.

Can't you guys in Dundee put these councillors in their place?

Regards

JD


Perhaps you would like to enlighten them JD

elsie.burnett@dundeecity.gov.uk

john.letford@dundeecity.gov.uk

Have you a link to the above EU BP
Author:  The Dawg [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:41 am ]
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Skippy et al........why do you all seem hell bent on sorting Dundee out yourselves ?? I am a cabbie in Dundee & this is what we need !! Still hundreds of hire-plates in Dundee !! Do you think it is fair that lads shell out on TX/E7/Superbs/People-carriers etc & can't get on a rank because of £300 W-reg Xantias etc.THIS WILL SORT IT OUT !!
Author:  jimbo [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:59 am ]
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The Dawg wrote:
Skippy et al........why do you all seem hell bent on sorting Dundee out yourselves ?? I am a cabbie in Dundee & this is what we need !! Still hundreds of hire-plates in Dundee !! Do you think it is fair that lads shell out on TX/E7/Superbs/People-carriers etc & can't get on a rank because of £300 W-reg Xantias etc.THIS WILL SORT IT OUT !!


Hello Dawg, nice to meet you.

One of the things you will discover when visiting this site is the many contributors who know exactly how to sort out the problems which may or indeed may not be dogging a licensing area they have never set foot in, and in all probability never will. naturally, they all have their own agenda.

That and interference (or not) from central government, dft, oft, cia, mfi to name a few.

Tell them to wind their necks in.
Author:  JD [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:30 pm ]
Post subject: 
jimbo wrote:
The Dawg wrote:
Skippy et al........why do you all seem hell bent on sorting Dundee out yourselves ?? I am a cabbie in Dundee & this is what we need !! Still hundreds of hire-plates in Dundee !! Do you think it is fair that lads shell out on TX/E7/Superbs/People-carriers etc & can't get on a rank because of £300 W-reg Xantias etc.THIS WILL SORT IT OUT !!


Hello Dawg, nice to meet you.

One of the things you will discover when visiting this site is the many contributors who know exactly how to sort out the problems which may or indeed may not be dogging a licensing area they have never set foot in, and in all probability never will. naturally, they all have their own agenda.

That and interference (or not) from central government, dft, oft, cia, mfi to name a few.

Tell them to wind their necks in.


What exactly is the problem in Dundee? Is it the fact that the council want all vehicles to be WAV?

I don't suppose many people outside of Dundee will really care what happens but it doesn't mean debate on the issue has to stop just because a bunch of councillors desire an all WAV fleet.

Whether or not such a decision will be deemed unreasonable or even unlawful is another matter but if you hadn't already noticed Jimbo the decisions of councillors are always worthy of debate. If it had been left to you Carlisle council would still been operating an illegal taxi rank system so I think we are all familiar with your way of thinking.

I have very few thoughts on the matter but those I do have are based on what is lawful, reasonable and in the public interest. They are not based on the interest of Councillors or any particular vested interest of the Dundee taxi trade.

Regards

JD
Author:  gusmac [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:32 pm ]
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Maybe Dundee council should take a look at the recent Sneddon v Renfrewshire case before embarking on this policy.
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