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Author:  jasbar [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Competing with councils

Was it the intention of Parliament to allow councils to restrict the number of taxis operating in an area to maintain a quality service, readily available, and at a reasonable cost to the public?


Queues at taxi ranks show that this intention would not be being met. Nor would the difficulty in hailing a taxi on most streets. Or the substantial rise in Private Hire over the years, where this sector has moved from specialist hires to the provision of a pseudo taxi service to supplement a restricted taxi service failing to meet its market needs.


Or is it because Parliament wanted to contain competition to council owned transport services like buses, taxi-buses and trams?

If so, then they've been successful in achieving this. Except such government interference breaches every tenet of free market economics. Governments should not be running servcies to compete with the private sector.

Unfortunately, the very organisations designed to ensure that markets operate fairly in the interests of consumers, like the Office of Fair Trading, are specifically excluded from bringing market fairness to government organisations.

In short, Parliament has allowed government carte blanche to do whatever it wants. A quite extraordinary state of affairs. Perhaps the redress is through the European anti-competition Laws. Anyone got any experience of this?

Author:  saf [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Competing with councils

jasbar wrote:
Was it the intention of Parliament to allow councils to restrict the number of taxis operating in an area to maintain a quality service, readily available, and at a reasonable cost to the public?


Queues at taxi ranks show that this intention would not be being met. Nor would the difficulty in hailing a taxi on most streets. Or the substantial rise in Private Hire over the years, where this sector has moved from specialist hires to the provision of a pseudo taxi service to supplement a restricted taxi service failing to meet its market needs.


Or is it because Parliament wanted to contain competition to council owned transport services like buses, taxi-buses and trams?

If so, then they've been successful in achieving this. Except such government interference breaches every tenet of free market economics. Governments should not be running servcies to compete with the private sector.

Unfortunately, the very organisations designed to ensure that markets operate fairly in the interests of consumers, like the Office of Fair Trading, are specifically excluded from bringing market fairness to government organisations.

In short, Parliament has allowed government carte blanche to do whatever it wants. A quite extraordinary state of affairs. Perhaps the redress is through the European anti-competition Laws. Anyone got any experience of this?


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No ques,easy to get a taxi no unmet demand. :-$ :-$

Author:  jasbar [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:52 pm ]
Post subject: 

So, why the taxi marshalls? They're employed at anti-social periods, at some expense, to handle and control the queues you say don't exist?

And those who have walked across town, half way home, before they can hail a taxi don't consider this a difficulty? That's half a job lost to our trade. It mounts up to a lot of lost work.

And the jobs lost by the radio companies, as they drop off their data systems, which they admit to? That's not lost work either?

But of course, the corrupt council contrived the minutest "survey" to "prove" no unmet demand exists :lol: :lol: :lol:

Conveniently believed by saf of course. Just like the tooth fairy :lol: :lol:

Author:  saf [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:40 pm ]
Post subject: 

jasbar wrote:
So, why the taxi marshalls? They're employed at anti-social periods, at some expense, to handle and control the queues you say don't exist?

And those who have walked across town, half way home, before they can hail a taxi don't consider this a difficulty? That's half a job lost to our trade. It mounts up to a lot of lost work.

And the jobs lost by the radio companies, as they drop off their data systems, which they admit to? That's not lost work either?

But of course, the corrupt council contrived the minutest "survey" to "prove" no unmet demand exists :lol: :lol: :lol:

Conveniently believed by saf of course. Just like the tooth fairy :lol: :lol:


When was the last time you saw the marshals Jim and i did say marshals. :wink:
I don't think they walk "half way home" Jim,maybe round the corner but the days of walking "half way home" are long gone and you know it. :roll:
NO UNMET DEMAND......... :wink:

Author:  jasbar [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:22 pm ]
Post subject: 

saf wrote:
jasbar wrote:
So, why the taxi marshalls? They're employed at anti-social periods, at some expense, to handle and control the queues you say don't exist?

And those who have walked across town, half way home, before they can hail a taxi don't consider this a difficulty? That's half a job lost to our trade. It mounts up to a lot of lost work.

And the jobs lost by the radio companies, as they drop off their data systems, which they admit to? That's not lost work either?

But of course, the corrupt council contrived the minutest "survey" to "prove" no unmet demand exists :lol: :lol: :lol:

Conveniently believed by saf of course. Just like the tooth fairy :lol: :lol:


When was the last time you saw the marshals Jim and i did say marshals. :wink:
I don't think they walk "half way home" Jim,maybe round the corner but the days of walking "half way home" are long gone and you know it. :roll:
NO UNMET DEMAND......... :wink:


Do you ever open your eyes saf, or ever talk to your passengers?

Or does your blinkered world put you on a higher plane than them?

Try not to inhale the smoke saf, then you won't be so affected by it :lol:

Author:  Ross [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:44 pm ]
Post subject: 

Tell me Mr Taylor, when your standing in a queue at the bar waiting to by a drink, does the licencee put on an extra bar person ?

Author:  Sussex [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:07 pm ]
Post subject: 

Ross wrote:
Tell me Mr Taylor, when your standing in a queue at the bar waiting to by a drink, does the licencee put on an extra bar person?

If there were a queue, then the licensee would be very daft indeed if he said he wasn't going to employ any more staff because there is no SUD. :-$

Author:  Ross [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:31 pm ]
Post subject: 

Quote:
If there were a queue, then the licensee would be very daft indeed if he said he wasn't going to employ any more staff because there is no SUD.


But the bar trade is similiar to the taxi trade busy at certain times quiet other times ! How many bars on a Fri/Sat do you go into an get served right away ?
Lets look at it another way, How many times have you been taken at your appointed time at the doctors ? And remember there's a peoples charter thats supposed to be adhered too .
Lets take it one step further, can you get an appointment that suits you on the same day you phone ?

Author:  Skull [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:23 pm ]
Post subject: 

Ross wrote:
Quote:
If there were a queue, then the licensee would be very daft indeed if he said he wasn't going to employ any more staff because there is no SUD.


But the bar trade is similiar to the taxi trade busy at certain times quiet other times ! How many bars on a Fri/Sat do you go into an get served right away ?
Lets look at it another way, How many times have you been taken at your appointed time at the doctors ? And remember there's a peoples charter thats supposed to be adhered too .
Lets take it one step further, can you get an appointment that suits you on the same day you phone ?


How many bars do you see sitting on ranks or driving around the streets?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Author:  saf [ Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:59 am ]
Post subject: 

jasbar wrote:
saf wrote:
jasbar wrote:
So, why the taxi marshalls? They're employed at anti-social periods, at some expense, to handle and control the queues you say don't exist?

And those who have walked across town, half way home, before they can hail a taxi don't consider this a difficulty? That's half a job lost to our trade. It mounts up to a lot of lost work.

And the jobs lost by the radio companies, as they drop off their data systems, which they admit to? That's not lost work either?

But of course, the corrupt council contrived the minutest "survey" to "prove" no unmet demand exists :lol: :lol: :lol:

Conveniently believed by saf of course. Just like the tooth fairy :lol: :lol:


When was the last time you saw the marshals Jim and i did say marshals. :wink:
I don't think they walk "half way home" Jim,maybe round the corner but the days of walking "half way home" are long gone and you know it. :roll:
NO UNMET DEMAND......... :wink:


Do you ever open your eyes saf, or ever talk to your passengers?

Or does your blinkered world put you on a higher plane than them?

Try not to inhale the smoke saf, then you won't be so affected by it :lol:


You obviously don't Jim,you know for a fact what i say is true.
Do you never get passengers saying to you that the "towns quite tonight"?
You keep going on about people looking for taxi's and can't find one,why then do we see you sitting on the Frederick st and Gayfield every night Jim,surely if you drive about you will pick up all these people. :roll:
NO UNMET DEMAND..FACT. ](*,)

Author:  saf [ Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:03 am ]
Post subject: 

saf wrote:
jasbar wrote:
saf wrote:
jasbar wrote:
So, why the taxi marshalls? They're employed at anti-social periods, at some expense, to handle and control the queues you say don't exist?

And those who have walked across town, half way home, before they can hail a taxi don't consider this a difficulty? That's half a job lost to our trade. It mounts up to a lot of lost work.

And the jobs lost by the radio companies, as they drop off their data systems, which they admit to? That's not lost work either?

But of course, the corrupt council contrived the minutest "survey" to "prove" no unmet demand exists :lol: :lol: :lol:

Conveniently believed by saf of course. Just like the tooth fairy :lol: :lol:


When was the last time you saw the marshals Jim and i did say marshals. :wink:
I don't think they walk "half way home" Jim,maybe round the corner but the days of walking "half way home" are long gone and you know it. :roll:
NO UNMET DEMAND......... :wink:


Do you ever open your eyes saf, or ever talk to your passengers?

Or does your blinkered world put you on a higher plane than them?

Try not to inhale the smoke saf, then you won't be so affected by it :lol:


You obviously don't Jim,you know for a fact what i say is true.
Do you never get passengers saying to you that the "towns quite tonight"?
You keep going on about people looking for taxi's and can't find one,why then do we see you sitting on the Frederick st and Gayfield every night Jim,surely if you drive about you will pick up all these people. :roll:
NO UNMET DEMAND..FACT. ](*,)[/quot

That was supposed to be "quiet",can't have Ali picking me up on spelling mistakes. :oops:

Author:  jasbar [ Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:16 pm ]
Post subject: 

Yeah punters are quite happy to walk in the pashing rain or freezing cold while looking for a cab just so you get your 50 grand plate value :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The langoliers are coming saft brain.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Greedo inconsiderate you will get what's coming to you. Enjoy simple one.

:lol:

Author:  saf [ Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:29 am ]
Post subject: 

jasbar wrote:
Yeah punters are quite happy to walk in the pashing rain or freezing cold while looking for a cab just so you get your 50 grand plate value :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The langoliers are coming saft brain.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Greedo inconsiderate you will get what's coming to you. Enjoy simple one.

:lol:


Not going to happen,have you not heard......NO UNMET DEMAND.
To stop all theses punters walking in the rain and being cold,why don't you get your ar*e of the rank and provide the poor public with a service.
Btw,plate taxi and position just sold for £66k,quality. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Author:  gusmac [ Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:19 pm ]
Post subject: 

saf wrote:
Btw,plate taxi and position just sold for £66k,quality.


Well that shows faith in your arguement. :shock:

What makes this ok for you and not Ali T? :?

Author:  ALI T [ Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:55 pm ]
Post subject: 

gusmac wrote:
saf wrote:
Btw,plate taxi and position just sold for £66k,quality.


Well that shows faith in your arguement. :shock:

What makes this ok for you and not Ali T? :?

well he never really believed in his argument, thats all .
what he and the rest of them them lot were doing is protecting thier vested intrests.
in simple terms its basic dishonesty :lol:

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