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Author:  thomasthetaxi [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:59 am ]
Post subject:  Scots, Scotch and Scottishness

Using the word British is as offensive as calling someone a negro or a spastic, a former minister has declared.
The term should be banned as it offends people from Scotland, Wales and Ireland, according to disgraced ex-Welsh secretary Ron Davies.

Ethnic minorities should be referred to using terms such as Chinese British or British Asians.
The guidelines are contained in a leaflet compiled by the Welsh Valleys Race Equality Council, which Mr Davies heads.

The leaflet was handed to 9,000 workers in Caerphilly, south Wales, and warns that 'the idea of British implies a false sense of unity'.

Personally, being of Welsh descent on my fathers side and Scottish descent on my mother's side I couldn't give a fig what I'm called.
But I have never been able to understand why the Scots go mad when you refer to them as Scotch. I do realise it is a drink, but it can only be called Scotch if it comes from Scotland, otherwise its called Whiskey.
Is it alright to call the drunks under the cash machines in Charing Cross Road Scotch? there full of drink. Mind you its normally special brew not whiskey.
Perhaps some of the cabbies from up over the boarder can enlighten me.

Author:  bloodnock [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Scots, Scotch and Scottishness

thomasthetaxi wrote:
Using the word British is as offensive as calling someone a negro or a spastic, a former minister has declared.
The term should be banned as it offends people from Scotland, Wales and Ireland, according to disgraced ex-Welsh secretary Ron Davies.

Ethnic minorities should be referred to using terms such as Chinese British or British Asians.
The guidelines are contained in a leaflet compiled by the Welsh Valleys Race Equality Council, which Mr Davies heads.

The leaflet was handed to 9,000 workers in Caerphilly, south Wales, and warns that 'the idea of British implies a false sense of unity'.

Personally, being of Welsh descent on my fathers side and Scottish descent on my mother's side I couldn't give a fig what I'm called.
But I have never been able to understand why the Scots go mad when you refer to them as Scotch. I do realise it is a drink, but it can only be called Scotch if it comes from Scotland, otherwise its called Whiskey.
Is it alright to call the drunks under the cash machines in Charing Cross Road Scotch? there full of drink. Mind you its normally special brew not whiskey.
Perhaps some of the cabbies from up over the boarder can enlighten me.


Im Quite happy to be called Scotch....or even Brititch...but not Englitch... :wink:

Author:  GBC [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:03 pm ]
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What's a 'boarder'? :D

Author:  thomasthetaxi [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:35 pm ]
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GBC wrote:
What's a 'boarder'? :D


I realise my spelling isn't up to much, so now I do try to check, as you are always stalking me.
I used these web pages,
http://www.clarebooks.co.uk/item12742.htm
http://www.psychicdirectory.co.uk/psych ... arders.htm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/saxman1597/2975666808/ perhaps you should tell saxman 1597 that he has made an error. Better still you could spend the rest of your life dedicated to ridding the Internet of bad spelling and grammar

Boarder does not come up as wrong on any spell checker as it is a proper word. But it has been misused in all these cases, It seems quite common for the word to be miss spelt so, I thank you for the English lesson but I wouldn't lose any sleep worrying about it.


I do have a sense of humour, but this was a genuine enquiry, I was expecting a reasonable answer from at least one person! although i did enjoy the answer from Mr bloodnock. Now that was funny :lol: :lol:

Author:  GBC [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:45 pm ]
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thomasthetaxi wrote:
I do have a sense of humour


So I noticed with your dancing style Clive. :wink:

Author:  thomasthetaxi [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:51 pm ]
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GBC wrote:
thomasthetaxi wrote:
I do have a sense of humour


So I noticed with your dancing style Clive. :wink:

I dont want to shatter your illusion but I was never on screen in the video I just take the pictures!
I havn't got the looks for films.

Author:  gusmac [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:22 pm ]
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Most of the world has a problem distinguishing "British" and "English", including many of the English. :shock:

We are not and do not want to be seen as English. 8)

Author:  GBC [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:50 pm ]
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thomasthetaxi wrote:
I dont want to shatter your illusion but I was never on screen in the video I just take the pictures!
I havn't got the looks for films.



You were, and you know you were, and I think that's what's bothering you, I know everything about you, and you know jack about me.

Perhaps you have a twin who eats at the Royal Oak?

You should be more careful. :wink:

There are other photo's from that little QPR bash posted elsewhere on the web, I might adopt 'you' as my avatar.

Author:  skippy41 [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:53 pm ]
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thomasthetaxi wrote:
GBC wrote:
thomasthetaxi wrote:
I do have a sense of humour


So I noticed with your dancing style Clive. :wink:

I dont want to shatter your illusion but I was never on screen in the video I just take the pictures!
I havn't got the looks for films.


Oh one of many guises why are you hiding on the Scottish section and your spelling is cr@p as you dont have the sense to install the google spell checker
has GBC found you yet :lol: :lol:

Author:  skippy41 [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:55 pm ]
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Looks like he has :lol: :lol: :lol: :D

Author:  thomasthetaxi [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:48 pm ]
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GBC wrote:


I think that's what's bothering you, I know everything about you, and you know jack about me.



Do you realy think I would like to take up my time looking for stuff about you?
Your the stalker thats what you do.

Author:  GBC [ Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:00 am ]
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thomasthetaxi wrote:
Do you realy think I would like to take up my time looking for stuff about you?

Your the stalker thats what you do.




'Your' as in the possessive sense? Or 'You're' as in you are?

So by your definition, anyone who answers another contributors post is 'stalking' them? :?

Nobody has to look for information about you Mr Dunn, you post it all over the internet and You Tube, it’s almost as if you want people to find it. Does it make you feel important? Do you wish you were someone famous, opposed to Mr Bitter from Wembley? :D

You're (not your) a few pence short of a pound Clive, but we already knew that, didn’t we?

Author:  GBC [ Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:10 am ]
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skippy41 wrote:
Oh one of many guises why are you hiding on the Scottish section



Mr A makes it up we go along.

Suddenly he's half Scottish, a while back he was 100% English, and then we had the half Welsh period.

Then we had the 'I hate all trade bodies' now it's 'I'm a member again' then it was 'I'm off to Australia' now it's his alter ego that's off to Australia, but back at Christmas.

Just read his 'blog' if you can call it a blog, it's one rant after another, he dislikes everyone who has a say in how the London taxi trade is run, not only does he have the taxisite, he's got another one which attacks some woman from the local council because his bins weren’t emptied on time 3 years ago!.

:D

Author:  jasbar [ Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:48 pm ]
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I don't care if people call me Scotch. I just wouldn't respond to it, unless it was a blatant attempt at humour of course.

"Fancy a British Chinese tonight my dear?

I'm away down to the British Asian's, do you want anything while I'm there?

"Although Mr Gupta in the corner shop is a British Indian, his father is a Ugandan Indian, his brother is a domiciled Canadian Indian while his sister, who is at university in Mumbai, remains an Indian Indian."

"Fort Apache is a film about non-native Americans waging war against Native Americans"

"Uluru is a place of spiritual significance to Indigenous Australians"

Doesn't have the same ring to it does it?

My uncle who lives in England was always known as Jock. How could he take offence at that? Or anyone called Taffy? Or Mick? Aren't they all terms of endearment?

When I used to use the term "chinky", it was a reference to a fast food type, not the person owning or serving in the takeaway.

Same with the word "[edited by admin]". This wasn't intended as any slight on any individual, just a term that became a reference for a retail outlet. Now, I understand that a Bangladeshi may not want to be associated as a Pakistani, but that has everything to do with any age old friction between the two nations, rather than any intended slight by the utterer.

Anyway, because of sensitivity to these people I desist from using the terms now, but it really is PC gone mad.

Same with the Gaelic language. It is the language of the Gaels. But the scottish clique dont say "Gaylic", the say "Gaalic". Why? because they want to encourage their own identity as different?

Yet, I would consider "Gaalic" as referring to matters French. So what are the Scottish Gaels on? Difference for difference sake? An Identity crisis?

One word can have many connotations. That may not be perfect. But it is the way it is.

Take the C... word as an example.

It can mean anything from female genitalia, making a mess of something, acting like a disreputable person - saf for instance, or even, as is widely used everyday, a term of endearment - Aye, see him, he's good c...

You can't give offence, you can only take it. And, in modern PC Britain today, aren't we all too ready to take offence.

Author:  saf [ Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:56 pm ]
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jasbar wrote:
I don't care if people call me Scotch. I just wouldn't respond to it, unless it was a blatant attempt at humour of course.

"Fancy a British Chinese tonight my dear?

I'm away down to the British Asian's, do you want anything while I'm there?

"Although Mr Gupta in the corner shop is a British Indian, his father is a Ugandan Indian, his brother is a domiciled Canadian Indian while his sister, who is at university in Mumbai, remains an Indian Indian."

"Fort Apache is a film about non-native Americans waging war against Native Americans"

"Uluru is a place of spiritual significance to Indigenous Australians"

Doesn't have the same ring to it does it?

My uncle who lives in England was always known as Jock. How could he take offence at that? Or anyone called Taffy? Or Mick? Aren't they all terms of endearment?

When I used to use the term "chinky", it was a reference to a fast food type, not the person owning or serving in the takeaway.

Same with the word "[edited by admin]". This wasn't intended as any slight on any individual, just a term that became a reference for a retail outlet. Now, I understand that a Bangladeshi may not want to be associated as a Pakistani, but that has everything to do with any age old friction between the two nations, rather than any intended slight by the utterer.

Anyway, because of sensitivity to these people I desist from using the terms now, but it really is PC gone mad.

Same with the Gaelic language. It is the language of the Gaels. But the scottish clique dont say "Gaylic", the say "Gaalic". Why? because they want to encourage their own identity as different?

Yet, I would consider "Gaalic" as referring to matters French. So what are the Scottish Gaels on? Difference for difference sake? An Identity crisis?

One word can have many connotations. That may not be perfect. But it is the way it is.

Take the C... word as an example.

It can mean anything from female genitalia, making a mess of something, acting like a disreputable person - saf for instance, or even, as is widely used everyday, a term of endearment - Aye, see him, he's good c...

You can't give offence, you can only take it. And, in modern PC Britain today, aren't we all too ready to take offence.


You have been reffered to as a right female genitalia,also people have often said,"im going to kick his female genitalia in"or have you heard that they two silly female genitalias have put another appeal in but one thing is for sure you have never been called a good female genitalia. :shock:
Ps whats the number? :D

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