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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:20 am 
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having said that politics have gone so far to the right it needs a correction,

You are having a laugh. The position for the last few years has been that the Tories, Libdems and Labour are all in the centre. There is no left wing or right wing anymore. Which is why the election results are so close. UKIP were more to the right than the Tories and look where it got them.


By far right it encompasses many facets, how about the pandering to the elite and the financial suppression of the masses?


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I repeat: All else has failed, perhaps I should elaborate........."For the electorate and the general population".

What do you see, that I do not?



You have gone AWOL on that one?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:24 pm 
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having said that politics have gone so far to the right it needs a correction,

You are having a laugh. The position for the last few years has been that the Tories, Libdems and Labour are all in the centre. There is no left wing or right wing anymore. Which is why the election results are so close. UKIP were more to the right than the Tories and look where it got them.


By far right it encompasses many facets, how about the pandering to the elite and the financial suppression of the masses?


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I repeat: All else has failed, perhaps I should elaborate........."For the electorate and the general population".

What do you see, that I do not?



You have gone AWOL on that one?

Around here I see very low unemployment, an economy that is on the up, We are getting aroud double the number of calls per month than we were getting 12 months ago and our drivers are earning more money. What's not to like?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:41 pm 
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So Arsenals MP and supporter gets the Job hardly surprising :badgrin: :badgrin:

Labour under Jezza will flourish because he will force DEBATE and discussion on this Tory Vermins attacks upon the innocent and the Blairite quislings betrayal's

Looks good to me =D> =D> =D>



When he said "he's going to protest with the refugees" is when he lost the little credibility he had left. The man is a fuckin idiot Trots.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:20 pm 
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Grandad you are being a very naughty boy, it seems that you are acting like a politician and picking out the bits that you only want to see.........

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Putting your area to one side as I am talking about the country as a whole,


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Around here I see very low unemployment, an economy that is on the up, We are getting aroud double the number of calls per month than we were getting 12 months ago and our drivers are earning more money. What's not to like?


Give it another go and try answering the question properly :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:47 pm 
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So Arsenals MP and supporter gets the Job hardly surprising :badgrin: :badgrin:

Labour under Jezza will flourish because he will force DEBATE and discussion on this Tory Vermins attacks upon the innocent and the Blairite quislings betrayal's

Looks good to me =D> =D> =D>



When he said "he's going to protest with the refugees" is when he lost the little credibility he had left. The man is a fuckin idiot Trots.


Whether you like him or loath him, protesting with war torn refugees is a million times different than protesting with an every day immigrant, he wears his heart on his sleeve, no wah wah wah there. Would you have called Tony Benn the same? he was not a lot different.


Every now and again, we actually get someone from a rich privileged back ground batting for the every day person, so do not knock that position/help as we are all generally getting/being shafted and need that imperfect persons help. It is now 7 years on from the supposed recession - what do you see getting better? What is so great out there that you choose to spurn change? also bearing in mind he will not get all that he wants.

Also take on board that a little bit of eccentricity along the way from many a great man/woman has done a lot of good - I will take that, as smart suits and legal gangsters, are screwing us over and over.

In a game of football if the tactics are not working then you try another route, if that does not work then try another, if that does not work and you have to win ugly....then ugly it will be - as no one wants to be a loser, at the moment we are losers, it is time for other tactics as sticking with what you have is not working for the general population/team GB.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:27 pm 
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So Arsenals MP and supporter gets the Job hardly surprising :badgrin: :badgrin:

Labour under Jezza will flourish because he will force DEBATE and discussion on this Tory Vermins attacks upon the innocent and the Blairite quislings betrayal's

Looks good to me =D> =D> =D>



When he said "he's going to protest with the refugees" is when he lost the little credibility he had left. The man is a fuckin idiot Trots.


Whether you like him or loath him, protesting with war torn refugees is a million times different than protesting with an every day immigrant, he wears his heart on his sleeve, no wah wah wah there. Would you have called Tony Benn the same? he was not a lot different.


Every now and again, we actually get someone from a rich privileged back ground batting for the every day person, so do not knock that position/help as we are all generally getting/being shafted and need that imperfect persons help. It is now 7 years on from the supposed recession - what do you see getting better? What is so great out there that you choose to spurn change? also bearing in mind he will not get all that he wants.

Also take on board that a little bit of eccentricity along the way from many a great man/woman has done a lot of good - I will take that, as smart suits and legal gangsters, are screwing us over and over.

In a game of football if the tactics are not working then you try another route, if that does not work then try another, if that does not work and you have to win ugly....then ugly it will be - as no one wants to be a loser, at the moment we are losers, it is time for other tactics as sticking with what you have is not working for the general population/team GB.


Friend of Hamas, Friend of Hezbollah, Friend of the IRA, Virtually never accepted the Labour Whip. Probably voted in by the masses of the Socialist Workers Party paying £3 to become Labour Supporters to get the vote. To quote Rev'd Ian Paisley, "NEVER, NEVER, NEVER ...."

I'll still vote for UKIP even more now with him in charge.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:20 pm 
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Cabby John 1 wrote:
Grandad you are being a very naughty boy, it seems that you are acting like a politician and picking out the bits that you only want to see.........

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Putting your area to one side as I am talking about the country as a whole,


You posted........

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Around here I see very low unemployment, an economy that is on the up, We are getting aroud double the number of calls per month than we were getting 12 months ago and our drivers are earning more money. What's not to like?


Give it another go and try answering the question properly :wink:

I only see what is around here. The rest is on the news and they seem to be saying that things are getting better.

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trotskys twin wrote:
So Arsenals MP and supporter gets the Job hardly surprising :badgrin: :badgrin:

Labour under Jezza will flourish because he will force DEBATE and discussion on this Tory Vermins attacks upon the innocent and the Blairite quislings betrayal's

Looks good to me =D> =D> =D>


It'll be a Mass-Debate with that W#anker

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:41 pm 
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grandad wrote:
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Grandad you are being a very naughty boy, it seems that you are acting like a politician and picking out the bits that you only want to see.........

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Putting your area to one side as I am talking about the country as a whole,


You posted........

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Around here I see very low unemployment, an economy that is on the up, We are getting aroud double the number of calls per month than we were getting 12 months ago and our drivers are earning more money. What's not to like?


Give it another go and try answering the question properly :wink:

I only see what is around here. The rest is on the news and they seem to be saying that things are getting better.


You need to get out a bit more.........https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... L555EuV7XQ

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Its democracy - the most popular candidate won - and whilst I didn't vote for him - as I previously stated, he's a far better alternative than the person and party currently running the country.

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Cabby John 1 wrote:

In a game of football if the tactics are not working then you try another route, if that does not work then try another, if that does not work and you have to win ugly....then ugly it will be - as no one wants to be a loser, at the moment we are losers, it is time for other tactics as sticking with what you have is not working for the general population/team GB.

Interesting analogy. In football, if the tactics don't work they change the manager, which is what Labour have done, and when the new manager does not get the results that the club are looking for, they will change the manager again.

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grandad wrote:
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In a game of football if the tactics are not working then you try another route, if that does not work then try another, if that does not work and you have to win ugly....then ugly it will be - as no one wants to be a loser, at the moment we are losers, it is time for other tactics as sticking with what you have is not working for the general population/team GB.

Interesting analogy. In football, if the tactics don't work they change the manager, which is what Labour have done, and when the new manager does not get the results that the club are looking for, they will change the manager again.


But not before 2020. And by that time Corybin will be geography.

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The Tories have been through exactly what Labour are going through at the moment. When John major lost to Tony Blair he was replaces first by William Haig (too young) then Iain Duncan Smith (too bald) and Michael Howard (not up to it) before settling on David Cameron. Labour have tried Ed milliband (stabbed his brother in the back) and now Jeremy Corbyn (un-electable due to having a beard) So they have another couple of leaders to get through before they will find the "chosen one". Corbyn may appeal to Labour party members but I doubt that he will appeal to the Labour party voters unless he changes some of his policies to be more middle of the road than left wing. I can't see the majority of the British public going along with the shadow cabinet minister who want to honour members of the IRA. TT may like that idea though. That kind of policy will be about as welcome as a fart in a lift.

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Interesting analogy. In football, if the tactics don't work they change the manager, which is what Labour have done, and when the new manager does not get the results that the club are looking for, they will change the manager again.


We all have different thoughts! However I think that you will find that even in the cut throat world of football, they will try numerous formations/tactics before the manager goes. Having said that in most cases they do not get 5 years to turn things around. In Dodgy Dave's case it will be 10 years, and it will still be f%c^ed up.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:31 am 
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Cabby John 1 wrote:
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Interesting analogy. In football, if the tactics don't work they change the manager, which is what Labour have done, and when the new manager does not get the results that the club are looking for, they will change the manager again.


We all have different thoughts! However I think that you will find that even in the cut throat world of football, they will try numerous formations/tactics before the manager goes. Having said that in most cases they do not get 5 years to turn things around. In Dodgy Dave's case it will be 10 years, and it will still be f%c^ed up.

in your opinion, when was the last time that it wasn't f****d up?

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