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Oh and Gusmac, in truth, you cannot debate with someone of religious faith because they do not require a shred of evidence for what they believe, and that's what makes them so dangerous. It doesn't take much to turn a "peace-loving" religious nut into a radical religious nut. So be careful what you wish for...

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No, you want the state to do it for you.


You just thought you'd get in on the act?


Disagree completely.


Or happen to be related to or are friends with someone that you describe above?


Killing people for vengeance is fine, so long as it's not in the name of atheism?


Do either of them advocate lynchings or forced deportations?


The fake moral outrage is yours, not mine.
You are the one who goes on and on about your rights, corrupt politicians, bent cops, crooked lawyers and an establishment that cannot be trusted. Yet you would cheerfully deliver a couple of thousand people to the gallows and deport a couple of million, based on evidence gathered by the likes of MI5 and other instruments of that very same establishment.

Skull you're full of sh*t. Your stance on this just makes a mockery of everything else you've spouted on here.

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I see you are back to your yahboo childish replies. Grow up son. You think no different from me, except you lack the balls to say it. Oh and Gus, your above reply was pathetic, "must try harder."

Oh and Gusmac, you are not pursuing this debate out of support for any ethnic or religious minorities. It's simply because you think that by becoming an apologist, and feigning moral outrage, this gives your argument some sort of legitimacy. When the truth is, you don't give a sh*t, and you don't want Islam in this country anymore than I do, if that means extremism has any part to play in it. So spare me the bull and find an opinion you actually believe has some merit.

Oh and Gusmac, in truth, you cannot debate with someone of religious faith because they do not require a shred of evidence for what they believe, and that's what makes them so dangerous. It doesn't take much to turn a "peace-loving" religious nut into a radical religious nut. So be careful what you wish for...

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Fekking erse. Dont judge me by your own double standards.

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BTW you're the one with no balls. Joining the lynch mob is easy. Sticking to your principles is the hard bit. You failed.

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I'm judging you by the future bodies of young soldiers, hacked up in the streets in the name of Islam.

The solution can only come from inside the Islamic religion itself, and it's the same with all religions.

Now grow up!!

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Complete sh*t . You are using an outragous act to justify the persecution of a minority that you believe you are superior to.

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This outrageous act is only one of many, and they are not going to stop anytime in the future. So, tell me Gusmac, how man young soldiers hacked to death on our streets, is the acceptable price for tolerating Islam in this country? Where do we draw the line?

Oh and if these Islamic extremists turned their attention to hacking up councillors, MPs or even MSPs Islam would be deported from this country almost overnight.

So spare me the false moral outrage and for once develop an opinion for yourself, and say what has to be said.

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I used to respect your views Skull, even when I didn't agree with them. This is different.
It's completely contrary to everything you've posted before.
Now you're cynically trying to exploit this poor squaddie's death. What is it Skull? You see which way the wind is blowing and decide this was your chance to incite that revolution you've always wanted? or are you basically just a racist pri*k at heart?
Your fake moral outrage is couched in the sort of emotive language that would have made Goebbels blush. You are playing to the gallery.
Maybe you're telling the sheeple what they want to hear? Hoping to ride their outrage all the way to the top?
You've gone over to the dark side, Skull. Maybe you were there all along and I just never noticed.

That opinion enough for you Skull?

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Oh and you're an ersehole as well.
Go forth and multiply.

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This outrageous act is only one of many, and they are not going to stop anytime in the future. So, tell me Gusmac, how man young soldiers hacked to death on our streets, is the acceptable price for tolerating Islam in this country? Where do we draw the line?



Stop apologising and answer the questions and remember, I have a son in the RAF, who is three years younger than Lee Rigby. Oh and he's due to arrive in Afghanistan on the 14th October 2013, so I think I have a little more invested in this situation than you.

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Yes, one of many outrageous acts. Most committed in foreign lands, some by very white British and American atheists. I don't see you getting all frothy-mouthed about that though.



More of that emotive stuff, eh Skull? You're not the only one with family in the forces, so spare me the bullsh*t.

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Maybe if this country hadn't spent the last twelve years sending our kids to Afghanistan or places like it, we wouldn't be having this argument.

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You are a fu*king Scumbag Gusmac.

And you know I am against British and American foreign policy. However, you would use the same argument, as those extremists who killed Lee Rigby, to justify the future killing of young soldiers on British streets?

Are you having a fu*king laugh?

You are a fu*king disgrace.

So your answer to my question, is that you don't care how many Soldiers get killed on UK Streets by religious fanatics, it's just the price we have to pay for our foreign policy, and we, the people, should tolerate it.

I hope some of your chums in Aberdeen are reading your views, Gusmac. You are the lowest of the low...

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Skull, poor sods like Lee Rigby have been coming home in body bags for years from places like Afghanistan. Mostly without the British public even noticing, let alone giving a sh*t. They barely rate a mention in the papers, let alone the news. It's different for those of us with family in the forces. We do notice, and we do care.
Britain meanwhile keeps voting in the same scumbags who started all this and keep it going.
Half the armchair heroes of Britain are in a frenzy because of what? A vile murder happened on the streets of London. Truth is, if this had happened in Helmund province, nobody would have heard about it.
Now you want to daemonise an entire religion for the actions of a handful of people. That's going to cause a lot more trouble than it will ever solve.
Where does it stop? Should we all go round to our local curry house and string up the staff??? What about that shifty looking bloke in the paper shop??? My Doctor is a muslim, should we kill him too?
What about the postie? He looks like a muslim but I'm not actually sure?? Should we ask him first or just string him up to be on the safe side?

You opposed British and American foreign policy. So did most of us but that didn't matter a feck, and it still doesn't. Young lads just like Lee will continue coming home in body bags until this country stops interfering in wars that have nothing to do with us.
Declaring war on our neighbours is not going to achieve anything, except maybe create more radicals and more deaths on our streets.
Is that really what you want?

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