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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:15 pm 
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Phone canvassing is a standard procedure at all elections so why would the referendum be any different?


Firstly, this was a referendum, not an election.
Secondly, why call upon trade unionists from London or anywhere else outside Scotland if, as we were constantly reminded, it was a matter for Scotland? Not least by the Prime Minister himself.
Thirdly, canvassing is one thing, deliberately targeting the oldest people in society and scaring them shitless with downright lies is quite another.

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gusmac wrote:
grandad wrote:
Phone canvassing is a standard procedure at all elections so why would the referendum be any different?


Firstly, this was a referendum, not an election.
Secondly, why call upon trade unionists from London or anywhere else outside Scotland if, as we were constantly reminded, it was a matter for Scotland? Not least by the Prime Minister himself.
Thirdly, canvassing is one thing, deliberately targeting the oldest people in society and scaring them shitless with downright lies is quite another.


I agree there was a lot of dirty tactics but saying that Salmond should have seen it coming. :-|

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Secondly, why call upon trade unionists from London or anywhere else outside Scotland if, as we were constantly reminded, it was a matter for Scotland? Not least by the Prime Minister himself.
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then why mention tory rule - if it was a matter for Scotland?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:11 pm 
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grandad wrote:
Secondly, why call upon trade unionists from London or anywhere else outside Scotland if, as we were constantly reminded, it was a matter for Scotland? Not least by the Prime Minister himself.
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then why mention tory rule - if it was a matter for Scotland?

Oi! Get the quotes right. That was not my quote.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:20 pm 
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Secondly, why call upon trade unionists from London or anywhere else outside Scotland if, as we were constantly reminded, it was a matter for Scotland? Not least by the Prime Minister himself.
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then why mention tory rule - if it was a matter for Scotland?


Because the Tories do rule in Scotland, even though we don't vote for them. #-o

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gusmac wrote:
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gusmac wrote:
Secondly, why call upon trade unionists from London or anywhere else outside Scotland if, as we were constantly reminded, it was a matter for Scotland? Not least by the Prime Minister himself.
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then why mention tory rule - if it was a matter for Scotland?


Because the Tories do rule in Scotland, even though we don't vote for them. #-o


but I didn't vote for them either, they still rule me :shock:

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then why mention tory rule - if it was a matter for Scotland?


Because the Tories do rule in Scotland, even though we don't vote for them. #-o


but I didn't vote for them either, they still rule me :shock:


You cast doubt on whether Tory rule is a Scottish matter. It clearly is.
Who you vote for or who rules where you live is not a Scottish matter. If you are unhappy with current arrangements, you do something about it.

Unless of course you think a misery shared is a misery halved? :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:04 am 
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gusmac wrote:
grandad wrote:
Phone canvassing is a standard procedure at all elections so why would the referendum be any different?


Firstly, this was a referendum, not an election.
Secondly, why call upon trade unionists from London or anywhere else outside Scotland if, as we were constantly reminded, it was a matter for Scotland? Not least by the Prime Minister himself.
Thirdly, canvassing is one thing, deliberately targeting the oldest people in society and scaring them shitless with downright lies is quite another.


Its your lot spouting the utter shite and only the gullible are daft enough to believe it..you lot were trounced hands down by 55 to 45 yet even in defeat you cant even be gracious to accept the majority vote or even why they voted as they did, simply put the majority could see what 45% of the voters failed to see..get over it, you had your chance and blew it.

Had it been the other way round nothing would have been said, everything would have been just fine and legitimate and hunky-dory..

Regardless of age the majority won as did democracy..sadly democracy means nowt as far as the SNP/indys goes, 45% and they think they won a victory. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:21 pm 
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As I said, don't let the facts get in your way. You rarely ever do :lol:

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The above is from data collected by the Tory Lord Ashcroft. http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2014/09/scotland-voted/

Just sleep soundly under your Union Jack duvet, secure in the knowledge that the union's staunchest supporters are mostly over 55 and most of those over 65.

With the average life expectancy for people in some parts of Scotland as low as 54, I wonder how many will still be around next time :badgrin:

BTW, it would be nice to see you back up your assertions with some evidence. Or should everyone just take your word for it? #-o

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45% is DEFINITELY a victory for SNP and Yes Campaign, an astonishing victory in fact. Traditional level of support for Independence has always been 30-35% - and so a 45% vote is a scare right up the backsides of the ever-lying Unionist Naw's.

The Naw campaign stands as a total disgrace, a mountain of lies, a fest of scare-mongering. They have lied on every single issue - jobs, pensions, defence, NHS, currency, oil - EVERYTHING. If they just came out with the truth about why they voted Naw I'd give them a little respect - but the LYING tells me they're up to no good, so I am going to clear them right off my parade.

This time a scare - next time they will be obliterated. It may only take ten years- something to look forward to!

Oil industry guy in my taxi the other night was telling me BILLIONS are currently being invested in North Sea Oil and Gas projects by massive companies, and these will last for probably a hundred years or more. So where do all the liars stand against that? Lying b****ds!

The Naw's are the true 'Separatists' - they live in Scotland but want to be 'associated' with England and London - that means separation of themselves from where they live and their national identity - it is us Yes supporters that want a Union - ie of Scotland itself - as one single cohesive and prosperous nation.

Let's do it!


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45% is DEFINITELY a victory for SNP and Yes Campaign
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The Naw campaign stands as a total disgrace, a mountain of lies

Ah Didnae get ma way, they auld yins dinnae like me so ahm in the cream puff #-o

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This time a scare - next time they will be obliterated. It may only take ten years- something to look forward to!

25 years mair like and by then the Oil will hae run dry and the only thing left in Scotland will be Foreign nationals, Eck in his retirement home and a few rusty auld wind turbines...and whaes gonna vote for that, Rob Roys missing sporran maybe?


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:09 pm 
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45% is DEFINITELY a victory for SNP and Yes Campaign, an astonishing victory in fact. Traditional level of support for Independence has always been 30-35% - and so a 45% vote is a scare right up the backsides of the ever-lying Unionist Naw's.

The Naw campaign stands as a total disgrace, a mountain of lies, a fest of scare-mongering. They have lied on every single issue - jobs, pensions, defence, NHS, currency, oil - EVERYTHING. If they just came out with the truth about why they voted Naw I'd give them a little respect - but the LYING tells me they're up to no good, so I am going to clear them right off my parade.

This time a scare - next time they will be obliterated. It may only take ten years- something to look forward to!

Oil industry guy in my taxi the other night was telling me BILLIONS are currently being invested in North Sea Oil and Gas projects by massive companies, and these will last for probably a hundred years or more. So where do all the liars stand against that? Lying b****ds!

The Naw's are the true 'Separatists' - they live in Scotland but want to be 'associated' with England and London - that means separation of themselves from where they live and their national identity -it is us Yes supporters that want a Union - ie of Scotland itself - as one single cohesive and prosperous nation.

Let's do it!


We Border Scots through our bloodline have as much if not more in common with our Northumbrian and Cumbrian neighbours than we do wi anybody north of the Forth or Clyde. however we are In Scotland and our vote still counts and it certainly did.


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BTW, it would be nice to see you back up your assertions with some evidence. Or should everyone just take your word for it? #-o


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:14 pm 
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As I said, don't let the facts get in your way. You rarely ever do :lol:

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The above is from data collected by the Tory Lord Ashcroft. http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2014/09/scotland-voted/

Just sleep soundly under your Union Jack duvet, secure in the knowledge that the union's staunchest supporters are mostly over 55 and most of those over 65.

With the average life expectancy for people in some parts of Scotland as low as 54, I wonder how many will still be around next time :badgrin:

BTW, it would be nice to see you back up your assertions with some evidence. Or should everyone just take your word for it? #-o


That polls guff...


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We Border Scots through our bloodline have as much if not more in common with our Northumbrian and Cumbrian neighbours than we do wi anybody north of the Forth or Clyde. however we are In Scotland and our vote still counts and it certainly did.


So are you already claiminr Europe's worst pension or have you still got a year or two to wait? :badgrin:

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