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 Post subject: Re: Idiocy
PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 8:33 pm 
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If you haven't noticed PR the tories have a majority and it matters not a f*ck what 56 seats say.


Now that's a "Win Win" situation aint it?



No not really CC. Not every SNP supporter is anti Tory/English. I am however a little disturbed the path my country is going down.

I agree with ending austerity but we also must end the benefit culture that some have chosen as a way of life.

The amusing thing is they all hate Cameron so much but he is from Scottish stock!

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I'll give you Idiocy Nidge :wink:

UKIP where the brainchild of the Tories :shock:

Put there to dilute the Labour vote :shock:

Mission accomplished :wink:

The Idiocy, the suckers like you who swallowed the fear that immigrants are to blame for all our Social ills, fact and double fact :wink:

Another fact, the establishment couldn't infiltrate Scotland, 56 seats, 50% of votes cast, 56 MPs all going down to Westminster on an anti austerity, anti trident and a save our NHS mission, just sit back and watch all hell break lose, just not in Scotland, why, we didn't swallow the fear :lol: :lol: :lol:



b*llocks

if UKIP were going to divide any vote it would be the vote of the right


They don't know their left from their right these jocks.


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 Post subject: Re: Idiocy
PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 8:38 pm 
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Artur and molshy wrote:
captain cab wrote:
Artur and molshy wrote:

If you haven't noticed PR the tories have a majority and it matters not a f*ck what 56 seats say.


Now that's a "Win Win" situation aint it?



No not really CC. Not every SNP supporter is anti Tory/English. I am however a little disturbed the path my country is going down.

I agree with ending austerity but we also must end the benefit culture that some have chosen as a way of life.

The amusing thing is they all hate Cameron so much but he is from Scottish stock!



The first thing he'll tackle is Child Tax Credits, he's been after binning that for a few years, it was Clegg who kept a tight reign on him.

Now he's not got the Lib Dems to contend with you watch him start the benefit cull, he'll also hit Child benefit making it two children only. I agree with cutting the benefits system because all over the country people are breeding kids for the money.


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 Post subject: Re: Idiocy
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Artur and molshy wrote:
captain cab wrote:
Artur and molshy wrote:

If you haven't noticed PR the tories have a majority and it matters not a f*ck what 56 seats say.


Now that's a "Win Win" situation aint it?



No not really CC. Not every SNP supporter is anti Tory/English. I am however a little disturbed the path my country is going down.

I agree with ending austerity but we also must end the benefit culture that some have chosen as a way of life.

The amusing thing is they all hate Cameron so much but he is from Scottish stock!


A&M

do you want a prediction?

from a little over 8 miles away in god's country it looks like the whole of Scotland despise the English - I'm only going there on Wednesday to relieve your financial doom and play golf :lol:

But it appears the nationalism, the yes voters, are using a predominantly anti English ethos or under laying tone - don't be embarrassed or ashamed - its expected - its colluded with by your Holyrood government but denied and sparingly reported.

I would suggest the press and media are in many parts more scrutinised for pro unionist comments than your elected government in relation to scrutiny over their performance - they are either quislings (when reporting poor government performance) or extremely well read (by those wanting indy).

To me Scotland will become independent within the next 10 years - it suits the controlling power in England - so there will be very little resistance.

And when it comes there will be an acrimonious divorce - it will involve Scotland's biggest trading nation shunning Scottish goods - and hatred.

That's a prediction btw

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 Post subject: Re: Idiocy
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The Tories like the SNP have a solid support, Labour under a weak leader where there for the taking, UKIP evolved from within the Tory party, fact, the Tories knew the damage to them would be minimal compared to the damage that would be done to Labour and the Lib Dems, the Tories accepted casualties because they knew the gains would be significant, an overall majority being the prize, the Tories put the fear of life into the English concerning the impact of the SNP whilst UKIP stuck to the blame the immigrants stance and also attacking the Barnett formula, they even called us pro-euro Scots racists :roll:

Here is one example of the UKIP vote acting to the benefit of the Tories :wink:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... s-election

The Tories and UKIP are too the right, Labour are Centre right and the Lib Dems are Centre but where in bed with the right, when you look at the overall percentages the Tory vote hardly moved but UKIPs went up, in the end they ended up with 1 seat whilst the Tories made enough gains to win an overall majority, the Tories have played a blinder in England, they've played you's all for fools :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Idiocy
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Private Reggie wrote:
The Tories like the SNP have a solid support, Labour under a weak leader where there for the taking, UKIP evolved from within the Tory party, fact, the Tories knew the damage to them would be minimal compared to the damage that would be done to Labour and the Lib Dems, the Tories accepted casualties because they knew the gains would be significant, an overall majority being the prize, the Tories put the fear of life into the English concerning the impact of the SNP whilst UKIP stuck to the blame the immigrants stance and also attacking the Barnett formula, they even called us pro-euro Scots racists :roll:

Here is one example of the UKIP vote acting to the benefit of the Tories :wink:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... s-election

The Tories and UKIP are too the right, Labour are Centre right and the Lib Dems are Centre but where in bed with the right, when you look at the overall percentages the Tory vote hardly moved but UKIPs went up, in the end they ended up with 1 seat whilst the Tories made enough gains to win an overall majority, the Tories have played a blinder in England, they've played you's all for fools :wink:



of course it doesn't factor in that UKIP maybe a protest vote?

or the fact that three times more people voted UKIP than for the SNP?

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 Post subject: Re: Idiocy
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The pace in which the Tories will act bringing in their Austerity measures will cause devastation amongst the poor leading to desperation, just watch crime figures rocket, those crimes will be committed against us the workers :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Idiocy
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captain cab wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
The Tories like the SNP have a solid support, Labour under a weak leader where there for the taking, UKIP evolved from within the Tory party, fact, the Tories knew the damage to them would be minimal compared to the damage that would be done to Labour and the Lib Dems, the Tories accepted casualties because they knew the gains would be significant, an overall majority being the prize, the Tories put the fear of life into the English concerning the impact of the SNP whilst UKIP stuck to the blame the immigrants stance and also attacking the Barnett formula, they even called us pro-euro Scots racists :roll:

Here is one example of the UKIP vote acting to the benefit of the Tories :wink:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... s-election

The Tories and UKIP are too the right, Labour are Centre right and the Lib Dems are Centre but where in bed with the right, when you look at the overall percentages the Tory vote hardly moved but UKIPs went up, in the end they ended up with 1 seat whilst the Tories made enough gains to win an overall majority, the Tories have played a blinder in England, they've played you's all for fools :wink:



of course it doesn't factor in that UKIP maybe a protest vote?

or the fact that three times more people voted UKIP than for the SNP?

A protest vote against Europe and immigration, easy to spread fear with those Two :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Idiocy
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captain cab wrote:
A&M
do you want a prediction?

from a little over 8 miles away in god's country it looks like the whole of Scotland despise the English - I'm only going there on Wednesday to relieve your financial doom and play golf :lol:


Simply not true! Visit Edinburgh and you'll be most welcome! Make sure you use City Cabs though :D The media are stirring this up.

captain cab wrote:
But it appears the nationalism, the yes voters, are using are predominantly a predominantly anti English ethos or under laying tone -


The mongs are buying into this anti english stuff and the sad fact is the SNP has a behind the scenes ruling core that are so far right its scary.



captain cab wrote:
To me Scotland will become independent within the next 10 years - it suits the controlling power in England - so there will be very little resistance.


I agree, Independence is inevitable.

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 Post subject: Re: Idiocy
PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 8:58 pm 
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It is a Win Win for Scotland, if we get home rule as promised by the unionists then it's a win, if the SNP table motions concerning, Austerity, a Trident, NHS, tuition fees, prescription fees etc and the Tories do nothing the they are the ones who will look bad, that's a win also for the SNP :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Idiocy
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Private Reggie wrote:
It is a Win Win for Scotland, if we get home rule as promised by the unionists then it's a win, if the SNP table motions concerning, Austerity, a Trident, NHS, tuition fees, prescription fees etc and the Tories do nothing the they are the ones who will look bad, that's a win also for the SNP :wink:



You're at the wind up PR! Fact :lol:

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Private Reggie wrote:
The Tories like the SNP have a solid support, Labour under a weak leader where there for the taking, UKIP evolved from within the Tory party, fact, the Tories knew the damage to them would be minimal compared to the damage that would be done to Labour and the Lib Dems, the Tories accepted casualties because they knew the gains would be significant, an overall majority being the prize, the Tories put the fear of life into the English concerning the impact of the SNP whilst UKIP stuck to the blame the immigrants stance and also attacking the Barnett formula, they even called us pro-euro Scots racists :roll:

Here is one example of the UKIP vote acting to the benefit of the Tories :wink:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... s-election

The Tories and UKIP are too the right, Labour are Centre right and the Lib Dems are Centre but where in bed with the right, when you look at the overall percentages the Tory vote hardly moved but UKIPs went up, in the end they ended up with 1 seat whilst the Tories made enough gains to win an overall majority, the Tories have played a blinder in England, they've played you's all for fools :wink:



Labour lurched to the left under Milliband he tried to emulate Gordon One Eye Brown, hence why they went tits up.


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 Post subject: Re: Idiocy
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A protest vote against Europe and immigration, easy to spread fear with those Two :wink:


Nope - I disagree - the people of the UK aint silly ffs

The simple fact is that the EU isn't the Common Market we joined therefore we need a referendum - because the EU has changed since the mid 1970's

I have a really silly thing I choose to call a brain.

To me - and hopefully you - the choice is to be part of Europe, playing a proper role - like ruling or leading it - through fully embracing it and playing a leading role.

OR

Leaving

Personally - I believe our future is in Europe and playing a key role

and I think the choice should be debated and given - labours stance is cr@p - whats the SNP policy?

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 Post subject: Re: Idiocy
PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 9:07 pm 
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Artur and molshy wrote:
I agree, Independence is inevitable.


TBH - IMO Scotland should fear if that comes about - the English are a bitter race

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They don't know their left from their right these jocks.


Neither do you lot :lol:

In my travels I have met many UKIP voters. Most were disillusioned working class Labour voters with the foolish notion that UKIP actually gives a flying [edited by admin] about them.

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