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Blocking the exit is not what I meant. I am thinking; If an election was forced and say the Conservatives lost, then the negotiations could be taken over by a new incoming government - to then with the collusion of Brussels negotiate a favourable free market encompassing immigration etc. In other words - as if Brexit had never happened. This is far from over.

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if you cannot be yourself, then who can you be.

I think the government will call a snap general election in about 18 months time once they have painted themselves a nice pretty picture of themselves as heroes valiantly battling the EU 26 headed hydra.

That will be their best chance of Victory although if Corbyn is still leader of the shambolic workers party shouldn't be much of a contest

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lack of modern legislation is the iceberg sinking the titanic of the transport sector

I thought Corbyn responded well in his interview last night

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

There'll be a civil war if they do that.

No there wont.

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Grandad,

you're right, but we'll have to give Gibraltar back to Spain

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

How do you know there wont?

How do you know there will?
I base my answer on the fact that there have been no riots over anything in this country for donkeys years and I can't see many people doing so over something that the man in the street is barely going to notice.

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Grandad,

Because the people voted to come out, it's akin to the Tories winning an election by a landslide yet Labour walking into 10 Downing Street. There'll be uproar.

You seem to misunderstand. If no agreement is reached we will still be out. it just means that world trade deals are put in place instead. Not exactly sure what this means but there is no option to stay in unless WE (whatever government we have) decide to withdraw from article 50.

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Grandad,

which was my point if an election is called before the two years are up and the party winning does so on a manifesto pledge to do that ......................................................


triggering article 50 is not final we can choose to withdraw from that at some point during the next 2 years

and I agree with CC we will have no choice but to give Gibraltar to Spain as payment for their cooperation

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lack of modern legislation is the iceberg sinking the titanic of the transport sector

That is not going to happen. Didn't this story surface yesterday morning? Along with the one saying that if you are driving in France you have to have a special sticker in your car and the EU symbol having to come off your number plate?

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Grandad,

Spain has said it would not veto an attempt by an independent Scotland to join the EU, in the clearest sign yet that Brexit has softened Madrid’s longstanding opposition.
Alfonso Dastis, the Spanish foreign minister, made it clear that the government would not block an independent Scotland’s EU hopes, although he stressed that Madrid would not welcome the disintegration of the UK. He also said Edinburgh would have to apply for membership, a process fraught with uncertainty that is likely to take several years.
Asked directly whether Spain would veto an independent Scotland joining the EU, Dastis said: “No, we wouldn’t.”
But Madrid is keen not to fuel Catalonia’s desire for independence. “We don’t want it [Scottish independence] to happen,” he said. “But if it happens legally and constitutionally, we would not block it. We don’t encourage the breakup of any member states, because we think the future goes in a different direction.”
The change in tone reflects the new approach being taken by Dastis, a career diplomat, who was promoted to foreign minister last November after the centre-right prime minister, Mariano Rajoy, formed a government following 300 days of political paralysis in 2016.
In the run-up to Scotland’s 2014 independence referendum, Rajoy said Scottish independence would be a catastrophe that would risk Europe’s disintegration, but the political calculus in Madrid and Brussels has shifted since Britain voted to leave the EU.
EU leaders are more sympathetic to Scotland, where 62% voted to remain in the EU, while insisting that Scots cannot inherit Britain’s EU membership.
The European commission spelled out earlier this month that an independent Scotland would have to apply to join the bloc, a point reinforced by Dastis. “They would have to join the line of candidates at some point and would have to start negotiations,” he said.
Scotland would have no chance of winning the perks enjoyed by the UK, such as the rebate on EU payments. Current EU law also requires new joiners to sign up to the euro, an issue that would pose fundamental problems for Scotland’s trade with the rest of the UK.
Experts have suggested negotiations could take three to four years, but the timing is uncertain. EU diplomats are reluctant to get into the details of a hypothetical event, especially when the bloc’s energies are being absorbed by Brexit.
Recent polls have cast doubt on the Scottish appetite to abandon the UK for a closer relationship with Europe. A study by the NatCen social research organisation found that Scots wanted similar controls on immigration to people from other parts of the UK.

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Grandad,

If British holiday makers stopped going to Spain - Spain would suffer seriously, perhaps the Spanish should remember that nearly 18 million people from this country visit there each year

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

I first went to Gibraltar in 1969, before the U.K. Joined the E.C.

The border between Spain and Gibraltar was closed. There were then more spaniards working in Gibraltar than the other way around. The workers had to get a ferry over to Africa, to one of the two Spanish enclaves over there, a sort of Spanish Gibraltar, and then on to Gibraltar, with the same after work!

The UK will no more cede Gibraltar to the Spanish than the falklands to the Argentinians.

Gibraltar is not a bargaining chip, and never will be.

And if any remoaners out there cannot see that this one of many reasons to leave the corrupt, undemocratic, unelected, unelectable, regime that is the EC, EEC, EU, United States Of Europe then I am truly the one eyed king in the kingdom of the blind.

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Former taxi driver