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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 12:03 pm 
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Unfortunately Councils in Wales seem to have been come as corrupt as Westminster


There's none of them any different, the staff at all levels earn extremely comfy salaries along with a pension that is conducent to longevity and Councillors themselves get payments, expenses and allowances that would put to shame many a Second division professional footballer.

They are all in it for Maximum gain with minimum pain.. :?


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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 1:04 pm 
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Unfortunately Councils in Wales seem to have been come as corrupt as Westminster


There's none of them any different, the staff at all levels earn extremely comfy salaries along with a pension that is conducent to longevity and Councillors themselves get payments, expenses and allowances that would put to shame many a Second division professional footballer.

They are all in it for Maximum gain with minimum pain.. :?

Ah but things will be different now won't they. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 2:14 pm 
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Unfortunately Councils in Wales seem to have been come as corrupt as Westminster


There's none of them any different, the staff at all levels earn extremely comfy salaries along with a pension that is conducent to longevity and Councillors themselves get payments, expenses and allowances that would put to shame many a Second division professional footballer.

They are all in it for Maximum gain with minimum pain.. :?

Ah but things will be different now won't they. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Nope..but it may just herald the beginning of a change.


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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 3:16 pm 
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Meanwhile I'd like to thank the 90% of Scots, who could actually be arsed to vote, for rejecting UKIP's politics of hate. :D

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 3:30 pm 
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Meanwhile I'd like to thank the 90% of Scots, who could actually be arsed to vote, for rejecting UKIP's politics of hate. :D


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Mr Gill argues that accusations that Ukip are racist have backfired, because it implied that voters who were worried about immigration were also racists.

He said: “They chose to attack us rather than speaking up for the working class people”.


A man who is not afraid to speak the truth...... Or would you rather the PC brigade who tell you it is wrong in a hidden attempt at "Suppression" of the truth.

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 4:27 pm 
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Meanwhile I'd like to thank the 90% of Scots, who could actually be arsed to vote, for rejecting UKIP's politics of hate. :D



well enjoy your UKIP Euro MP bud, enough voted FOR them (140,000)

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 5:30 pm 
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Mr Gill argues that accusations that Ukip are racist have backfired, because it implied that voters who were worried about immigration were also racists.

He said: “They chose to attack us rather than speaking up for the working class people”.


A man who is not afraid to speak the truth...... Or would you rather the PC brigade who tell you it is wrong in a hidden attempt at "Suppression" of the truth.


Let's see the whole quote, shall we?
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Welsh Ukip candidate Nathan Gill argued his party had a unique advantage.

He said: “The reality is [it] isn’t just the Conservative vote we are getting. We are really eating into the working class vote...

“When we have been in traditional Labour heartlands we have had very, very good support... That gives us a lot of heart, really.”

He added: “We are the only party that can actually draw votes from the Tories and the Labour voters. That gives us a huge advantage, I feel.”

Mr Gill argues that accusations that Ukip are racist have backfired, because it implied that voters who were worried about immigration were also racists.

He said: “They chose to attack us rather than speaking up for the working class people”.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... ot-7157649

No real surprise that a racist denies being a racist. #-o

Now I wouldn't argue about the reason these right wing nutters are getting so many votes. It is because Labour doesn't speak for the working classes. That stopped around the same time Kinnock went swimming in the sea at Brighton. Tory scum are still Tory scum and the Liberals have shown themselves to be the same Tory scum.
That said, Farage and his party are still a rag bag of Tory rejects and good old fashioned racist bawbags who will crap on the working classes from a great height. Tory scum with a racist twist..
The choice is which bunch of thatcherite cvnts to vote for. There has been and still is no credible left wing alternative in UK politics.

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 6:21 pm 
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No real surprise that a racist denies being a racist.


There was no denial because one was not needed. What he did do for those who are hard of hearing, and lacking in the ability to read properly, was to explain that just because the bus is overloaded you cannot get on. Nowhere do any of the Parties say (those immigrants who are here - have to go) - what they are saying is that the drawbridge must come up Or in many cases make it selective whereby the criminals do not get in, but people with skills and jobs to go to, can come in.

Australasia has similar policies - are they racist? To me it is about looking after your population, if I wanted Mosks/ Romanian criminals etc etc living next door, then I would move to those countries - in the meantime fight and protect what you have.

There is a real difference in being a racist and stifling the truth! Farage was only making a point (maybe badly) regarding Romanians living next door to you, of course the press (Bless em) turn it into a racial matter when all he was saying in a roundabout fashion, that many are out and out criminals - and that is a fact.

A Black guy once said to a police officer that I would not let him into my cab because he was black - the answer was....no mate I did not see any colour but I did see a man, having said that I have a booking - out of the police officer,myself and the black guy..........spot the real racist, if you get stuck I will point him out to you.

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 6:25 pm 
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the "racist card" is the joker that has been played too many times when it suits someone

UKIP isnt racist, unless wanting a fair deal for the natives (us) is racist, which personally i dont think is

time to put the English before migrants before the island sinks under them

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 7:48 pm 
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Meanwhile I'd like to thank the 90% of Scots, who could actually be arsed to vote, for rejecting UKIP's politics of hate. :D

UKIP are not a party of hate, and I think you should aim your anger a bit nearer to home.

The fact that less than 3 in 10 voted for your government is what should concern you.

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 8:41 pm 
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Meanwhile I'd like to thank the 90% of Scots, who could actually be arsed to vote, for rejecting UKIP's politics of hate. :D

UKIP are not a party of hate, and I think you should aim your anger a bit nearer to home.

The fact that less than 3 in 10 voted for your government is what should concern you.


Why should it? Our government scored a higher percentage of the vote here than UKIP's "earthquake" did in England. Yet your biased press calls that a disaster :lol:

But you're right, UKIP do like Eastern Europeans

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Ukip has been accused of hypocrisy and double standards for paying Eastern Europeans to distribute their election leaflets, despite the party's leaflets warning that immigrants from the EU pose a threat to British jobs.

Andrew Spalis, distribution operative at door-to-door distribution firm Fast Leaflet, told the Huffington Post UK that the company has been carrying out work for Ukip and that many of its employees are from Latvia, as well as other parts of Eastern Europe. He said that the firm had "only yesterday" carried out leafleting for the party.

"I've got my phone book full of names and telephone numbers of people who want to make lots of money, and I call them when I need people. Sometimes I take English people, but not very often."
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05 ... 79567.html


So long as they're cheap, i presume...... :-"

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Best tell UKIP then :badgrin:

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all the other parties are now crapping themselves

and with good cause

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 9:20 pm 
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I think Andrew Spalis just lost a contract :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 9:33 pm 
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Meanwhile I'd like to thank the 90% of Scots, who could actually be arsed to vote, for rejecting UKIP's politics of hate. :D

UKIP are not a party of hate, and I think you should aim your anger a bit nearer to home.

The fact that less than 3 in 10 voted for your government is what should concern you.


Why should it? Our government scored a higher percentage of the vote here than UKIP's "earthquake" did in England. Yet your biased press calls that a disaster :lol:

But you're right, UKIP do like Eastern Europeans

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Ukip Pays Eastern Europeans To Distribute Leaflets, Despite Warning They Take British Jobs

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Ukip has been accused of hypocrisy and double standards for paying Eastern Europeans to distribute their election leaflets, despite the party's leaflets warning that immigrants from the EU pose a threat to British jobs.

Andrew Spalis, distribution operative at door-to-door distribution firm Fast Leaflet, told the Huffington Post UK that the company has been carrying out work for Ukip and that many of its employees are from Latvia, as well as other parts of Eastern Europe. He said that the firm had "only yesterday" carried out leafleting for the party.

"I've got my phone book full of names and telephone numbers of people who want to make lots of money, and I call them when I need people. Sometimes I take English people, but not very often."
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05 ... 79567.html


So long as they're cheap, i presume......

If true then it knocks your racist allegations right into touch :D

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I think Andrew Spalis just lost a contract :lol:



He lost it a few weeks ago when he took the UKIP leaflet job on, he tried to stich them up but it didn't work.


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