Skull wrote:
What happens in other countries as a decision of British and American Government foreign policy is little to do with your average man on the streets of the UK. As I have said many times before, it’s people like you Gusmac, that voted the political class and their wealthy elites into power.
Now as for soldiers being killed in Afghanistan, there is little one can do about that either, but in this country. It's a different matter. And I don’t know of anyone who wants to see radical Islam killing our soldiers on the streets of the UK, and unlike you Gusmac, believe that this is the acceptable face of Islam in the UK.
Now if Muslims want to stay in this country, they should be made to swear allegiance to the British flag and before that of their faith, and if this is unacceptable they are put on the next boat out and the same goes for radical Islamic clerics or their sympathisers.
Oh and Gusmac, if you are still confused about where your allegiances lie, then maybe you should join them?
Now once again, I give you chance to answer my questions.
So, tell me Gusmac, how man young soldiers hacked to death on our streets, is the acceptable price for tolerating Islam in this country? Where do we draw the line?
That entire post is absolute b*llocks.
Skull wrote:
What happens in other countries as a decision of British and American Government foreign policy is little to do with your average man on the streets of the UK. As I have said many times before, it’s people like you Gusmac, that voted the political class and their wealthy elites into power.
British policy in Northern Ireland had very little to do with the people on the mainland - yet the IRA targeted British civilians.
People can affect change via the ballot box and through direct action.
Skull wrote:
Now as for soldiers being killed in Afghanistan, there is little one can do about that either, but in this country. It's a different matter. And I don’t know of anyone who wants to see radical Islam killing our soldiers on the streets of the UK, and unlike you Gusmac, believe that this is the acceptable face of Islam in the UK.
I think there's an awful lot we can do about our Soldiers being killed, maimed and wounded in Afghanistan - I'm surprised a man of your intellect hasn't thought of it - its called getting our troops out of there. I don't think you can say its a different matter either - because the sh*tbag that murdered our soldier in Woolwich did actually say it was because of British Government policy that he committed the murder. Or do you think he was lying? Perhaps he just got out of the wrong side of bed that morning and thought he'd make that kind of comment to passing civilians?
You mention radical Islam - yet you don't seem to recall the atrocities carried out in this country by the IRA - they came to the conclusion that one action on the mainland was worth several in Belfast or Londonderry. Whether people like it or not - that was the only thing that made the British Government change policy.
Yet when Islamists do it - we show shock and horror. The simple fact is that everyday hundreds of people in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan are murdered by either one side or the other - we've become immune to it - when its reported its a 10 second segment of the news - that's if its reported at all. The impression given is the life of a British subject is newsworthy - but the lives of hundreds of people with brown skins is not.
Skull wrote:
Now if Muslims want to stay in this country, they should be made to swear allegiance to the British flag and before that of their faith, and if this is unacceptable they are put on the next boat out and the same goes for radical Islamic clerics or their sympathisers.
What if these Muslims were born in this country?
The question hasn't actually been answered properly by anyone.
As for swearing allegiance - what possible difference will that make - there's MP's in Parliament who 'cross their fingers' when it comes to the oath. I did swear the oath of allegiance btw.