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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:57 am 
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The Unions through their Party should run the country =D> =D> =D> destroy capitalism =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>


thats always worked so well before hasnt it

if you dont like capitalism why arent you living in China?

which industry has a union not wrecked?

steel
coal
cars
shipyards
docks

none of the above

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wannabeeahack wrote:
trotskys twin wrote:
The Unions through their Party should run the country =D> =D> =D> destroy capitalism =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>


thats always worked so well before hasnt it

if you dont like capitalism why arent you living in China?

which industry has a union not wrecked?

steel
coal
cars
shipyards
docks

Non dope all those industries were destroyed by Tory management/ Cars being the best example foreign management BRITISH UNIONISED :D WORKFORCE HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:00 pm 
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so the unions didnt bring coventry car factories out on strike every week for years?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6729683.stm

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The Imp itself was underdeveloped, and the aforementioned build quality and unreliability problems, coupled with buyer apathy towards the quirky design was reflected in poor sales. After a reasonably successful start in 1963–65, the Imp's fortunes in the marketplace went into terminal decline. Lost production caused by constant strike action by the Linwood workforce only added to the problems



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British Leyland (B.L.) were particularly hard hit by strike action during the 1970's. Whilst its true that the company lost a lot of cars and money through strike action, far more damaging was the effect that the strikes had on the public's perception of the company and the vehicles it hoped they would buy. British Leyland began to symbolize all that was supposedly wrong with Britain (what people in the rest of the world were calling the English Disease). Hand in hand with the strikes was a marked decline in build quality. Many people blamed the unions and indirectly the workforce for this. B.L. employees didn't seem to take any pride in their work.



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At the centre of this political storm was Derek Robinson (dubbed "Red Robbo" by the media). Mr Robinson was Works Convenor for the Longbridge plant in Birmingham during the 1970's. In a bitter dispute in the early 1980's he was sacked by the then Managing Director Michael Edwards. According to one source Mr Robinson was involved in over 500 disputes at Longbridge during the period 1978 to 1979.




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By the 1960s BLSP had some of the largest presses in Britain and, as well as body shells, produced a wide range of car and commercial components for the Rootes Group including suspension units, petrol tanks and small pressings. The Rootes group by this time included Humber, Hillman, Sunbeam-Talbot, Singer, Commer and Karrier.

However, from the late 1950s the company suffered from industrial unrest, which has been cited as the root of problems leading eventually to the takeover of Rootes by Chrysler. The first strike of 1,500 workers began when a couple of newly-wed night shift workers asked to be transferred to day shift, and became known as the 'Honeymoon Strike'. A spate of 82 mainly unofficial strikes in 1961 caused the loss of over 27,000 man hours at the BLSP plant, which in turn caused the loss of 17,000 man hours at other Rootes plants. Finally a strike led to an ultimatum to all 1000 workers to return to work or be sacked. A recruitment drive was started to replace striking workers but as the strike rolled on 8,000 workers from other factories were made redundant.


Well done unions!

Of course the unions are even now still at it

Grangemouth....lets strike......plant to shut.....er, ok, lets not strike

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:11 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:


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At the centre of this political storm was Derek Robinson (dubbed "Red Robbo" by the media). Mr Robinson was Works Convenor for the Longbridge plant in Birmingham during the 1970's. In a bitter dispute in the early 1980's he was sacked by the then Managing Director Michael Edwards. According to one source Mr Robinson was involved in over 500 disputes at Longbridge during the period 1978 to 1979.





I am not sure that this quote is quite accurate. At the time, I was a toolmaker at one of the British leyland plants and as I recall, Derek Robinson was not actually an employee so he could not be sacked. I believe that he was a full time union official who had been provided with an office within the Longbridge plant. When Sir Michael found out about this he had him banned from entering the site.

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At the centre of this political storm was Derek Robinson (dubbed "Red Robbo" by the media). Mr Robinson was Works Convenor for the Longbridge plant in Birmingham during the 1970's. In a bitter dispute in the early 1980's he was sacked by the then Managing Director Michael Edwards. According to one source Mr Robinson was involved in over 500 disputes at Longbridge during the period 1978 to 1979.





I am not sure that this quote is quite accurate. At the time, I was a toolmaker at one of the British leyland plants and as I recall, Derek Robinson was not actually an employee so he could not be sacked. I believe that he was a full time union official who had been provided with an office within the Longbridge plant. When Sir Michael found out about this he had him banned from entering the site.


Which probably caused another strike

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:49 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:

Which probably caused another strike

I don't remember how it panned out after he was banned from the site but it certainly was the end for him.

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The way the labour party has sh&fted the working man this past few years any union giving them money should really think hard about it.

They didn't repeal any of Thatcher's anti union laws and the helped to create the largest ever gap between rich and poor, when time was spare they involved the country in illegal wars and made us a lap dog of the US.

The hierarchy of the labour party did very well out of it and earned themselves a fortune.

Of course the main point is - the political parties now are practically indistinguishable from each other - due to this the voters have turned their backs.

I'm very sorry Trots - we now have a Labour Council in Carlisle for the first time in 20 years - this was the Labour Party that deregulated the cab trade and told a T&G Union friend of mine in a council meeting "sit down, shut up, we don't care what its going to cost you we're going to deregulate" - this was before the vote! - I should point out that my union colleague had driven a cab for my dad for many years and was actually an employee - he went on to become a labour councillor himself.

Sadly the labour mob now in charge are equally as useless.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:12 am 
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Sadly the labour mob now in charge are equally as useless.


Trots was last seen at prayer, his mat pointing towards red square

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wannabeeahack wrote:
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Sadly the labour mob now in charge are equally as useless.


Trots was last seen at prayer, his mat pointing towards red square



With his new sign :D


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:42 am 
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thats not very nice Nige

his "care in the community" nurse wont like it

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thats not very nice Nige

his "care in the community" nurse wont like it



Do you mean his psychiatric Nurse? :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:20 pm 
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Hillman IMP A PILE OF [edited by admin] for sure drove one meself a couple of times but it wernt the workers that designed it was it ???

Strikes provoked by a stupid old school tie management cnuts :p

Today we Britain build many cars under foreign MANAGEMENT but all workforces are UNIONISED no strikes because management listen

and negotiate =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

Currently built in Britain most under foreign management.

McLaren
Rolls Royce
Bentley
Mini
Peugeot
Vauxhall
Ford ? definitely Engines
Lotus
Morgan
NISSAN
HONDA
and no doubt many more all by BRITISH UNIONISED WORKERS =D> =D> =D>

capt your points about the Labour Party are relevant its the BLAIRITE BROWNITE SCUM your criticizing look at the Labour representation Committe website for true old Labour .........................and as i continually point out you wont change IT from the OUTSIDE :evil: :evil:

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Currently built in Britain most under foreign management.

McLaren
Rolls Royce
Bentley
Mini
Peugeot
Vauxhall
Ford ? definitely Engines
Lotus
Morgan
NISSAN
HONDA


Morgan?...

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The Morgan Motor Company is a British motor car manufacturer. The family-owned company was founded in 1910 by Henry Frederick Stanley Morgan, generally known as "HFS" and was run by him until he died at age 77 in 1959.[1] Peter Morgan, son of H.F.S., ran the company until a few years before his death in 2003. He was replaced as Chairman by Alan Garnett, a non family director, from 2003 to 2006. On his departure, a 4-man management team was set up consisting of Matthew Parkin, Tim Whitworth, Steve Morris and Charles Morgan, (Peter Morgan's son). In 2010, Mr. Parkin left the Company and Charles Morgan was named Managing Director. In October 2013, Mr. Morgan was removed and Steve Morris assumed his title. The shareholders also appointed the first Chairman of the Board since 2006 in naming Andrew Duncan, a local solicitor and friend of the Late Peter Morgan.

Since 2011, the Morgan Motor Company and its related companies, (Aero Racing Limited and Morgan 3 Wheeler Ltd) have been wholly owned divisions of Morgan Technologies, a company incorporated in late 2010.

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Today we Britain build many cars under foreign MANAGEMENT but all workforces are UNIONISED no strikes because management listen



Car workers know to keep schtum and collect the pay packets

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:38 pm 
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thats not very nice Nige

his "care in the community" nurse wont like it



Do you mean his psychiatric Nurse? :lol: :lol: :lol:


well I didnt like to say but yes.....

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