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The truth being; In the long term many commodities inclusive of food ie food bills, will be much cheaper.

How on earth do you reach that conclusion?



The EU policies of dumping food to force prices up! They may not be dumping the food anymore - but you can bet that they have another way of keeping them artificially high.

Ask any farmer who produces meat and they will tell you that it costs more to produce the animal for slaughter than they get for them at market. How is this going to change?

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Says she's pushing through another referendum. She's living up to her name by being a little Hitler.


Hell has more chance of freezing over than Scotland voting YES in an Indyref 2, she knows it and we know it..she just full of ShiTE, If she calls and loses another Indy Ref she and her party will be toast and never again be in a position to Blackmail the UK.

She just won't risk it...

If that happens then tell me/us who are the alternative, the other parties up here are so not at the races :wink:


The Tories are very much at the races and coming up fast...you can think what you want but these are a future Scottish Government, Watch this space.


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Cabby John 1 wrote:
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The truth being; In the long term many commodities inclusive of food ie food bills, will be much cheaper.

How on earth do you reach that conclusion?



The EU policies of dumping food to force prices up! They may not be dumping the food anymore - but you can bet that they have another way of keeping them artificially high.



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Ask any farmer who produces meat and they will tell you that it costs more to produce the animal for slaughter than they get for them at market. How is this going to change?



Well, as they say..."You never see a poor farmer"! It cracks me up (not a go at you) when I read stuff like that. Who in their right mind produces any product? to then say it costs more to produce than I will get for it! If anything, it demonstrates the waste that the EU have with our money.

As a businessman would you deliberately lose money on routes unless you were getting subsidised - and that is where we are with the farming industry. The farmers that are left, are bumping along very nicely and not receiving anything like jobseekers allowance - its a darned sight more than that. As a point of interest would we all implode if they stopped subsidising "red" meat that is supposed to be causing all types of illnesses? The EU is a big market and I am sure that they could negotiate lower prices from poorer countries - but they do not.

The EU could also bring the oil market to its knees re the cost of oil if it so wished - but it does not, because so many corrupt government officials from all around the world have their fingers in the pie. Commodities in general, can, and will become cheaper in the long run. The world is a big place with lots of poor people who want to sell to us......food being one of them. I do not see as to why farmers should be getting backhanders - any other industry is sink or swim.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:33 pm 
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Well, as they say..."You never see a poor farmer"!

I do not see as to why farmers should be getting backhanders - any other industry is sink or swim.

How many farmers do you see John? I live in a rural area where farming is the biggest industry. There are farmers going to the wall all the time because they can't pay the feed bills because the market price is being kept low by the supermarkets. The suicide rate in the farming community is at an all time high because of the prices crisis. But at least you are happy for them to sink.

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Well, as they say..."You never see a poor farmer"! It cracks me up (not a go at you) when I read stuff like that. Who in their right mind produces any product?

because they are trapped with a large asset i.e. their farm and the faint hope that at some point in the future it will change years ago cattle were a common sight in fields round my way both dairy and beef herds now there are NONE only sheep and arable and chickens; pigs and beef cattle are no longer reared on farms round our way because the only way to produce the stuff cheap enough for the supermarkets is large factory farms and you can't get planning through for one of them in the UK

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Well, as they say..."You never see a poor farmer"! It cracks me up (not a go at you) when I read stuff like that. Who in their right mind produces any product?

because they are trapped with a large asset i.e. their farm and the faint hope that at some point in the future it will change years ago cattle were a common sight in fields round my way both dairy and beef herds now there are NONE only sheep and arable and chickens; pigs and beef cattle are no longer reared on farms round our way because the only way to produce the stuff cheap enough for the supermarkets is large factory farms and you can't get planning through for one of them in the UK


Their all ponces NATIONALISE the FARMS =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> without compensation =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> 8)

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Well, as they say..."You never see a poor farmer"!

I do not see as to why farmers should be getting backhanders - any other industry is sink or swim.

How many farmers do you see John? I live in a rural area where farming is the biggest industry. There are farmers going to the wall all the time because they can't pay the feed bills because the market price is being kept low by the supermarkets. The suicide rate in the farming community is at an all time high because of the prices crisis. But at least you are happy for them to sink.


I am not happy for anybody to sink (as you put it). Having said that I believe either all should be subsidised Or none, it should be an even playing field for all. Re farmers being suicidal, it has always been a profession that has had that problem. Tbh I am not sure that it is always a monetary problem, as Dentists also have/had a high suicidal problem (plenty if money there) - it might just be the type of person who is attracted to it. Farming will vary up and down the country as the temperature will differ quite dramatically - some will prosper......Some will sink......P.S..........I will not be happy :wink:

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Supermarkets probably suppress the price they are willing to pay UK farmers while inflating the price the consumer has to pay for UK products,they probably will be saying to the UK producer accept this price or we will source the products from elsewhere in the world.
The UK producer accepts the price and then the supermarket still brings in produce from abroad not always of the best quality but always charginging at inflated price.

Look at their profits when they are claiming it is a competitive market.
It is time they gave UK producers a share of these profits and reduce prices for the consumer.


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aha are we going to learn a new word today :lol:

seriously though i think you are spot on it's all about big profits to please their investors and never mind if their producers are struggling

Oh and TT farmers are very hard working people if you nationalise agriculture the incentive to work hard is gone and farms will become inefficient money pits taking money away from the NHS, Schools and Benefits

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Oh and TT farmers are very hard working people if you nationalise agriculture the incentive to work hard is gone and farms will become inefficient money pits taking money away from the NHS, Schools and Benefits[/quote]edders

Bollox incentive what to commit suicide eff orf their effing nurds who get raped and fu8ked by the supermarkets cause their GUTLESS just like CAB DRIVERS which means our nosh costs more than necessary i effing hate FARMERS :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: retarded gutless ignorant slime :evil: :evil:

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:03 pm 
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the majority have always been mental in all honesty.

certainly now my fuels is going to rise and my family holiday is going to cost a fortune, I'm more than willing to give up whatever I had before (which was nothing) for the eu

brexit cnuts

Unfortunately Carlisle isn't a capital city and a tourist hub for a country like mine, yes our holidays will cost more but will cost less for visitors coming to Edinburgh and Scotland, the low value of the pound has been good for us up here :D

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If that happens then tell me/us who are the alternative, the other parties up here are so not at the races :wink:[/quote]

The Tories are very much at the races and coming up fast...you can think what you want but these are a future Scottish Government, Watch this space.

[/quote]Tories up here will never run a minority government in Scotland never mind a majority, they are a stand alone party with no political likeness of any other party, say's it all really, Ruthy baby is a political puppet for her puppeteers down in Westminster, those day's of believing otherwise are well and truly in the past.

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The EU/UK can never be true democracies until that democracy is under the control of the people, looking around I only see that tue democracy exists in my beautiful country that is Scotland, our leader listens our leader acts on what the majority ask's for, that's democracy.

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The EU/UK can never be true democracies until that democracy is under the control of the people, looking around I only see that tue democracy exists in my beautiful country that is Scotland, our leader listens our leader acts on what the majority ask's for, that's democracy.


and the majority want the UK - but she isn't listening to that is she?

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Do not think Scotland could afford the payments to the E.U.

The portion of the UK debt would have to be repaid to the UK treasury before they would even be considered for membership.Taxes of all description would have to rise enormously and I do not think that would go down well with the population.

Our share of the debt :shock: what about our share of the assets :wink:


Do you honestly think that in the (unlikely) event of a split - that a UK/British government........are going to allow Scotland to walk away.........With the OIL FIELDS #-o

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