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3,600 new laws in three years as EU strangles UK firms: Brussels's 'addiction' to red tape laid bare as it's revealed it would take 92 DAYS to read all the regulations

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Must be true, it's in The Daily Heil

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If the daily mail said it was going to be sunny tomorrow - I'd take a umbrella, the following article cuts what Nidge posted to shreads

Are British businesses really being strangled by EU red tape?


Based on a contentious Business for Britain (BfB) report, a wide range of media reported on 14 October that there have been 3,600 new laws in three years as the EU “strangles” UK firms and that it would take 92 days to read all the regulations.

All this needs to be seen in perspective. Of course, even if it is true that it would take three months to read these regulations – which is a striking if debatable statistic – it is of limited relevance as no-one could possibly need to undertake such a task. Rules on type approval for lorries are of doubtful interest to a financial services company. Soft toy manufacturers do not need to read rules on sheep farming.

Second, the BfB report contains a series of factual errors, wrongly claiming for example that the EU is seeking to impose laws banning high heels for hairdressers, UK flags on meat packaging and olive oil on restaurant tables. These claims appear to be based on nothing more concrete than – false – reports in the Eurosceptic UK press…and in a superb example of circularity, they are today repeated in those same newspapers as if the BfB report constituted irrefutable independent research.

Third, most businesses, while no doubt wanting EU and national regulation to be as light as possible, seem to fundamentally disagree that they are being strangled by EU red tape. How else to explain surveys today by the largest manufacturing association, the EEF, and in September by the CBI demonstrating that eight or more out of ten businesses want to stay in the EU? Presumably if they really were being strangled, they would be crawling gasping for breath towards the exit…

Fourth, it is interesting to look at some examples quoted by, say, the Daily Mail as evidence of outrageous interference “handed down from Brussels” (rather than “negotiated and agreed by the UK”, as is in fact the case in the vast majority of cases).

It turns out that, unsexy as many of the rules are, they are necessary either to prevent potentially serious harm or for the single market to work or more often than not, for both of those reasons.

Yes, there do need to be rules on “anchovy fishing in the Bay of Biscay” or there would soon be no more anchovies. Rules on the labelling of spirits ensure that drinkers know what they are buying and that exporters do not have to comply with a whole series of different national rules.

It is likely that British consumers would agree that the addition of ammonium chloride- a potentially dangerous chemical if overused – as a feed additive for animals does need to be regulated. They might also want to know in clear terms how much energy water heaters use, so they can save on gas and electricity bills. Maximum residue levels for weedkillers are necessary to ensure children do not get poisoned.

There is no doubt that not all of these rules are perfect. The European Commission would be the first to agree that regulation needs to be smart and proportionate and that EU regulations do need to be regularly screened and updated and sometimes even removed. The Commission has a long record of working closely with the UK on this and always takes UK government and business input seriously.

The Commission has taken a whole series of steps recently to advance this better regulation agenda. For example, President Barroso announced earlier this month further simplification and deregulation, building on substantial progress over last few years – this was welcomed by the UK Department for Business, Innovation and Skills (BiS).

President José Manuel Barroso welcomed in turn the report on 15 October from the business leaders’ group set up by BiS, saying:

“In the last five years, the European Commission has slashed the cost of administrative burdens by 32.3 billion euros (27.4 billion GBP) and scrapped 5590 legal acts. And we are determined to go further.


Common rules are essential to make the single market work properly but I also want to make sure that the EU does not meddle where it should not and member states do not add additional burdens (“gold plating”). We have already acted on a range of specific issues where we have heard businesses’ concerns. “

So without any doubt, action on better regulation is necessary and it is happening.

But the broad picture is that rather than imposing additional red tape that would not exist without the EU, single market rules replace 28 national rules with a single EU rule, thus making life a lot easier for UK businesses operating across borders and boosting the overall economy at the same time. That is why the UK government has estimated the benefits of the single market to the UK economy as at least £31 billion and up to £92 billion a year.

The bottom line is that sloganeering over “red tape” often hides a much more complex reality, as we explained in more detail in this earlier blog piece.

This entry was originally posted on 14th October 2013 and was last updated on 15th October 2013.

http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/are ... -red-tape/

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lets get back to only dealing with countries who speak English (almost), New Zealand, Australia, the USA, we did ok before the EU

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3,600 new laws in three years as EU strangles UK firms: Brussels's 'addiction' to red tape laid bare as it's revealed it would take 92 DAYS to read all the regulations


Why does the whole EU parliament move between 2 sites every year at a huge cost for no benefit?

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3,600 new laws in three years as EU strangles UK firms: Brussels's 'addiction' to red tape laid bare as it's revealed it would take 92 DAYS to read all the regulations


Why does the whole EU parliament move between 2 sites every year at a huge cost for no benefit?



how do you know the cost?? They've not submitted any accounts for 26 years.


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3,600 new laws in three years as EU strangles UK firms: Brussels's 'addiction' to red tape laid bare as it's revealed it would take 92 DAYS to read all the regulations


Why does the whole EU parliament move between 2 sites every year at a huge cost for no benefit?



how do you know the cost?? They've not submitted any accounts for 26 years.


im guessing its not free though

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lets get back to only dealing with countries who speak English (almost), New Zealand, Australia, the USA, we did ok before the EU


They've all had 40 years to establish new trade links. Why would they want to deal with you?

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gusmac wrote:
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lets get back to only dealing with countries who speak English (almost), New Zealand, Australia, the USA, we did ok before the EU


They've all had 40 years to establish new trade links. Why would they want to deal with you?


Stupid asking these cretins that sort of Question Gus .....................ffs the answer is obvious #-o

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 9:28 am 
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Sorry, I don't love Britain. Though I was born here, I'm often ashamed to be British when I go abroad.

Why?

Well, you only have to see the "holidays abroad" programmes on TV to see why. why is it seemingly only the Brit who have to wander around Spanish islands totally blotto and almost naked most of the time? Walk down the streets swearing all the time? Can't be arsed to learn another language? We really ARE the bottom of the league when it comes to any sort of knowledge of other languages.

Why is Britain the only place to seemingly obey EVERY EU law to the letter? The Belgians though it hilarious that we should have to have lessons on how to climb a ladder. The Brits blamed it on EU regs; the truth is, it's the British "claim culture" which my late "friend" Mrs Thatcher and her cronies imported from the USA. Sue rather than apply common sense.

The main EU law that has affected MY business is the Driver CPC, in my view a complete waste of time and money, but to others who may be new to professional driving, maybe they CAN learn something from it.

Watching Question Time last week Shirley Williams summed up a few point in favour of the EU: free healthcare throughout the EU; the ability for Brits to work freely in the EU (that benefits MY other business repairing old British buses abroad); the freedom to travel throughout Europe without having to undergo passport checks and change money at every border which alone must have saved billions of man-hours and money over the years, except of course when people like myself try to re-enter the UK with endless delays at Eurotunnel and other point of entry.

As others have said, the UK IS a member of the European parliament and can easily vote against ANY laws or veto any laws it doesn't agree with.

On BBC Radio Kent this morning, a fruit farmer was interviewed about continuing membership. He needs to increase his staff from 50 to over 250 for the picking season. He can't recruit locally a the Brits don't want to take on seasonal work as they'd lose too much in benefits, so he has to recruit from Europe. Without that, he'd lose his entire business and another 50 Brits would be out of work. He also said that the amount of subsidy and grants he and other farmers get from the EU simply would not be available if Britain was outside the EU.


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a fruit farmer was interviewed about continuing membership. He needs to increase his staff from 50 to over 250 for the picking season. He can't recruit locally a the Brits don't want to take on seasonal work as they'd lose too much in benefits, so he has to recruit from Europe. Without that, he'd lose his entire business and another 50 Brits would be out of work. He also said that the amount of subsidy and grants he and other farmers get from the EU simply would not be available if Britain was outside the EU.


I am afraid that he is just one "apple" in the barrel :oops:

To be in a club for over 40 years and to be debating after 40 years experience of being part of this elite ole boys club - says it all. Millions of people are not happy - a few, and I mean a few, (Business) people are.

If it were right there would be NO discontent. As INDIVIDUALS you have to ask yourself (just like a general election) is it doing me any good, most are seeing as much benefit from this as we did with the promise of cheaper North sea gas - it is not happening and neither is it going to happen for the people.

What we do have in abundance is Bureaucracy, red tape, over the top surveillance, massive debts all round, food banks, people living from hand to mouth week in week in. Theoretically if you are trading mostly with your 27/28/29/whatever member states then at least one of them should have most of the trading monies ! Nope that is not the case, maybe Germany stands in better shape than most, but they are not super rich..........so where is the money going, and where are the benefits for the people?

You also have to ask why are illustrious leaders still lining up to join a technically bankrupt membership state? would you line up to join up with a technically bankrupt company? (common sense tells you NO).

So when it all goes t!ts up just like the Soviet Union did, we will have the bread and water..................they will still have caviar #-o..............it is no more than a rich help yourself club for the elite.

To me being out would be like winning the lottery - no more rules/orders from Brussels, no more £50 odd million per day being sent to the ole boys club (think of what we could do with £50 million per day for our own Country) and we would be able to trade with another 150/160 countries from around the world (think of the jobs that could create). The issue re jobs is a trade off of jobs and trade with 28/29 countries Or open up links with 150 other countries and create jobs well beyond what we would lose.

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a fruit farmer was interviewed about continuing membership. He needs to increase his staff from 50 to over 250 for the picking season. He can't recruit locally a the Brits don't want to take on seasonal work as they'd lose too much in benefits, so he has to recruit from Europe. Without that, he'd lose his entire business and another 50 Brits would be out of work. He also said that the amount of subsidy and grants he and other farmers get from the EU simply would not be available if Britain was outside the EU.


I am afraid that he is just one "apple" in the barrel :oops:

To be in a club for over 40 years and to be debating after 40 years experience of being part of this elite ole boys club - says it all. Millions of people are not happy - a few, and I mean a few, (Business) people are.

If it were right there would be NO discontent. As INDIVIDUALS you have to ask yourself (just like a general election) is it doing me any good, most are seeing as much benefit from this as we did with the promise of cheaper North sea gas - it is not happening and neither is it going to happen for the people.

What we do have in abundance is Bureaucracy, red tape, over the top surveillance, massive debts all round, food banks, people living from hand to mouth week in week in. Theoretically if you are trading mostly with your 27/28/29/whatever member states then at least one of them should have most of the trading monies ! Nope that is not the case, maybe Germany stands in better shape than most, but they are not super rich..........so where is the money going, and where are the benefits for the people?

You also have to ask why are illustrious leaders still lining up to join a technically bankrupt membership state? would you line up to join up with a technically bankrupt company? (common sense tells you NO).

So when it all goes t!ts up just like the Soviet Union did, we will have the bread and water..................they will still have caviar #-o..............it is no more than a rich help yourself club for the elite.

To me being out would be like winning the lottery - no more rules/orders from Brussels, no more £50 odd million per day being sent to the ole boys club (think of what we could do with £50 million per day for our own Country) and we would be able to trade with another 150/160 countries from around the world (think of the jobs that could create). The issue re jobs is a trade off of jobs and trade with 28/29 countries Or open up links with 150 other countries and create jobs well beyond what we would lose.


Bang on the money John.


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