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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | They aint laffin now are they |
UKIP win one election and come just 700 votes short in the other one FK you Labour and FK you Tories! |
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| Author: | mancityfan [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They aint laffin now are they |
Between 2010 and 2012, UKIP gained more from ex-Conservative voters. But from 2012 to 2014 has gained more from ex-Labour voters.In other words, statistical evidence suggests that UKIP is a decreasing problem for the Conservatives and an increasing problem for the Labour party. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They aint laffin now are they |
mancityfan wrote: Between 2010 and 2012, UKIP gained more from ex-Conservative voters. But from 2012 to 2014 has gained more from ex-Labour voters.In other words, statistical evidence suggests that UKIP is a decreasing problem for the Conservatives and an increasing problem for the Labour party. But (more importantly) a big problem for both.... Id have said your stats are rubbish given the INCREASED majority that the new UKIP MP took from the Tory party Quote: The UKIP leader said his party had momentum after Douglas Carswell won the Clacton by-election by 12,404 votes.
In Friday's other by-election result, Labour held on to Heywood and Middleton but UKIP slashed its majority to 617. David Cameron said voting UKIP helped Labour, while Ed Miliband pledged no "complacency" from his party. After Mr Carswell overturned a 12,068 Conservative majority in the Essex seat to push his old party into second place, Mr Farage said "something big" was happening in British politics. |
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| Author: | mancityfan [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They aint laffin now are they |
The UKIP narrative is that an elite class of politicians have sold out traditional British values leaving a culture of welfare scroungers and a tidal wave of immigrants stealing our jobs. Such populist rhetoric connects with the very real insecurities and pessimism of voters for whom uncertainty and decline are a fact of everyday life, and provide simple explanations for their worries. Labour faces an especially difficult challenge in combating this as its explanations for both the sources and solutions of these anxieties are considerably longer and more complex than UKIP’s gross oversimplifica- tions. Furthermore, UKIP is served by the fact that they are articulating an easily understood short hand argument about deindustrialisation, globaliza- tion and distrust of institutions and authority. Finally, UKIP is strengthened by the fact there are grains of truth in their arguments. Some Labour politi- cians did abuse their expenses, our immigration policy did have unintended consequences and our base of elected representatives does now come from a more elite pool.Quite simply, in 1979 over 90 MPs came from working class backgrounds. By 2010 it was less than 20 with more former university lecturers than blue collar workers. But your right the conservatives voters are moving to, in there thousands. The Liberals will be lucky to get a seat. |
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| Author: | grandad [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They aint laffin now are they |
wannabeeahack wrote: mancityfan wrote: Between 2010 and 2012, UKIP gained more from ex-Conservative voters. But from 2012 to 2014 has gained more from ex-Labour voters.In other words, statistical evidence suggests that UKIP is a decreasing problem for the Conservatives and an increasing problem for the Labour party. But (more importantly) a big problem for both.... Id have said your stats are rubbish given the INCREASED majority that the new UKIP MP took from the Tory party Quote: The UKIP leader said his party had momentum after Douglas Carswell won the Clacton by-election by 12,404 votes. In Friday's other by-election result, Labour held on to Heywood and Middleton but UKIP slashed its majority to 617. David Cameron said voting UKIP helped Labour, while Ed Miliband pledged no "complacency" from his party. After Mr Carswell overturned a 12,068 Conservative majority in the Essex seat to push his old party into second place, Mr Farage said "something big" was happening in British politics. Erm, it was his own majority! |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They aint laffin now are they |
grandad wrote: Erm, it was his own majority! The CONSERVATIVE voters had a CONSERVATIVE candidate who they ignored, its hardly ever HIS (or HER) majority, |
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They aint laffin now are they |
wannabeeahack wrote: UKIP win one election and come just 700 votes short in the other one FK you Labour and FK you Tories! Did you see Milliwanks lip wobbling last night in his victory speech? What a rectum rifler. |
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| Author: | gusmac [ Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They aint laffin now are they |
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| Author: | Cabby John 1 [ Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They aint laffin now are they |
gusmac wrote:
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They aint laffin now are they |
Clacton result "oh he was already the MP, it doesnt count" OK, Heywood and Middleton then....how have UKIP gone from 1200 votes in 2010 to 11.000 thats some swing int it |
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| Author: | toots [ Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They aint laffin now are they |
wannabeeahack wrote: Clacton result "oh he was already the MP, it doesnt count" OK, Heywood and Middleton then....how have UKIP gone from 1200 votes in 2010 to 11.000 thats some swing int it It came from conservative voters tho, which kinda tells me that Ukip is another name for conservative with the added bonus of wanting out of Europe |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They aint laffin now are they |
toots wrote: wannabeeahack wrote: Clacton result "oh he was already the MP, it doesnt count" OK, Heywood and Middleton then....how have UKIP gone from 1200 votes in 2010 to 11.000 thats some swing int it It came from conservative voters tho, which kinda tells me that Ukip is another name for conservative with the added bonus of wanting out of Europe Actually the Liberals were the biggest losers (how apt) 
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