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Unless I have read it wrong then I think/feel that they (the critics) have all gotten hold of the wrong end of the stick. Before I go any further I am no general supporter or admirer of DT.

He said words to the effect of; "stop them coming in until the problem was solved"! He did not say kick out all of those who were now there Or that they should never in the future be allowed to come in. To me it is reasonable to stop people coming in that are killing/maiming innocent people as it is NOT the politicians who are being killed/maimed, it is European/Muslim/every day people who are being targeted.

I know that it was a different era but did we not do the same in WW2 re German/Japanese people who are now our friends. You can be be pretty much sure that not all German/Japanese people supported the war! However you can be sure that they would not have been allowed in, so apart from Muslim terminology.....what is the difference?

My own thoughts are that until they root out the sleeper cells here, and totally/stop/vet those coming in, will they ever be able to stop this horrendous problem that has the capabilities of going far beyond the historical 100 year war.Where he has possibly gone wrong is to use the word "Muslim", in essence he should have named the countries concerned i.e Syria/Iraq/ etc etc.........I think that he has a point of a fashion.

Author:	captain cab [ Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:31 pm ]
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Muhammad Ali: Boxing Champion hits back at Donald Trump over Muslim ban and Isis Boxing icon Muhammad Ali has come out fighting against Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump and his controversial call for a ban on the entry of all Muslims into the US. Trump's comments have been widely condemned in the states from across the political spectrum with President Barack Obama calling for unity in the wake of the 2 December San Bernardino shootings which left 21 dead and were inspired by Islamic State terrorism. Ali, who became an outspoken advocate of the civil rights movement in the 1960s and 1970s and converted to Islam in 1975, also used his statement to speak out against the Islamic State (Isis/Daesh) and to say Islam had nothing to do with the attacks in Paris on 13 November. In the statement broadcast on US television, Ali, 73, said: "Speaking as someone who has never been accused of political correctness, I believe that our political leaders should use their position to bring understanding about the religion of Islam and clarify that these misguided murderers have perverted people's views on what Islam really is. "I am a Muslim, and there is nothing Islamic about killing innocent people in Paris, San Bernardino, or anywhere else in the world. "True Muslims know that the ruthless violence of so-called Islamic jihadists goes against the very tenets of our religion," he added. Trump also attracted criticism last week when he challenged Obama to name a Muslim sports star (implying there were none). Muhammad Ali was an obvious example of one such Muslim sports personality along with scores of others. Ali, who has spent less time in the spotlight since he was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease in 1984, was previously a regular fixture on US television where he became a spokesperson for the Nation of Islam, a major force in the movement for black civil rights. The boxing champion became a prisoner of conscience in 1971 when he refused to fight in Vietnam on religious grounds. source: http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/muh ... spartanntp

Author:	Cabby John 1 [ Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:41 pm ]
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Unless I have read it wrong then I think/feel that they (the critics) have all gotten hold of the wrong end of the stick. Before I go any further I am no general supporter or admirer of DT. He said words to the effect of; "stop them coming in until the problem was solved"! He did not say kick out all of those who were now there Or that they should never in the future be allowed to come in. To me it is reasonable to stop people coming in that are killing/maiming innocent people as it is NOT the politicians who are being killed/maimed, it is European/Muslim/every day people who are being targeted. I know that it was a different era but did we not do the same in WW2 re German/Japanese people who are now our friends. You can be be pretty much sure that not all German/Japanese people supported the war! However you can be sure that they would not have been allowed in, so apart from Muslim terminology.....what is the difference? My own thoughts are that until they root out the sleeper cells here, and totally/stop/vet those coming in, will they ever be able to stop this horrendous problem that has the capabilities of going far beyond the historical 100 year war.Where he has possibly gone wrong is to use the word "Muslim", in essence he should have named the countries concerned i.e Syria/Iraq/ etc etc.........I think that he has a point of a fashion.

Author:	captain cab [ Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:56 pm ]
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Cabby John 1 wrote: Unless I have read it wrong then I think/feel that they (the critics) have all gotten hold of the wrong end of the stick. Before I go any further I am no general supporter or admirer of DT. He said words to the effect of; "stop them coming in until the problem was solved"! He did not say kick out all of those who were now there Or that they should never in the future be allowed to come in. To me it is reasonable to stop people coming in that are killing/maiming innocent people as it is NOT the politicians who are being killed/maimed, it is European/Muslim/every day people who are being targeted. I know that it was a different era but did we not do the same in WW2 re German/Japanese people who are now our friends. You can be be pretty much sure that not all German/Japanese people supported the war! However you can be sure that they would not have been allowed in, so apart from Muslim terminology.....what is the difference? My own thoughts are that until they root out the sleeper cells here, and totally/stop/vet those coming in, will they ever be able to stop this horrendous problem that has the capabilities of going far beyond the historical 100 year war.Where he has possibly gone wrong is to use the word "Muslim", in essence he should have named the countries concerned i.e Syria/Iraq/ etc etc.........I think that he has a point of a fashion. I think you are right - the way I understood it was that he said until we actually know who these people are.

Author:	captain cab [ Thu Dec 10, 2015 3:03 pm ]
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 64301.html Trump calls to ban Muslim entry to U.S. Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population. Most recently, a poll from the Center for Security Policy released data showing "25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans here in the United States is justified as a part of the global jihad" and 51% of those polled, "agreed that Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to Shariah". Shariah authorizes such atrocities as murder against non-believers who won't convert, beheadings and more unthinkable acts that pose great harm to Americans, especially women. Mr. Trump stated, 'Without looking at the various polling data, it is obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension'. 'Where this hatred comes from and why we will have to determine. Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life.' 'If I win the election for President, we are going to Make America Great Again.'

Author:	captain cab [ Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:51 pm ]
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Must say, this seems to by typical American attitude - spend years bombing the bejesus out of people then wonder why they're disliked

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Author:	wannabeeahack [ Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:51 pm ]
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Poor old Ali doesnt know which way is up bless him, who wrote the script?

Author:	captain cab [ Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:00 pm ]
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Trump says "ban people" and we call him an idiot. 400K people in the UK want to do exactly the same. Idiots. Sky News Newsdesk ‏ A petition calling for Donald Trump to be barred from entering the UK has become the most popular ever campaign on the Government's website

Author:	Cabby John 1 [ Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:42 pm ]
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captain cab wrote: Trump says "ban people" and we call him an idiot. 400K people in the UK want to do exactly the same. Idiots. Sky News Newsdesk ‏ A petition calling for Donald Trump to be barred from entering the UK has become the most popular ever campaign on the Government's website How do we get a petition calling for DT to be knighted

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