grandad wrote:
Sussex wrote:
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will have to be a hard border in Ireland.
We don't have to have a hard border, we can keep it just as it is now.
However if the Republic wish to put a border up then that's down to them.
Explain how it will work with tarrifs and movement of people when they come in if there is no hard border?
Border controls can have three objectives
1.Check persons crossing the border for immigration purposes. In the case of the Irish border, this possible purpose has nothing to do with the EU: The EU Schengen arrangements do not apply to the British Isles, and will also not apply there in future. Instead, the UK and Ireland maintain a common travel area, which is not an arrangement under EU laws and thus would not be affected by Brexit. There will be no need for immigration checks at the Irish border after Brexit.
2.Perform security checks. Such checks were the main purpose of the then-”fortified” Irish border, and became obsolete with the Good Friday Agreement and the enhanced security cooperation on the island of Ireland. The question whether such checks are needed or not, is also not affected by Brexit.
3.Check and process goods crossing the border. Such checks are usually performed by customs. As everyone who is travelling internationally might know, almost no customs authority in the world checks all goods brought across borders. Or when did you have to open your suitcase last time you travelled into a different country (not intra-EU)? Customs require goods brought across the border commercially to be declared, registered, processed, or whatever procedure takes place, and performs risk-based spot checks on other goods.
Switzerland does not belong to the EU customs and VAT area, but is part of the Schengen Agreement. When crossing the border, people travelling undergo no systematic checks, as there is no need for immigration control. With regard to goods
certain border crossings have facilities for the declaration and processing of commercial or otherwise dutiable goods. This applies to the larger motorway crossings or crossings at larger main roads, while
other crossings are not permanently staffed, and persons are free to cross the border there without being checked, except if they carry goods which are subject to duties. Spot checks are performed nevertheless by mobile units.
As the possible purposes of border controls at the Irish border after a “hard Brexit” and those at the Irish border would be the same, the model would be very feasible for Ireland
Once in Switzerland you cannot do anything unless you are there legally.
Switzerland's border is crossed by around 2.4million people every day and it is outside the custom's union,it’s also a colossal figure for a country with a population of just 8.4million.