Concrete boots and a river.

](*,) and before folk go shouting about the EU - Norway isn't in the EU - the Human rights act is separate to the EU

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/ki ... spartanntp

That's as maybe but It's still the European Court of Human rights and is part of the The European Council which defines the EU's overall political direction and priorities.

You can't have one without involvement of the other, yes you can adopt the ECHR without being in the EU, but you'll still find they are inextricably linked whether you like it or not.

You can Escape the horrors of both quite easily by voting for a Brexit and then dumping the ECHR...then we can create our own system that lets us boot the fecking asswipes out that we presently can't under the loony ECHR laws.

So you don't believe that humans have rights?

Your twisting things you naughty man, but they do not need to have the cotton wool type of Rights that the ECHR serves up where the bad guys come off better than their victims, where you can't kick out or repatriate foreign rapists, murderers and illegal immigrants for fear of stopping them having a family life etc.

I'd rather see a common sense British bill of rights that will allow us to boot out the nut jobs regardless of whether they have family here or not and also stop convicts using the ECHR as an excuse to waste Tax payers money on every little gripe that they have and to put an end to all the greedy lawyers that encourage it so as they can cream millions off the state.

Nope, I stand by what i say, kick the ECHR into the long grass and replace it with something fit for purpose and which has some common sense behind it.

So you don't believe that humans have rights?

How can a civilised country deport even the most depraved, to a country where they may expect certain death or torture?




that EHCR is there for everyone - even those who we don't like - because they are humans too, a British bill of rights would say the exact same.



That Winston Churchill has a lot to answer for.

We could ensure the safety of potential torture Victims just as easily under a British bill of rights, but that's probably not even a problem for 0.1% percent of Migrants. but come on, hiding behind a right to a family life just to stay here or simply because they own a cat they don't wish to leave behind..well thats a load of crap reason.

Theres nowt the ECHR is doing we can't do for ourselves when it comes to protecting genuine torture fleeing migrants, but what we can do is stop the bloody lunacy parts of the ECHR which will allow us to kick out those that we currently can't.

the ECHR is is bloody joke, it might have some good parts but it sure as hell has some stupid parts as well...we'll can save the good and dump the stupid..we don't need a control freak like the ECHR to allow as to do that, it makes a mockery of justice and fairness with a few exceptions.

At referendums in 1972 and 1994, Norwegian voters rejected EU membership. Today 70 per cent say “No” to the EU. The most important issue for No to the EU is that democratic values, nationally and locally, are best retained outside the EU.

Is this something that any of the exit groups have proposed to do?