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Indian firm TATA to shut our steel plants cos Chinese steel is cheaper

China announces import duty rise on UK steel going to China

Now im not all that clever but why cant the UK impose import duty on Chinese steel coming here?

Because our infinately wise politicians vetoed it when the EU proposed an import tariff

tw@s

Are they propping up the firms in the oil industry that have suffered in the past couple of years?

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Are they propping up the firms in the oil industry that have suffered in the past couple of years?

Oh the oil industry! I think that you will find that it is still going to be making vast profits. Instead of 30/40 Billion £/$ per year it will be down to a paltry 10 Billion or so.

And then........Do not forget the %ankers, who were, and are still being bailed out, as opposed to the Steel Workers who are vital to our national security....apparently not worth it in the eyes of the blinkered.

Can you imagine a war scenario, and you need all the steel to go with it.....oh sorry - there is a 3 month waiting list...we have got to see to the Syrian/whatever order first #-o

DocG wrote:

Because our infinately wise politicians vetoed it when the EU proposed an import tariff

tw@s

Wow, the UK have the power to veto stuff in Europe.

The US has imposed tariffs of 266% on Chinese steel but Britain blocked efforts at EU level to impose similarly high emergency tariffs.

Grandad - you might find this interesting

Extract from BBC News site:

Quote:

The US has imposed tariffs of 266% on Chinese steel but Britain blocked efforts at EU level to impose similarly high emergency tariffs.

Full article here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35951108

I wasnt being facetious - Id seen it before and found it hard to believe

Grandad - you might find this interesting

Extract from BBC News site:

Quote:

The US has imposed tariffs of 266% on Chinese steel but Britain blocked efforts at EU level to impose similarly high emergency tariffs.

Full article here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35951108

I wasnt being facetious - Id seen it before and found it hard to believe

This article seems to contradict the BBC article.
https://euobserver.com/eu-china/128144

Author:	wannabeeahack [ Sat Apr 02, 2016 10:25 pm ]
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Indian firm TATA to shut our steel plants cos Chinese steel is cheaper China announces import duty rise on UK steel going to China Now im not all that clever but why cant the UK impose import duty on Chinese steel coming here?

Author:	DocG [ Sun Apr 03, 2016 3:26 am ]
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Because our infinately wise politicians vetoed it when the EU proposed an import tariff tw@s

Author:	Nidge2 [ Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:32 am ]
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wannabeeahack wrote: Indian firm TATA to shut our steel plants cos Chinese steel is cheaper China announces import duty rise on UK steel going to China Now im not all that clever but why cant the UK impose import duty on Chinese steel coming here? Because of the EU.

Author:	grandad [ Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:54 am ]
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DocG wrote: Because our infinately wise politicians vetoed it when the EU proposed an import tariff tw@s Wow, the UK have the power to veto stuff in Europe.

Author:	captain cab [ Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:06 am ]
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You have to love politicians - now playing with peoples lives squabbling over the EU and China. Close the place down it doesn't belong to the government anyway it belongs to TATA, the Indian firm - its expensive and doesn't make a profit, its unlikely to make a profit for years to come - buy cheap, buy Chinese. Cant believe people are advocating the government prop up a loss making industry, they didn't prop up Rover when that was in the sh*t, oh and that was under a labour government. Are they propping up the firms in the oil industry that have suffered in the past couple of years?

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Author:	Cabby John 1 [ Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:32 am ]
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Quote: Are they propping up the firms in the oil industry that have suffered in the past couple of years? Oh the oil industry! I think that you will find that it is still going to be making vast profits. Instead of 30/40 Billion £/$ per year it will be down to a paltry 10 Billion or so. And then........Do not forget the %ankers, who were, and are still being bailed out, as opposed to the Steel Workers who are vital to our national security....apparently not worth it in the eyes of the blinkered. Can you imagine a war scenario, and you need all the steel to go with it.....oh sorry - there is a 3 month waiting list...we have got to see to the Syrian/whatever order first

Author:	captain cab [ Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:28 pm ]
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Cabby John 1 wrote: Quote: Are they propping up the firms in the oil industry that have suffered in the past couple of years? Oh the oil industry! I think that you will find that it is still going to be making vast profits. Instead of 30/40 Billion £/$ per year it will be down to a paltry 10 Billion or so. And then........Do not forget the %ankers, who were, and are still being bailed out, as opposed to the Steel Workers who are vital to our national security....apparently not worth it in the eyes of the blinkered. Can you imagine a war scenario, and you need all the steel to go with it.....oh sorry - there is a 3 month waiting list...we have got to see to the Syrian/whatever order first The banks were bailed out because of the public pulling money out of the banks - I distinctly remember queues outside Northern Rock - incidentally they were bailed out by the Labour Government. Steel workers are about as vital as shop workers who are less vital than amazon delivery drivers. Sit back, get some popcorn - watching mankind collapse because of its own greed is fun, I personally want a few riots and the burning of the Indian and Chinese flags.

Author:	captain cab [ Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:45 pm ]
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PETER HITCHENS: Privatisation! Free trade! Shares for all! The great con that ruined Britain By Peter Hitchens for The Mail on Sunday I am so sorry now that I fell for the great Thatcher-Reagan promise. I can’t deny that I did. I believed all that stuff about privatisation and free trade and the unrestrained market. I think I may even have been taken in by the prophecies of a great share-owning democracy. I thought – this now seems especially funny – that private British Telecom would be automatically better than crabby old Post Office Telephones. I think anyone who has ever tried to contact BT when things go wrong would now happily go back to the days of nationalisation. Soviet-style slowness was bad, but surely better than total indifference. And it’s all very well being able to buy cheap goods from all over the world, as we fling our borders wide and abandon the protection of our own industries that everyone says is so wicked and will make us poor and backward. How I miss the old names of trusted brands, and the knowledge that these things had been made for generations by my fellow countrymen. But the new broom swept, and it swept pretty clean. In towns I know well, car assembly lines, railway workshops, glassworks engineering plants, chocolate factories vanished or shrank to nothing. A journey across the heart of England, once an exhilarating vista of muscular manufacturing, especially glorious by night, turned into archaeology. Now, if it looked like a factory, it was really a ruin. Someone usually pops up at this stage and says that we still manufacture a lot. If you say so, but then why are the drug-dealers so busy in our new factory-free industrial areas, and why can I never buy anything that was made here, except from absurdly expensive luxury shops? Why are our warships made of foreign steel? Why are the few factories that do exist almost always foreign-owned, their fate decided far away by people who don’t much care about this country? And why is our current-account deficit with the rest of the world the worst it’s ever been in peacetime, and nearly as bad as it was during the Great War that first bankrupted this country a century ago? If it’s all been so beneficial, why do so many of the containers that arrive in British ports, full of expensive imports, leave this country empty? Sure, some things have got cheaper, and there are a lot more little treats and luxuries available. The coffee and the restaurants are better – but the essentials of life are harder to find than ever: a good life and an honest place; a solid, modest home big enough to house a small family in a peaceful, orderly landscape; good local schools open to all who need them; reasonably paid secure work for this generation and the next; competent government and wise laws. These have become luxuries, unattainable for millions who once took them for granted. And now the remains of our steel industry are vanishing, not because nothing can be done (any determined government could save it if it really wanted to) but because we’re all still worshipping that free-market dogma that captivated us 30 years ago. I never thought I’d yearn for the National Coal Board or British Steel or, good heavens, British Leyland. But I do begin to feel I was fooled into thinking that what was coming next would be any better. At this rate it may soon be much, much worse. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... z44lNJeYJu

Author:	Cabby John 1 [ Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:48 pm ]
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One bail out keeps the elite in the life style that they have been accustomed to - the other one keeps people from going on the dole and threatens National Security ....have a guess which is which? We really are at the bottom of the barrel when the country is being flooded with terrorists ( a threat to National Security), and then a further threat to National Security when we cannot manufacture our own tanks. It is time for the Armed forces to step in to save our country from the crooks in suits.

Author:	Nidge2 [ Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:48 pm ]
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grandad wrote: DocG wrote: Because our infinately wise politicians vetoed it when the EU proposed an import tariff tw@s Wow, the UK have the power to veto stuff in Europe. Not when there's 20 odd other member countries in the EU's pockets.

Author:	heathcote [ Sun Apr 03, 2016 9:14 pm ]
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You were warned what to expect was coming in 1984,the only thing our leaders did not envisage was the number of citizens having to access food banks in the 21st century to feed and sustain their families in what is supposed to be a civilised UK.

Author:	DocG [ Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:39 am ]
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Grandad - you might find this interesting Extract from BBC News site: Quote: The US has imposed tariffs of 266% on Chinese steel but Britain blocked efforts at EU level to impose similarly high emergency tariffs. Full article here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35951108 I wasnt being facetious - Id seen it before and found it hard to believe

Author:	Nidge2 [ Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:18 am ]
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DocG wrote: Grandad - you might find this interesting Extract from BBC News site: Quote: The US has imposed tariffs of 266% on Chinese steel but Britain blocked efforts at EU level to impose similarly high emergency tariffs. Full article here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35951108 I wasnt being facetious - Id seen it before and found it hard to believe "Call me Dave doesn't know what to do." He's blinded by his mistress Heir Merkel.

Author:	grandad [ Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:31 am ]
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DocG wrote: Grandad - you might find this interesting Extract from BBC News site: Quote: The US has imposed tariffs of 266% on Chinese steel but Britain blocked efforts at EU level to impose similarly high emergency tariffs. Full article here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35951108 I wasnt being facetious - Id seen it before and found it hard to believe This article seems to contradict the BBC article. https://euobserver.com/eu-china/128144

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Author:	Nidge2 [ Mon Apr 04, 2016 1:40 pm ]
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grandad wrote: This article seems to contradict the BBC article. https://euobserver.com/eu-china/128144 I wouldn't trust anything that starts with EU.