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Author:  edders23 [ Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:22 am ]
Post subject:  Lack of proper factual information

is it me or is this entire referendum campaign all bull and no real facts. I for one have switched off entirely due to the constant exaggerated wild claims being made by both camps without anyone putting out any carefully researched facts. I am beginning to think that the entire referendum will be decided by people putting a pin in the ballot paper whilst blindfolded

Author:  Nidge2 [ Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:33 am ]
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The only way is out.

Author:  grandad [ Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:05 am ]
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I have seen figures published by the in people. I have yet to see figures from the out people. So far all I have heard from the out people is that the in people are liars and make up the figures.

Author:  cabby john [ Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:15 am ]
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grandad wrote:
I have seen figures published by the in people. I have yet to see figures from the out people. So far all I have heard from the out people is that the in people are liars and make up the figures.


Typical tory, the usual misinformation coming out.

Author:  trotskys twin [ Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:36 am ]
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cabby john wrote:
grandad wrote:
I have seen figures published by the in people. I have yet to see figures from the out people. So far all I have heard from the out people is that the in people are liars and make up the figures.


Typical tory, the usual misinformation coming out.


Fekk me you got it right John =D> =D> =D>

The propoganda machine ain't working its looking bloody close the establishment are crapping themselves ...................THE ONLY WAY IS OUT =D> =D> =D>

Author:  Cabby John 1 [ Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:21 pm ]
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Quote:
The propoganda machine ain't working its looking bloody close the establishment are crapping themselves ...................THE ONLY WAY IS OUT =D> =D> =D>



What do you think of Corbyn now that he has changed his tune re Out, and then wishing Madge all the best.........he will not be getting my vote anytime soon, that's for sure.

Author:  trotskys twin [ Thu Apr 21, 2016 1:13 pm ]
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Cabby John 1 wrote:
Quote:
The propoganda machine ain't working its looking bloody close the establishment are crapping themselves ...................THE ONLY WAY IS OUT =D> =D> =D>



What do you think of Corbyn now that he has changed his tune re Out, and then wishing Madge all the best.........he will not be getting my vote anytime soon, that's for sure.

John no leader of the Party will fulfill all my wishes but he probably comes closest to my views, and he will definitely get my vote in future unless john Mcdonnell stands then he gets it !

GET OUT NOW =D> =D> =D>

Author:  bloodnock [ Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:09 pm ]
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grandad wrote:
I have seen figures published by the in people. I have yet to see figures from the out people. So far all I have heard from the out people is that the in people are liars and make up the figures.


We Brexiters are at a wee bit of disadvantage when it comes to producing figure to back leaving, you lot can draw on 41 years of being in for facts and figures to fiddle with to promote staying in, we brexiters sadly have no facts and figures of recent non membership of the EU to back up anything...but that's good for us, at least we can't twist the facts and figures spewing from a corrupt EU of whom have never signed off a set of it's accounts in all its 41 years history.

What we do have is the Fact that by staying in your beloved EU they will Piss on us from an ever greater height than before should we ever be daft enough to stay in...they will be our masters in their eyes.

Author:  grandad [ Thu Apr 21, 2016 4:10 pm ]
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bloodnock wrote:
grandad wrote:
I have seen figures published by the in people. I have yet to see figures from the out people. So far all I have heard from the out people is that the in people are liars and make up the figures.


We Brexiters are at a wee bit of disadvantage when it comes to producing figure to back leaving, you lot can draw on 41 years of being in for facts and figures to fiddle with to promote staying in, we brexiters sadly have no facts and figures of recent non membership of the EU to back up anything...but that's good for us, at least we can't twist the facts and figures spewing from a corrupt EU of whom have never signed off a set of it's accounts in all its 41 years history.

What we do have is the Fact that by staying in your beloved EU they will Piss on us from an ever greater height than before should we ever be daft enough to stay in...they will be our masters in their eyes.

They must have some idea of how much money they will have by leaving and where it will be spent. For instance will farmers still get some kind of subsidy from the state along the same scale as they currently get from the EU or are they going to have to go without any subsidy?

Author:  cabby john [ Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:12 pm ]
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grandad wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
grandad wrote:
I have seen figures published by the in people. I have yet to see figures from the out people. So far all I have heard from the out people is that the in people are liars and make up the figures.


We Brexiters are at a wee bit of disadvantage when it comes to producing figure to back leaving, you lot can draw on 41 years of being in for facts and figures to fiddle with to promote staying in, we brexiters sadly have no facts and figures of recent non membership of the EU to back up anything...but that's good for us, at least we can't twist the facts and figures spewing from a corrupt EU of whom have never signed off a set of it's accounts in all its 41 years history.

What we do have is the Fact that by staying in your beloved EU they will Piss on us from an ever greater height than before should we ever be daft enough to stay in...they will be our masters in their eyes.

They must have some idea of how much money they will have by leaving and where it will be spent. For instance will farmers still get some kind of subsidy from the state along the same scale as they currently get from the EU or are they going to have to go without any subsidy?


Not just your post, but numerous other discussions (news etc) all going on about farmers as if we are one big farming nation! We have the same spiel in Wales - I just do not get it as farming has been in decline for the past 20/30 years. If we sacrificed the farmers - it would still be a majority that would benefit more than them. What makes the farmers more special than say - the Fishing industry Or any other for that matter.

P.s. It was said many years ago "You never see a poor farmer"!........ Nowt has changed on that one.

Author:  grandad [ Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:52 pm ]
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cabby john wrote:

P.s. It was said many years ago "You never see a poor farmer"!........ Nowt has changed on that one.

You clearly know nothing about farmers and farming.

Author:  edders23 [ Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Lack of proper factual information

grandad wrote:
cabby john wrote:

P.s. It was said many years ago "You never see a poor farmer"!........ Nowt has changed on that one.

You clearly know nothing about farmers and farming.
=D> =D>

John
Perhaps you should talk to a few of your local sheep farmers see if they are "raking it in" then see how many dairy farmers have gone bust it's only the big arable farms with several thousand acres growing 4 or 5 different crops that are prospering the rest are really struggling which is why so many farms are up for sale or being converted into housing or industrial estates certainly round here that's the case

Author:  Nidge2 [ Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Lack of proper factual information

grandad wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
grandad wrote:
I have seen figures published by the in people. I have yet to see figures from the out people. So far all I have heard from the out people is that the in people are liars and make up the figures.


We Brexiters are at a wee bit of disadvantage when it comes to producing figure to back leaving, you lot can draw on 41 years of being in for facts and figures to fiddle with to promote staying in, we brexiters sadly have no facts and figures of recent non membership of the EU to back up anything...but that's good for us, at least we can't twist the facts and figures spewing from a corrupt EU of whom have never signed off a set of it's accounts in all its 41 years history.

What we do have is the Fact that by staying in your beloved EU they will Piss on us from an ever greater height than before should we ever be daft enough to stay in...they will be our masters in their eyes.

They must have some idea of how much money they will have by leaving and where it will be spent. For instance will farmers still get some kind of subsidy from the state along the same scale as they currently get from the EU or are they going to have to go without any subsidy?


They won't need subsidies because they'll be able to sell all their wonky veg the EU doesn't allow.

Author:  grandad [ Fri Apr 22, 2016 6:58 am ]
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Nidge2 wrote:

They won't need subsidies because they'll be able to sell all their wonky veg the EU doesn't allow.

Is that official? Which exit group has announced this?

Author:  MR T [ Fri Apr 22, 2016 7:04 am ]
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grandad wrote:
Nidge2 wrote:

They won't need subsidies because they'll be able to sell all their wonky veg the EU doesn't allow.

Is that official? Which exit group has announced this?

The green party

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