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Author:  Sussex [ Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:03 am ]
Post subject:  will recent very sad events change things?
On one hand we have the alleged murder of Mrs Fox MP by a right wing nutter, and on the other hand the alleged murder of two oaps by a Kosovan illegal immigrant.

I happen to believe they won't change folks votes, as I'm certain most if not all have decided where their cross is going already. They are just being polite to the pollsters.
Author:  captain cab [ Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: will recent very sad events change things?
Sussex wrote:
On one hand we have the alleged murder of Mrs Fox MP by a right wing nutter, and on the other hand the alleged murder of two oaps by a Kosovan illegal immigrant.

I happen to believe they won't change folks votes, as I'm certain most if not all have decided where their cross is going already. They are just being polite to the pollsters.



I think it will add a good few votes to remain - the public are very, very fickle.
Author:  bloodnock [ Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: will recent very sad events change things?
Sussex wrote:
On one hand we have the alleged murder of Mrs Fox MP by a right wing nutter, and on the other hand the alleged murder of two oaps by a Kosovan illegal immigrant.

I happen to believe they won't change folks votes, as I'm certain most if not all have decided where their cross is going already. They are just being polite to the pollsters.



Jo Coxs murder was the result of the actions of a mad man, this kind of psychopath would murder anyone that got their back up no matter of what end of the political spectrum they may have came from, Their are many right wingers who do not see the EU as the threat but the mix of races that live their, In his Eyes the UK in or out of the EU would still have to many races of people in it to his idealistic stand point...this guy was simply a bad un, a white supremacist that was dissatisfied by what he sees an England to multi ethnic for his mentally ill mind to accept..

The poor MP was just the wrong person in the wrong job and in the wrong place at the time when his mental illness driven fantasies came to a head, he'd been planning something like this for nigh on 20 years, he coulsn't possibly have known who his victim would have been away back then nor of any IN or OUT Referendum campaign...the guy was simply a lethal Nut Job.

As for the Kosovan murderer who knows what his motives were, I suspect it would be more Greed than political, the only certainty with the Kosovan guy is that if he Was not allowed to be in Britain then he could not have killed to British OAPs....maybe he'd have mudered someone else back in Kosovo,
Author:  captain cab [ Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: will recent very sad events change things?
here's one of the tweets I've read so far -



Ricky D
‏@RespectRickyD
@peterjukes Anyone who votes leave is racist and evil and is betraying the memory of Jo and her 2 small children #StrongerIn

and another -

ian harris
‏@livinginmarseil
@DVATW You thick w*nker. You have no soul. Jo Cox was murdered by someone brainwashed by Farage, you and your ilk. You have created THIS
Author:  bloodnock [ Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: will recent very sad events change things?
captain cab wrote:
Sussex wrote:
On one hand we have the alleged murder of Mrs Fox MP by a right wing nutter, and on the other hand the alleged murder of two oaps by a Kosovan illegal immigrant.

I happen to believe they won't change folks votes, as I'm certain most if not all have decided where their cross is going already. They are just being polite to the pollsters.



I think it will add a good few votes to remain - the public are very, very fickle.


I don't think it will make any difference to the Vote, We Brits are smart enough to tell a loony murder from a political assassination, it has not changed the polls, it may well switch off a few people from voting but I would think that would be on the less motivated remain side and not on the more fervent Brexit side.
Author:  captain cab [ Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: will recent very sad events change things?
Shhh ](*,)

Jo Cox murder: Thomas Mair asked for mental health treatment day before MP died

The man accused of murdering Jo Cox sought help for his mental health problems the night before she was killed - but was told to make an appointment and come back the next day.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06 ... tment-day/
Author:  bloodnock [ Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: will recent very sad events change things?
captain cab wrote:
here's one of the tweets I've read so far -



Ricky D
‏@RespectRickyD
@peterjukes Anyone who votes leave is racist and evil and is betraying the memory of Jo and her 2 small children #StrongerIn

and another -

ian harris
‏@livinginmarseil
@DVATW You thick w*nker. You have no soul. Jo Cox was murdered by someone brainwashed by Farage, you and your ilk. You have created THIS


Ahh, the very unliberal liberals and the very Un PC PC types rear their ugly heads already, they assume that if you vote Brexit your a racist, yet here we are in Multicultural Britain and who are quite happy in our multcultural skin possibly heading towards a Brexit because people of all creeds are fed up not with the Skin tone of others but because they cannot stand a remote, undemocratic and Unanswerable EU system that is run not by those we vote into it's parliament but by it's unelected Beaurocrats....the Dislike of the EU is not confined to Anglo Saxon whites, this dislike is shared by Britains from all cultures.
Author:  MR T [ Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: will recent very sad events change things?
bloodnock wrote:
captain cab wrote:
here's one of the tweets I've read so far -



Ricky D
‏@RespectRickyD
@peterjukes Anyone who votes leave is racist and evil and is betraying the memory of Jo and her 2 small children #StrongerIn

and another -

ian harris
‏@livinginmarseil
@DVATW You thick w*nker. You have no soul. Jo Cox was murdered by someone brainwashed by Farage, you and your ilk. You have created THIS


Ahh, the very unliberal liberals and the very Un PC PC types rear their ugly heads already, they assume that if you vote Brexit your a racist, yet here we are in Multicultural Britain and who are quite happy in our multcultural skin possibly heading towards a Brexit because people of all creeds are fed up not with the Skin tone of others but because they cannot stand a remote, undemocratic and Unanswerable EU system that is run not by those we vote into it's parliament but by it's unelected Beaurocrats....the Dislike of the EU is not confined to Anglo Saxon whites, this dislike is shared by Britains from all cultures.

And Scousers.
Author:  grandad [ Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: will recent very sad events change things?
Both very sad and tragic events. I would hope that the British people wont let isolated incidents affect their vote in the referendum.
Unfortunately, in or out, these things will always happen at some point.
Author:  bloodnock [ Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: will recent very sad events change things?
grandad wrote:
Both very sad and tragic events. I would hope that the British people wont let isolated incidents affect their vote in the referendum.
Unfortunately, in or out, these things will always happen at some point.


Well said.. =D> =D>
Author:  Sussex [ Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: will recent very sad events change things?
I think the Leavers might make reference to the money the city traders made of the back of the MPs death.

The same city traders that want us to remain.
Author:  bloodnock [ Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: will recent very sad events change things?
Sussex wrote:
I think the Leavers might make reference to the money the city traders made of the back of the MPs death.

The same city traders that want us to remain.


I'm not sure its the economics that drives us brexiteers, it's the freedom to liberate the uk from an unelected elite who want total control over us without any reproach if we're not happy with them...it's the not having any say about how our lives are run and about people who we cant unelect as they were never elected in the first place...even the MEPs have no say in what the EU council elite decides to do.
Author:  bloodnock [ Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: will recent very sad events change things?
Sussex wrote:
I think the Leavers might make reference to the money the city traders made of the back of the MPs death.

The same city traders that want us to remain.


Oops..Button stutter.
Author:  Nidge2 [ Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: will recent very sad events change things?
Sussex wrote:
On one hand we have the alleged murder of Mrs Fox MP by a right wing nutter, and on the other hand the alleged murder of two oaps by a Kosovan illegal immigrant.

I happen to believe they won't change folks votes, as I'm certain most if not all have decided where their cross is going already. They are just being polite to the pollsters.


No.
Author:  Sussex [ Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: will recent very sad events change things?
Boris made a good point today, in relation to right wing nutters, and that's the EU is chock a block of them.

So in fact it's better we keep them out rather than be forced as present to let them in.
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