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May's manifesto is birth of third way Conservatism
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Author:  grandad [ Mon May 22, 2017 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: May's manifesto is birth of third way Conservatism

captain cab wrote:
grandad wrote:
I believe that the question asked was to explain the difference between how people pay for their care now and what is being proposed dumbass.


The Torys are going to cease the triple lock -

The Tory's are going to put pensioners through an embarrassing and demeaning means test to get a winter fuel allowance

People with more than £100,000 in assets will have to pay for their own care out of the value of their homes rather than relying on the council to cover the cost of visits by care workers.

Here you go.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rew-dilnot

Now do you think its right for people who have been paying national insurance and income tax all their lives to pay for their care (which they already paid for).

Personally I see this as attacking the old - just like the remain campaign did during the referendum - it appears to be a Tory thing.

How is care in a care home paid for at the moment?

Author:  trotskys twin [ Mon May 22, 2017 5:05 pm ]
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Do you remember "meals on wheels" "home helps" "day centers" Grandad ?? all destroyed by your TEAM OF MURDERERS to in effect murder the poor no doubt with your puerile support ...................contemptible indeed :evil:


VOTE LABOUR

Author:  grandad [ Mon May 22, 2017 6:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: May's manifesto is birth of third way Conservatism

trotskys twin wrote:
Do you remember "meals on wheels" "home helps" "day centers" Grandad ?? all destroyed by your TEAM OF MURDERERS to in effect murder the poor no doubt with your puerile support ...................contemptible indeed :evil:


VOTE LABOUR

Why have labour never brought them back if they were so good?

Author:  grandad [ Mon May 22, 2017 7:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: May's manifesto is birth of third way Conservatism

Just checked it out and meals on wheels is still operating in Leicestershire. it is rin by Leicestershire County Council, A Conservative run Council.

Author:  captain cab [ Mon May 22, 2017 7:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: May's manifesto is birth of third way Conservatism

grandad wrote:
How is care in a care home paid for at the moment?


No, you're the politician, you tell us.

Oh and your prime minister appears to have done an about turn on this particular manifesto pledge, like she did with the national insurance thing in the last budget.

Strong and stable indeed.

Author:  grandad [ Mon May 22, 2017 7:45 pm ]
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We still have day centers as well. transport provided by full time Leicestershire County Council employees using Leicestershire County Council vehicles. A Conservative run Council.

Author:  grandad [ Mon May 22, 2017 7:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: May's manifesto is birth of third way Conservatism

captain cab wrote:
grandad wrote:
How is care in a care home paid for at the moment?


No, you're the politician, you tell us.


Ah, so you don't want to admit that under the current rules that people have to use their savings and assets to fund the care provided in a care home until they are down to their last £23,000 and that in most cases the property has to be sold before they die.

Author:  grandad [ Mon May 22, 2017 7:55 pm ]
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captain cab wrote:

Oh and your prime minister appears to have done an about turn on this particular manifesto pledge,

I think the plan is the same but she has clarified that there will be a cap.

Author:  heathcote [ Mon May 22, 2017 9:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: May's manifesto is birth of third way Conservatism

grandad wrote:
captain cab wrote:

Oh and your prime minister appears to have done an about turn on this particular manifesto pledge,

I think the plan is the same but she has clarified that there will be a cap.




I do not think she has a plan about anything she opens her mouth and her tongue rattles on the wind,she appear to be making things on the hoof,and the public are seeing right through her,definitely in the deep end and drowning at a rapid rate of knots.

Labour is closing in for the kill,vote LABOUR.

Author:  captain cab [ Mon May 22, 2017 10:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: May's manifesto is birth of third way Conservatism

grandad wrote:
Ah, so you don't want to admit that under the current rules that people have to use their savings and assets to fund the care provided in a care home until they are down to their last £23,000 and that in most cases the property has to be sold before they die.


Then that is also a disgrace - shame on ANY government that would allow it.

No person should pay for healthcare - that is why we pay tax and insurance.

Author:  trotskys twin [ Tue May 23, 2017 11:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: May's manifesto is birth of third way Conservatism

captain cab wrote:
grandad wrote:
How is care in a care home paid for at the moment?


No, you're the politician, you tell us.

Oh and your prime minister appears to have done an about turn on this particular manifesto pledge, like she did with the national insurance thing in the last budget.

Strong and stable indeed.


On the NAIL comrade =D> =D> =D>

This assole GRANDAD makes me puke.

Author:  trotskys twin [ Tue May 23, 2017 11:17 am ]
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grandad wrote:
We still have day centers as well. transport provided by full time Leicestershire County Council employees using Leicestershire County Council vehicles. A Conservative run Council.


Really and at what cost to the consumer assole #-o #-o #-o #-o

Meals on wheels, home helps, SILENCE from the Tory clone.

Many many councils have had to stop these services due entirely too Tory Governments murdering Government grants to Councils l in order to give Tax cuts to the fookin rich, and turning a blind eye to tax avoidance fookin scum :twisted: :twisted:

VOTE LABOUR =D> =D> =D>

Author:  trotskys twin [ Tue May 23, 2017 11:19 am ]
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captain cab wrote:
grandad wrote:
Ah, so you don't want to admit that under the current rules that people have to use their savings and assets to fund the care provided in a care home until they are down to their last £23,000 and that in most cases the property has to be sold before they die.


Then that is also a disgrace - shame on ANY government that would allow it.

No person should pay for healthcare - that is why we pay tax and insurance.


iNDEED ITS CALLED THE WELFARE STATE INTRODUCED IN 1945 BY A LABOUR GOVERNMENT.

VOTE LABOUR GET IT BACK .........................COME ON JEZZA =D> =D> =D> =D>

Author:  Private Reggie [ Thu May 25, 2017 8:51 pm ]
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grandad wrote:
We still have day centers as well. transport provided by full time Leicestershire County Council employees using Leicestershire County Council vehicles. A Conservative run Council.

It's looking like a lot of the voters within LCC are die hard Tory voters, elderly voters I'm sure, makes sense to me :roll:

Author:  trotskys twin [ Fri May 26, 2017 5:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: May's manifesto is birth of third way Conservatism

Private Reggie wrote:
grandad wrote:
We still have day centers as well. transport provided by full time Leicestershire County Council employees using Leicestershire County Council vehicles. A Conservative run Council.

It's looking like a lot of the voters within LCC are die hard Tory voters, elderly voters I'm sure, makes sense to me :roll:


LEMINS :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

As is that grandad specimen who seems to have vanished

tory lead down to 5 points ho ho their going TITS UP :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

Come on Jezza \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/

Vote Labour =D> =D> =D>

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