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Has anyone any idea where the extra £350 million a week for the NHS is - I distinctly remember it being promised.


CC. Loads of lies were told prior to the referendum, however I cannot remember anyone claiming 1) That the Nhs was going to get the (entire) amount that we contribute to the EU, and 2) Who in their wildest imagination, thinks for one minute, that the Nhs needs £350 million per week #-o


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Has anyone any idea where the extra £350 million a week for the NHS is - I distinctly remember it being promised.


CC. Loads of lies were told prior to the referendum, however I cannot remember anyone claiming 1) That the Nhs was going to get the (entire) amount that we contribute to the EU, and 2) Who in their wildest imagination, thinks for one minute, that the Nhs needs £350 million per week #-o


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Where does it say that it will be funded £350 mil per WEEK? It would be obvious to a blind man that the Nhs does NOT need that amount of a cash injection. Imo before any money is put into the Nhs or the Police, a straight forward audit of where vast sums of money are being swallowed up is needed. In fairness to Bliar he chucked billions into the Nhs, only for it to be pillaged by those at the top taking massive salaries. We do not need imo tax increases to fund the Nhs (dim Tim), neither does the Nhs need £350 mil per week, neither do we need to pander to the political blackmail to put further massive amounts of money into the police - so that they can live the life! What we do need is transparent accountability, along with people in general to realise what was indicated pre referendum i.e that an amount/portion from our EU contribution would/could be used for the Nhs without having to find the money from elsewhere.

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Where does it say that it will be funded £350 mil per WEEK? It would be obvious to a blind man that the Nhs does NOT need that amount of a cash injection. Imo before any money is put into the Nhs or the Police, a straight forward audit of where vast sums of money are being swallowed up is needed. In fairness to Bliar he chucked billions into the Nhs, only for it to be pillaged by those at the top taking massive salaries. We do not need imo tax increases to fund the Nhs (dim Tim), neither does the Nhs need £350 mil per week, neither do we need to pander to the political blackmail to put further massive amounts of money into the police - so that they can live the life! What we do need is transparent accountability, along with people in general to realise what was indicated pre referendum i.e that an amount/portion from our EU contribution would/could be used for the Nhs without having to find the money from elsewhere.



https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... nhs-pledge

Leaders of the cross-party campaign that persuaded the British people to leave the EU have dropped their pre-referendum pledge of a £350m-a-week spending bonanza for the NHS.

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is that a fair enough answer?

oh the lies folk were told

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Where does it say that it will be funded £350 mil per WEEK? It would be obvious to a blind man that the Nhs does NOT need that amount of a cash injection. Imo before any money is put into the Nhs or the Police, a straight forward audit of where vast sums of money are being swallowed up is needed. In fairness to Bliar he chucked billions into the Nhs, only for it to be pillaged by those at the top taking massive salaries. We do not need imo tax increases to fund the Nhs (dim Tim), neither does the Nhs need £350 mil per week, neither do we need to pander to the political blackmail to put further massive amounts of money into the police - so that they can live the life! What we do need is transparent accountability, along with people in general to realise what was indicated pre referendum i.e that an amount/portion from our EU contribution would/could be used for the Nhs without having to find the money from elsewhere.



https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... nhs-pledge

Leaders of the cross-party campaign that persuaded the British people to leave the EU have dropped their pre-referendum pledge of a £350m-a-week spending bonanza for the NHS.


It'll still be £350 Million worth of savings that the EU would have taken wi nowt in return just for them to continue to indulge in their Lavish EU lifestyles of fine dining, fancy wages and beautiful pensions and nice shiny modern buildings in Brussels and Strasbourg....bloody wasteful bunch, we are far better off without them.


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is that a fair enough answer?

oh the lies folk were told


Let us not get onto the subject of "Lies"!, if you listened to the remoaners "The end was nigh".

The bottom line being is this; Do you or anyone for that matter, believe that the Nhs actually needs £350 million PER WEEK i.e. that is times 52 weeks of the year, every year, #-o #-o #-o. What you are listening to is political bitching - there is NOTHING that needs £350 mil per week to put right (save the economy/deficit). Anyone that thought that was the case, has been having numeracy lessons off of Diane Abbott.

This is not a swipe at you; To all those who are pontificating that nonsense - then they really need pulling up over it. I genuinely never for one minute thought, or believed, that our EU contribution/savings, was going to be spent on any (one) single project - how dull are these people saying that it was.

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cabby john wrote:
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is that a fair enough answer?

oh the lies folk were told


Let us not get onto the subject of "Lies"!, if you listened to the remoaners "The end was nigh".

The bottom line being is this; Do you or anyone for that matter, believe that the Nhs actually needs £350 million PER WEEK i.e. that is times 52 weeks of the year, every year, #-o #-o #-o. What you are listening to is political bitching - there is NOTHING that needs £350 mil per week to put right (save the economy/deficit). Anyone that thought that was the case, has been having numeracy lessons off of Diane Abbott.

This is not a swipe at you; To all those who are pontificating that nonsense - then they really need pulling up over it. I genuinely never for one minute thought, or believed, that our EU contribution/savings, was going to be spent on any (one) single project - how dull are these people saying that it was.



As grandad has pointed out on more than one occasion - we haven't actually left yet, at that point the remainers claims will be tested.

You are aware how much the pound has fallen in value against both the dollar and euro - its a small point but everything we buy from abroad is more expensive now - we haven't felt the effect yet in respect of oil, which is bought in dollars, but arguably we would have had more benefit if the pound had been stronger.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:26 pm 
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captain cab wrote:
cabby john wrote:
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is that a fair enough answer?

oh the lies folk were told


Let us not get onto the subject of "Lies"!, if you listened to the remoaners "The end was nigh".

The bottom line being is this; Do you or anyone for that matter, believe that the Nhs actually needs £350 million PER WEEK i.e. that is times 52 weeks of the year, every year, #-o #-o #-o. What you are listening to is political bitching - there is NOTHING that needs £350 mil per week to put right (save the economy/deficit). Anyone that thought that was the case, has been having numeracy lessons off of Diane Abbott.

This is not a swipe at you; To all those who are pontificating that nonsense - then they really need pulling up over it. I genuinely never for one minute thought, or believed, that our EU contribution/savings, was going to be spent on any (one) single project - how dull are these people saying that it was.



As grandad has pointed out on more than one occasion - we haven't actually left yet, at that point the remainers claims will be tested.

You are aware how much the pound has fallen in value against both the dollar and euro - its a small point but everything we buy from abroad is more expensive now - we haven't felt the effect yet in respect of oil, which is bought in dollars, but arguably we would have had more benefit if the pound had been stronger.


We are an Island who was self sufficient with oil and fuel,the Tories sold off all the oil and gas,closed the coal mines and we now have to import at much greater cost the materials to sustain our Islands.Many Tories lined their pockets along with their rich friends at the expense of these Islands inhabitants who will be paying this greater cost for evermore that is until Jeremy gets elected,which will not be long as people are not going to put up with a corrupt government who buys votes to stay in power.
Jeremy wants to investigate where her magic money tree is,she has found one but accused Jeremy of making it all up before the election and having an invisible money tree.


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We are an Island who was self sufficient with oil and fuel,the Tories sold off all the oil and gas,closed the coal mines and we now have to import at much greater cost the materials to sustain our Islands.Many Tories lined their pockets along with their rich friends at the expense of these Islands inhabitants who will be paying this greater cost for evermore that is until Jeremy gets elected,which will not be long as people are not going to put up with a corrupt government who buys votes to stay in power.
Jeremy wants to investigate where her magic money tree is,she has found one but accused Jeremy of making it all up before the election and having an invisible money tree.


almost half our trade is directly with Europe - and a bit more of it is through trade deals we have with the rest of the world through our EU membership - the entire idea is a bad one.

If we leave and want to still trade with Europe, our products will still have to adhere to EU standards - in effect we will still be governed but without any input.

If we leave and the EU citizens depart, we will have nobody in the country to run the country, nurses, doctors, fish packers, factory workers, hotel workers.

Why don't we put this entire idea down to a bad idea, inept politicians on one side, and lying, racist politicians on the other..

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captain cab wrote:
cabby john wrote:
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is that a fair enough answer?

oh the lies folk were told


Let us not get onto the subject of "Lies"!, if you listened to the remoaners "The end was nigh".

The bottom line being is this; Do you or anyone for that matter, believe that the Nhs actually needs £350 million PER WEEK i.e. that is times 52 weeks of the year, every year, #-o #-o #-o. What you are listening to is political bitching - there is NOTHING that needs £350 mil per week to put right (save the economy/deficit). Anyone that thought that was the case, has been having numeracy lessons off of Diane Abbott.

This is not a swipe at you; To all those who are pontificating that nonsense - then they really need pulling up over it. I genuinely never for one minute thought, or believed, that our EU contribution/savings, was going to be spent on any (one) single project - how dull are these people saying that it was.



As grandad has pointed out on more than one occasion - we haven't actually left yet, at that point the remainers claims will be tested.

You are aware how much the pound has fallen in value against both the dollar and euro - its a small point but everything we buy from abroad is more expensive now - we haven't felt the effect yet in respect of oil, which is bought in dollars, but arguably we would have had more benefit if the pound had been stronger.


It is a point that has not gone unnoticed.

My take on it for what it is worth, is that it shows how much Stock Markets control world economies/governments. On that one, the City is one possible immediate casualty of Brexit, as such it is in their interest to stir up as much adverse poop as they can, via financial manipulation. Talking of manipulation, the markets scare the pound down, strangely the stock market goes up :roll: ......now that is having your cake and eating it. Imo it is going to be a roller coaster ride (in or out) re the markets, as such not a lot will change (financially) for the man/woman in the street as one problem will be replaced by another, (we are not meant to win on that score). Hopefully the reward of being out of the EU, will be a better quality of life in the form of safety/security - along with the satisfaction of knowing that we do not belong to a corrupt organisation........we can watch it fail from a distance. As a point of interest - Italy is now propping a few of its Banks up, as their banking system is hitting the rails!

How many countries have to fail, before people realise that the EU is engineering financial failures deliberately in order to own said countries?

I have looked at the EU with an open mind, trying to see the benefits of a 40 year + membership and who apart from Germany is in surplus - the answer will fit on a babies fingernail.

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I have looked at the EU with an open mind, trying to see the benefits of a 40 year + membership and who apart from Germany is in surplus - the answer will fit on a babies fingernail.


so the pre EU 70's were good?

not so sure on that one

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I have looked at the EU with an open mind, trying to see the benefits of a 40 year + membership and who apart from Germany is in surplus - the answer will fit on a babies fingernail.


so the pre EU 70's were good?

not so sure on that one


Ha ha, a classic case of a full circle.......I think that we have already been through that one :roll:

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Ha ha, a classic case of a full circle.......I think that we have already been through that one :roll:


Do you think we will, and our children will be better off?

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It is a point that has not gone unnoticed.

My take on it for what it is worth, is that it shows how much Stock Markets control world economies/governments. On that one, the City is one possible immediate casualty of Brexit, as such it is in their interest to stir up as much adverse poop as they can, via financial manipulation. Talking of manipulation, the markets scare the pound down, strangely the stock market goes up :roll: ......now that is having your cake and eating it. Imo it is going to be a roller coaster ride (in or out) re the markets, as such not a lot will change (financially) for the man/woman in the street as one problem will be replaced by another, (we are not meant to win on that score). Hopefully the reward of being out of the EU, will be a better quality of life in the form of safety/security - along with the satisfaction of knowing that we do not belong to a corrupt organisation........we can watch it fail from a distance. As a point of interest - Italy is now propping a few of its Banks up, as their banking system is hitting the rails!

How many countries have to fail, before people realise that the EU is engineering financial failures deliberately in order to own said countries?

I have looked at the EU with an open mind, trying to see the benefits of a 40 year + membership and who apart from Germany is in surplus - the answer will fit on a babies fingernail.


The EU need over £40billion to plug a massive black hole. They haven't got that sort of money.


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Ha ha, a classic case of a full circle.......I think that we have already been through that one :roll:


Do you think we will, and our children will be better off?


You have confused me on the above, (probably its me). Could you rephrase/explain your questions.

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