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Author:  edders23 [ Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:51 am ]
Post subject:  Merkel says NO DEAL

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49970267

A No 10 source says a Brexit deal is "essentially impossible" after a call between the PM and Angela Merkel.
Boris Johnson spoke to the German chancellor earlier about the proposals he put forward to the EU - but the source said she made clear a deal based on them was "overwhelmingly unlikely".

They also claimed she said a deal would never be possible unless Northern Ireland stayed in a customs union.


Inevitable really the EU want to protect Irelands position they always have. The only way a Brexit deal is remotely possible is to offer to separate Northern Ireland from the rest of the UK.

I think she also wants to force the PM to ask for an extension which the EU will vote in favour of

Author:  grandad [ Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Merkel says NO DEAL

edders23 wrote:

I think she also wants to force the PM to ask for an extension which the EU will vote in favour of

The only reason for an extension is if a deal is close. As stated, a deal is not possible then there should be no agreement for an extension.
If I were Boris I would be on the phone to Nigel Farage and tell him that it is over to him to make life in the EU Hell.

Author:  Sussex [ Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Merkel says NO DEAL

Thing is if parliament hadn't acted like a bunch of knobs recently then, IMO, it would be almost guaranteed that a deal would have been done by the 31/10.

Now there still might be a deal, but the chances are now less since the idiots voted for the Benn deal.

Author:  edders23 [ Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Merkel says NO DEAL

the BENN act wasn't a proposed deal it was just a requirement in law to get one which means the EU have us by the short and curlies we now have no choice but to vote for TM's atrociously bad deal or keep this whole mess rumbling on and on

Author:  grandad [ Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Merkel says NO DEAL

edders23 wrote:
we now have no choice but to vote for TM's atrociously bad deal or keep this whole mess rumbling on and on

Rubbish.

Author:  edders23 [ Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Merkel says NO DEAL

grandad wrote:
edders23 wrote:
we now have no choice but to vote for TM's atrociously bad deal or keep this whole mess rumbling on and on

Rubbish.



would you like to make a more informed comment than that please Pete why is that rubbish in your opinion?

Author:  Sussex [ Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Merkel says NO DEAL

The more I think about it the more I'm certain TM deal was a mess, and if she hadn't been voted in by the Tories as leader the country would now be outside the EU with a deal.

The EU have preyed on the weakness of the Tories majority in Parliament, and the fact that too many MPs realise that they were voted in by the same folks who voted to Leave.

There will be a price to pay for that, and it will be paid soon.

Author:  grandad [ Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Merkel says NO DEAL

Sussex wrote:
The more I think about it the more I'm certain TM deal was a mess, and if she hadn't been voted in by the Tories as leader the country would now be outside the EU with a deal.


Correction: Theresa May was not voted in by the Tories at all. She became the leader after all the other candidates withdrew from the contest leaving her unopposed. There was no vote.

Author:  heathcote [ Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Merkel says NO DEAL

grandad wrote:
Sussex wrote:
The more I think about it the more I'm certain TM deal was a mess, and if she hadn't been voted in by the Tories as leader the country would now be outside the EU with a deal.


Correction: Theresa May was not voted in by the Tories at all. She became the leader after all the other candidates withdrew from the contest leaving her unopposed. There was no vote.


In other words they stitched her up knowing full well it was a poisoned chalice.

Author:  grandad [ Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Merkel says NO DEAL

heathcote wrote:
grandad wrote:
Sussex wrote:
The more I think about it the more I'm certain TM deal was a mess, and if she hadn't been voted in by the Tories as leader the country would now be outside the EU with a deal.


Correction: Theresa May was not voted in by the Tories at all. She became the leader after all the other candidates withdrew from the contest leaving her unopposed. There was no vote.


In other words they stitched her up knowing full well it was a poisoned chalice.

You could put it that way.

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