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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:06 pm 
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So how are the Scottish elections going to pan out now?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-56539696

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:08 pm 
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So how are the Scottish elections going to pan out now?


I can see a disaster in the making here, 2 fractions supposed to be of the same ilk, led by 2 people who it would appear mislead others and claim they are forgetful, would not trust the one jot.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:09 pm 
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I hope it Splits the Indy vote and keeps the SNP out of power at Holyrood....Wee Eck has quite a big following within the hardcore indy diehards, more than Sturgeon has.


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Launching a new party now this close to the election will be a complete fail for Salmond as there would be no time to build momentum

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:09 pm 
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(This is really aimed at readers south of the border, who may not be familiar with the ins and outs of the Holyrood voting system :-s)

Really requires an understanding of the D'Hondt voting system :roll:

Holyrood has 73 parliamentary seats just like the Westminster system. Salmond's new party isn't standing for them, because they'd get nowhere.

But it also has 56 seats under a regional voting system, and that's intended to be some kind of proportional representation. That's where Salmond's Alba Party hopes to make an impact.

But it's not just a straightforward PR system. If a party does well in the ordinary seats, it won't be allocated so many in the regional seats.

So because last time round the SNP got a shedload of the ordinary seats, it hardly got any in the D'Hondt regional seats, even though it got a shedload of votes in the latter.

So Salmond is hoping that if pro-indy people vote SNP in the standard seats as normal, they will vote Alba in the D'Hondt seats, and pick up a few seats that way. Basically, a vote for Alba in the D'Hondt seats would be more effective for independence supporters than a vote for the SNP.

Indeed, that's how the Greens have picked up a few seats over the years, and they are basically Sturgeon's little helpers at Holyrood. They don't stand in the ordinary seats because that would be pointless, but manage to pick up a few of the D'Hondt seats in the regional vote (also called the list vote, 'additional member' seats etc.)

So basically Scottish voters have two votes in Holyrood elections - one in the normal seats for the normal candidates, but in the second D'Hondt vote we vote for a *party*, and the seats are allocated that way. There are eight regions in Scotland and each region elects seven MSPs each.

So basically Salmond's Alba wants to do what the Greens have been doing for years, and pick up pro-indy votes in the regional seats that would otherwise be wasted on the SNP.

(Of course, politically Salmond's Alba probably closer to Farage's UKIP than the cuddly and 'progressive' Sturgeonite wing of the SNP. Meanwhile, the Greens are the opposite, and think, for example, that someone with a penis can call themselves a woman if they so wish :shock: )

So all this week Sturgeon, her acolytes and sympathetic commentators have been trying to monster Alba as a party of oddballs, cranks and obsessives. And they certainly have a bit of a point, and of course the subtext to it all is that Salmond is guilty as hell, and somehow he just 'got off' the sexual assault charges :shock:

Anway, it all seems to be working, with the first opinion poll apparently showing Alba on 3%. Which might get Salmond elected (they'll probably get more than 3% in the region Salmond is standing in) but that's about it. I think they were expecting at least 10%, which might have gained them a handful of seats.

But for me, the more they monster Salmond and his acolytes, the more this demonstrates the extent of the cover up over the years, and the degree to which indy 'moderates' were willing to accomodate some pretty unattractive bedfellows. Which I could easily write 10,000 words on, but won't bore anyone south of the border with the details. Assuming any have had the fortitude to even read this far :roll:


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:10 pm 
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Anyway, here's one good reason not to trust the Sturgeonites either - they've been siphoning off Covid grant money for SNP branches [-X

And it's also being claimed that they're using Covid grant money from Westminster for pre-election freebies, handouts and bribes. Who'd have expected that? [-(

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The longer a political party stays in power the more they think they can take liberties without redress. Especially at a local level.

Those chickens always come home to roost.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 3:50 am 
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Latest poll in the *regional* seats:

SNP: 39%
Tories: 21%
Labour: 17%
Greens: 8%
Alba: 6%
LibDems: 5% :lol:
All4Unity: 4%

Which is probably a more realistic representation of Alba's support than the 3% in last week's poll, and would see Salmond elected, and a few others in his party as well.

Also interesting is Alliance for Unity, which is effectively the polar opposite of Alba on the Unionist side.

But it's led by George Galloway (who's seems to have swung a bit to the right in recent years), and 4% could well return Galloway to Holyrood :-o

So Sturgeon's a shoo-in for first minister, but with Salmond and Galloway in the parliament that would certainly liven things up a bit :p


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The fur's flying in the SNP v Alba war :badgrin:

This is the result of a complaint from an Alba activist:

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This is the result of a complaint from an SNP MP:

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 5:15 pm 
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Could be wrong, but can't see either complaint coming to much. Probably close to 'vexatious', but police have to at least take a statement, then the press will make a big splash about it all without actually saying anything particularly concrete.

I mean, this is the pro-Alba activist who made the complaint about the SNP's finances. A well known crank called Sean Clerkin:

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He was actually arrested over that banner at Edinburgh Airport, but I'm not sure what come of that, or whether it's actually been resolved yet.

But he's also well known for frivilous/trumped up complaints.

In fact he was actually convicted on a charge of wasting police time:


Scottish Resistance campaigner Sean Clerkin convicted of wasting police time over fake assault claim

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/155 ... ult-claim/

A pro-independence campaigner who claiming he had been assaulted at a Tory party election event has been convicted of wasting police time.


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Meanwhile, the SNP MP responsible for the complaint against the Alba member is also a well known headbanger:

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This is him - sounds like a real charmer:

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Although police initially took no action over that incident, he was eventually charged (as per latter two paragraphs in the graphic) but not sure what happened about that either, although it all happened last year sometime, so maybe Covid etc has delayed things. And an election :roll:


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 6:18 pm 
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Basket cases. ](*,)

It reminds me of the Parish Council meeting that made world headlines via YouTube.

Surely surely Scotland can do better than them?

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Surely surely Scotland can do better than them?


and are we any better looking at the current levels of protest and unrest always brings out the head cases :?:

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Any neutrals south of the border have any views on the SNP's latest PPB?

It's the usual anti-Westminster, anti-Boris hypocritical sanctimony stuff, just notched up a gear.

But there's a particular few seconds near the middle that's got everyone talking, or at least the visuals have got everyone talking. Not difficult to spot:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1379484798251626497


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