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So they could stop and then somebody apply for a licence and challenge them. They would have to then prove there was no unmet demand by doing a survey?


The act doesnt say survey.....just be satisfied theres no sud.......so basically yes....they must have some type of evidence to present to a court.

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As Reading is very close to Bracknall an area the GMB PDB are working in trying to re-introduce limatation, I spoke to a Licensing officer who informed me that the Licensing Committee had taken this decision against advice :shock: I would like to congratulate these councilors on making a decision based on common sense and ignoring the Brownite Free marketers who are destroying our industry (In my opinion). One final point of interest Reading has a hung council, with the Blues and Reds sharing control!!!

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GMB PDB are working in trying to re-introduce limatation,


Shame on you! Call yourself a trade union. [-X

This puts the interests of carpetbaggers and plate barons above those of the working man.
That's a strange kind of socialism which would have made Thatcher very proud :?

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That's a strange kind of socialism which would have made Thatcher very proud :?

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Trade is so bad in Reading that the council recently caught 18 'out of district' hackneys plying for hire in the city on a Saturday night.

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GMB PDB are working in trying to re-introduce limatation,


Shame on you! Call yourself a trade union. [-X

This puts the interests of carpetbaggers and plate barons above those of the working man.
That's a strange kind of socialism which would have made Thatcher very proud :?


Mr Gusmac,

I do believe you have completley got hold of the wrong end of the stick.

1. ''If you look at society today, although socialism is widely held by the establishment to be out-dated and so on, you will find the things that are the most popular in Britain are those little pockets of socialism where areas of life have been excluded from the crude operation of market forces and are protected for the benefit of the community." A quote from Tony Benn a true socialist.

2. Please tell me where our Union has stated it supports carpetbaggers and plate barons?

3. I would say that your belief in market forces are a clear example of Thatcherite capitalism. Lets throw everyone in the pool and see who drowns!!!

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1. ''If you look at society today, although socialism is widely held by the establishment to be out-dated and so on, you will find the things that are the most popular in Britain are those little pockets of socialism where areas of life have been excluded from the crude operation of market forces and are protected for the benefit of the community." A quote from Tony Benn a true socialist.


A quote from nine years ago. Do you really think he meant that the working man should be delivered into the clutches of the greedy, with help from the very unions which claim to protect him?
You're having a laugh, surely?

In case you've forgotten, socialism = state control for the good of the many, not private control for the profit of the few.

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2. Please tell me where our Union has stated it supports carpetbaggers and plate barons?

Limited numbers attract carpetbaggers and plate barons like sh*t attracts flies. Without a change in the law it is inevitable.
Supporting such a policy is supporting them. You don't have to say it. Actions speak louder than words.

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3. I would say that your belief in market forces are a clear example of Thatcherite capitalism. Lets throw everyone in the pool and see who drowns!!!


Your approach is more akin to handing out free swimming trunks, then letting the first couple of dozen swimmers decide who else gets to swim, and how much they should charge them for the privelige.

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1. ''If you look at society today, although socialism is widely held by the establishment to be out-dated and so on, you will find the things that are the most popular in Britain are those little pockets of socialism where areas of life have been excluded from the crude operation of market forces and are protected for the benefit of the community." A quote from Tony Benn a true socialist.


A quote from nine years ago. Do you really think he meant that the working man should be delivered into the clutches of the greedy, with help from the very unions which claim to protect him?
You're having a laugh, surely?

In case you've forgotten, socialism = state control for the good of the many, not private control for the profit of the few.


I understand now, because the law would have to change to stop carpetbaggars and multiple plate owners, you believe that the answer is market forces, rather than look for a way to solve issues which are problematic, which if solved, would leave the drivers in the industry far better off.

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2. Please tell me where our Union has stated it supports carpetbaggers and plate barons?

Limited numbers attract carpetbaggers and plate barons like sh*t attracts flies. Without a change in the law it is inevitable.
Supporting such a policy is supporting them. You don't have to say it. Actions speak louder than words.


You can't so you decide because the GMB PDB supports a policy of limatation within our industry you presume we support carpetbaggers and multiple plate owners.

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3. I would say that your belief in market forces are a clear example of Thatcherite capitalism. Lets throw everyone in the pool and see who drowns!!!

Your approach is more akin to handing out free swimming trunks, then letting the first couple of dozen swimmers decide who else gets to swim, and how much they should charge them for the privelige.


No your presuming again without any facts!

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I understand now, because the law would have to change to stop carpetbaggars and multiple plate owners, you believe that the answer is market forces, rather than look for a way to solve issues which are problematic, which if solved, would leave the drivers in the industry far better off.


No, you don't understand at all.
You can't change the law of the land and neither can this council.
As soon as numbers are restricted, you will create an artificial market in rentals. Drivers will then have to compete against new guys who have an owner to pay every week, as well as make a living. Cabs will end up double shifted round the clock, with no halt in the rising competition.
All on the back of a shrinking customer base.
That adds up to more working hours for everyone, not less.
HTF is turning the clock back going to stop any of that from happening?

Over supply of cabs is not the problem - it never has been.
It's oversupply of drivers which is the problem.
That is what your union should be addressing, instead of creating an exploiters' paradise.

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You can't so you decide because the GMB PDB supports a policy of limatation within our industry you presume we support carpetbaggers and multiple plate owners.


You can't stop carpetbaggers and plate barons from profiting from your policy, whether you like it or not. Your policy provides them with what they need to thrive.
Have your union thought this through properly? or there is another reason for this policy?

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No your presuming again without any facts!

Am I?
I don't think I'm the only one.

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Over supply of cabs is not the problem - it never has been.
It's oversupply of drivers which is the problem.

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1. ''If you look at society today, although socialism is widely held by the establishment to be out-dated and so on, you will find the things that are the most popular in Britain are those little pockets of socialism where areas of life have been excluded from the crude operation of market forces


do you have an exmple in mind?

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Trade is so bad in Reading that the council recently caught 18 'out of district' hackneys plying for hire in the city on a Saturday night.
I doubt the council would have been hard pressed to acheive the same result regardless of the economic climate

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