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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:34 pm 
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Well get him on and let him tell us how it's worked out for him, because it obviously is not working for the rest of them.

Alas he was on one of the first taxi/PH forums which is now no-more.

Can't understand why it is no-more when you had the Gateshead liar as the North East rep, and the Mansfield liar as the Midlands rep. :lol: :lol:

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What happened to the Guy from sheffield, is he one of the ones now protesting?

I expect his is busy earning a living, and he was one of the nicest guys I've ever come across on a taxi/PH website.

Was a journeymen and got his plate when Sheffield de-limited. He told the liars as it was, not how the liars wished it to be. :wink:


Are you sure he was not OLGA the long distance lorry driver....mrT..


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"I rent Cabs out in a deregulated area and theyre no cheaper now than before deregulation. Possibly because insurance has gone up, servicing has gone up, labour and parts have gone up. "

you forgot youre profits going up also :lol: :lol: :lol:


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"I rent Cabs out in a deregulated area and theyre no cheaper now than before deregulation. Possibly because insurance has gone up, servicing has gone up, labour and parts have gone up. "

you forgot youre profits going up also :lol: :lol: :lol:



I think he will know his own area , and whats going on in it, why should he say different?


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eh! :?



Where does he say his profits have gone up?


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Yes I believe they could and do, not because the amount would affect each others level of business, but under the planning and licensing regimes, what about telling business's to close at certain times, there is no freedom to do as you please when you think about it, I think the planning can be worse than the licensing.


Well all businesses are regulated, but you're confusing qualitative, safety, environmental etc restrictions rather than the more arbitrary quantitative restrictions imposed on the taxi trade.

Anyone who knows anything about the real work of commerce, business and regulation will appreciate the difference, that's why so few people other than the vested interests have anything good to say about restricted taxi numbers.

But I suspect you know that, but admitting the truth clearly wouldn't be in your interest.



An interesting story in todays Edinburgh Evening news.

http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/edinb ... 1728432005


"But Paul Waterson, chief executive of the Scottish Licensed Trade Association, said: "While I don't want to comment on any individual cases, there's no doubt that Edinburgh already has a major problem with the over-provision of licensed premises.

"We would agree with what the police are saying about over-provision in this part of Edinburgh, but they're merely coming around to our way of thinking. We've been saying this for years."


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eh! :?



Where does he say his profits have gone up?
my attempt at sarcastic humor!

sorry if you didnt get it :cry:


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so yet another business cannot expand why?

becouse lothian and borders finest dont want to deal with disorder?

isnt that what we pay them huge amounts of money for?

from the same article quote "Lothian and Borders deputy chief constable Malcolm Dickson warned licensing chiefs that the area in and around George Street was already over-subscribed with pubs and clubs and that any more would spark a rise in disorder."

does he have the statistics to back this up?


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Well I do not think they have been stopped from doing it , the story says that they are going to do it, good luck to them as well , they have some of the most popular places in Edinburgh, and some higher quality premises are always a welcome addition.

The point I was trying to make was that the Police had tried to stop them as they felt the area was over subscribed with pubs and clubs, this was in relation to TDO's posts on the subject.

I dont know much about these issues, it was just to point out that planning and Licensing must share some common ground in relation to these things, the two seem entwined in the same sort of issues.


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Change is okay, but change for the sake of change, I dont know?


It's hardly just for the sake of change.

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well I do not not know for sure that I do support quotas per se, but I dont know if I support total de-limiting in the Local if that is not what the people want, I think this has turned into a wider issue for me,


Well at the end of the day these issues are decided by our elected representatives, that may not be perfect, but it's what we have to live with regards most facets of government. I can't see referendums on restritcted taxi numbers, for example.

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The other thing that I would be concerned about is those drivers that do not wish to purchase a vehicle and go through the new high quality! mind altering driver training, what happens there?

Would they be forced to puchase a vehicle of their own because there would not be so many people looking for someone to rent their Cab?


Well what happens in London and the majority of UK LAs at the present?

Is any taxi driver in the UK forced to buy a vehicle because they can't find someone to give them a shift?

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Obviously a rural market town in Shropshire may be somewhat different, especialy in the quiet months.


Yes, and as a consequence there will be less taxis than in London, and less butchers, bakers and candlestick makers, so I can't really see your point.

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greenbadgecabby wrote:

Yes we are 'deregulated' here in London, but are 'quality' controlled by means of an average two and a half years of non earning whilst on the 'K'.



Yes, well said GBC, still top of the tree and not a quota in site.

And many of the hypocrites in the provincial trade want to move to the most minimal quality control.

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