Taxi Driver Online

I have read through the report and minutes of this meeting, a number of things strike me, firstly, the local taxi association in one sense deserve all they get, i note that the T&G response to the OFT was included, yet this response was basically crap compared to others.

They also include responses from the DFT to PHM, this was designed to make PHM more important than it actually is.

If they had attended the NTA agm, the council and TOA would have heard the DFT state that councils shouldnt be acting in the manner they are.

The report of the council is innaccurate, the stratigic plan implications are not conclusions they are mere speculation, virtually all new hackney proprietors will come from PH. Thus not increasing employment at all.

The conclusion also states that it will make a better service for the disabled, again this is speculative, as the new HC's may not be attached to radio circuits.

Point three fails to recognise that drivers will work when its busy, rather than the inferred quiet periods, during early mornings and late evenings.

They have also failed to consider any impact the delimitation will have towards their LTP.

But then, if there members of the T&G, SCATA or NPHA, they deserve all they get.

regards

Captain cab

Which is most probably why the council voted 12 to 0 to accept the LO's views, and ignore the T&G scare-mongering.

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IDFIMH

Here is the latest list with comments attributed to many of the authorities concerned. There are many who have intimated that they would like to keep their current policy and some have expressed the exact opposite. One or two have confided in me that there will be a policy change but at this moment in time I am not at Liberty to state which councils they are.

Best wishes

JD

1 Ashford. Restricted, to be reviewed early 2005.
2 Aylesbury Vale. Restricted
3 Babergh. Restricted
4 Barnsley. Survey commissioned on unmet demand for the services of Taxis.
5 Barrow in Furness. Restricted
6 Basildon. Restricted.
7 Basingstoke. Restricted
8 Bath and North East Somerset ua. Restricted
9 Bedford. Restricted.
10 Blackburn Darwen ua. Consultation on deregulation underway, scheduled to finish end Nov.
11 Blackpool. 256 hacks, 44 horse drawn. Intention is to keep a numbers policy.
12 Blyth Valley. 41 hacks, decision on change of policy early 2005.
13 Bolton. Restricted.
14 Bournemouth ua. Restricted
15 Bradford. Restricted. Policy to be reviewed Before Jan 2005
16 Braintree. Restricted
17 Brighton and Hove ua. Restricted.
18 Burnley. Restricted
19 Carrick. Conducting a survey.
20 Cherwell. Policy currently under review.
20 Chester. Restricted, licensing meeting on December 9.
21 Chester le street. Restricted
22 Chorley. Review policy early 2005.
23 Colchester. Restricted
24 Congleton. Restricted
25 Conwy. Restricted
26 Copeland. Restricted
27 Corby. Restricted
28 Denbighshire. Restricted
29 Dover. Restricted
30 Durham. Restricted
31 Easington. Restricted
East Lindsey. Latest authority to remove restrictions. All new licences will be WAV.
32 East Riding. Restricted
33 Eastbourne. Restricted
34 Eastleigh. Internal report under consideration.
35 Ellesmere Port. Restricted
36 Exeter. Decision imminent.
37 Fylde. Restricted
38 Gosport. Restricted
39 Great Yarmouth. Restricted
40 Gwynedd. Restricted
41 Halton ua. Restricted
42 Harrogate. Restricted
43 Havant. Restricted
44 High Peak. Restricted
45 Huntingdonshire. Restricted
46 Hyndburn. Restricted
47 Ipswich. Restricted
48 Kerrier. Restricted
49 Kettering. Restricted
50 Kings Lynn. Restricted
51 Kingston upon Hull. Restricted
52 Kirklees. Restricted
53 Lancaster. Restricted to 105 H/C
54 Leeds. Council has expressed a preference for de restriction, consultations currently underway.
55 Leicester. Restricted
56 Lincoln. Undertaking unmet demand survey.
57 Liverpool. Restricted
58 Luton ua. Restricted
59 Maidstone. Restricted
60 Manchester. Restricted. Has a policy of issuing 20/25 new licences annually.
61 Merthyr Tydfil. Decision imminent.
62 Middlesbrough ua. Restricted
63 Mole Valley. Restricted
64 New Forest. Report for consideration to be presented to committee members in January 2005
65 Newcastle on Tyne. Restricted.
66 Newcastle under Lyme. Restricted
*North East Lincolnshire ua. Voted to de limit numbers October 2004. Official date to be announced.
67 Nottingham. Undertaking an unmet demand survey.
68 Oldham. Restricted.
69 Oxford. Restricted
70 Pendle. Restricted
71 Penwith. Restricted
72 Plymouth ua. Pending, to be announced in December
73 Poole ua. Restricted
74 Portsmouth ua. Restricted
75 Preston. Restricted
76 Reading ua. Restricted, policy change unlikely.
77 Reigate and Banstead. Restricted
78 Restormal. Restricted
79 Ribble Valley. Restricted.
80 Richmondshire. Restricted. Undertaking unmet demand survey. Halcrow.
81 Rochdale. Restricted
82 Rotherham. Restricted
83 Rugby. Conducting an unmet demand survey to consider options.
84 Salford. Presently addressing the Government guidance could possibly commission local survey.
85 Scarborough. Restricted
86 Sefton. Restricted
*Slough. Decision to delimit numbers taken in October, possible WAV vehicle condition on license.
*Solihull removing quotas in March 2005
87 South Bedfordshire. Restricted
88 South Ribble. Restricted
89 South Tyneside. Restricted
90 Southampton ua. Restricted
91 Southend on sea ua. Restricted
92 St Edmundsbury. Restricted
93 St Helens. Unmet demand survey being conducted early 2005.
94 Stevenage. Restricted
95 Stockport. Restricted.
96 Stoke on Trent ua. Restricted
97 Swindon ua. Restricted
98 Tameside. Restricted
99 Teignbridge. Restricted
100 Test Valley. Restricted to 34 H/C, policy to be reviewed shortly in line with DFT request.
101 Thanet. Restricted
102 Thurrock ua. Restricted
103 Torbay ua. Restricted
104 Torfaen. Restricted.
105 Torridge. Decision on quotas imminent.
106 Trafford. Restricted.
107 Tunbridge wells. Restricted
108 Wakefield. Undertaking unmet demand survey.
109 Walsall. Review expected on 25 November 2004 Licensing Committee meeting.
110 Wansbeck. Policy under review. 30 H/C vehicles.
111 Warrington ua. Restricted
112 Watford. Restricted
113 West Somerset. Policy under review.
114 Weymouth. Restricted
115 Wigan. Restricted
116 Windsor and Maidenhead ua. Restricted
117 Wolverhampton. Decision on quotas imminent.
118 Worthing. Current policy managed growth. Wav only. Conducting survey to measure demand.
119 Wrexham. Restricted
120 Wycombe. Restricted
121 Wyre. Restricted
122 Wyre Forest. Provisional decision has been made to de-restrict numbers, ratification is imminent.
123 York ua. Policy under review.

That's why TDO has a PM facility.

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IDFIMH

Quite right as well, I mean the high quality fleet they have would be in danger if it wasn't for restricted numbers

I knew there was a reason for retaining the 1867 Act

I went up to blackpool earlier this year and the motor driven cabs really dont like the horse drawn ones.
But the black cabs shouldnt have to much to say because most of there vehicles are older than the tower.

c gull
not many like the horse drawn as the chit lingers in the air

did you tell the Blackpool boys about cartel city?

lol I'm surprised no one noticed this. Anyway I've more or less done the list and I have put it in PDF format as well as doc format.

The actuall number of Councils that restrict are 124 not 123. The percentage is 30.84%.

Best wishes

JD

I wonder if Durham will now issue more in spite. Having just lost a mini battle over vehicle colour.

Cabbies win court fight over car colour

TAXI drivers are celebrating after winning their appeal against the introduction of a controversial colour policy.

Earlier this year, Durham City Council decided that the city's fleet of hackney carriages should eventually all be white.

Drivers and operators objected, saying that people would not be able to tell local cabs from those from neighbouring areas, such as Chester-le-Street and Sunderland, if a problem arose

They also said it would create difficulties, as many manufacturers did not make white cars as standard and drivers would face two-month waits for vehicles or having to pay for re-sprays.

Now the city's magistrates have overturned the council's decision after Adrian Fets, chairman of the Durham Independent Taxi Association, lodged an appeal.

The council has three-weeks to appeal against the decision.

Mr Fets said: "We were awarded costs. It has cost the council thousands of pounds of council taxpayers' money. It is an absolute disgrace.

"The council didn't put forward any reasonable reason for the cars to be white, except that other vehicles in the county were white."

Bryan Roland, secretary of the National Private Hire Association, said: "The legislation says rules imposed on taxis have to be reasonably necessary."

The council's Liberal Democrat leader, Fraser Reynolds, said the council would look at the court's ruling and consider whether to appeal.

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IDFIMH

Well I'm glad these guys won. The stockport case set a precedent and it was upheld here, albeit by a magistrate. It doesn't augur well for those Authorities like Manchester and London who exclude certain types of vehicles because of the Turning circle.

It also throws out the window the advice some Licensing officers have been giving committee members with regard to what they can do regarding vehicles.

Best wishes

JD

What do you expect from a Council that has a licensing officer in charge who F***ED up Gateshead many years ago.

I thought it was the local T&G that did that.

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IDFIMH

Before the T&G came in.

JD, I think you have missed the wonderful ( ) town of Hastings.

They still restrict, but methinks for not much longer.

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=866

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IDFIMH