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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 7:41 pm 
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Well only the future will tell, And by then it may have wrecked the trade.


Now I've been in this trade a little while, not as long as some, but more than most, and it is without doubt the home of the biggest doom-mongers in any trade.

Despite what the other mongers say (the scare variety), drivers still earn money in de-limited areas. If they don't, then you have to wonder what the flip they are doing in it. :? :?

Take the example of Sheffield given by OFT.

Some in the union trade say that because customer waiting times are much the same following de-limitation, it's been a huge disaster.

What those pratts haven't grasped, is that if you have 50% more vehicles, and customer waiting times have remained static, then you have 50% more customers.

Now to me that's a massive success. It shows that if you give customers a better service, in time they we reward you with more custom.



As a trade we are teribly narrow minded, how the hell we moved from horses to mechanical vehicles is one of the worlds wonders.

you too Sussex have a closed mind, especialy when unions are mentioned :roll:

for every problem there is a solution, unfortunatly your solutions seem to create more problems.


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As a trade we are teribly narrow minded, how the hell we moved from horses to mechanical vehicles is one of the worlds wonders.

you too Sussex have a closed mind, especialy when unions are mentioned :roll:

for every problem there is a solution, unfortunatly your solutions seem to create more problems.


What giving customers what they want i.e. US,
and giving us what we want i.e. CUSTOMERS?

It's a win win situation for those of us with foresight. :wink:

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As a trade we are teribly narrow minded, how the hell we moved from horses to mechanical vehicles is one of the worlds wonders.

you too Sussex have a closed mind, especialy when unions are mentioned :roll:

for every problem there is a solution, unfortunatly your solutions seem to create more problems.


What giving customers what they want i.e. US,
and giving us what we want i.e. CUSTOMERS?

It's a win win situation for those of us with foresight. :wink:




no didnt say any othe that Sussex
you aint forsight what you have is hindsight
to few customers want us as you describe the trade, we are a last resort.
your saving grace is that you dont pick up a uinion manual to see what the solution is to a problem, however you do seem to come up with solutions that have been tried and failed.

your solutions will give rise to more problems to be solved.

bit like just opening numbers for taxis, that in itself is not a solution there needs to be something else as well.

you miss out that something.


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Well, I based my post on the facts in the OFT Report, not just what I see from my own eyes.

Hindsight is what I don't like, it's called the status quo.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 11:01 pm 
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Well, I based my post on the facts in the OFT Report, not just what I see from my own eyes.

Hindsight is what I don't like, it's called the status quo.



THE oft REPORT IS HIGH ON CONTENT AND LOW on any real thought out conclusions, and was written by people who dont understand our, trade.

you are saying the same things now as you did prior to the report, and the report does not miss that something.

have a rest you are tired

perhaps you will be able to think tomorow, you are not corresponding with **** now I will not answer you from the trades union manual.

but then isnt that exciting cos you always know the reply from ****


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THE oft REPORT IS HIGH ON CONTENT AND LOW on any real thought out conclusions, and was written by people who dont understand our, trade.


Yes it was written by people who don't understand our trade, but in my opinion that's the best part of it.

If it was written by one side, or the other side of our trade, then I don't think it would be that free from bias. :roll:

OFT may be bias against limiting HC numbers, but I think you will find that's a pretty universal feeling amongst those without a vested plate premium to protect.

The rest of the report says that those councils that could do better, should, and those councils that get it right, should be allowed to keep getting it right.

Ground-breaking no, sensible in parts yes.

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THE oft REPORT IS HIGH ON CONTENT AND LOW on any real thought out conclusions, and was written by people who dont understand our, trade.


Yes it was written by people who don't understand our trade, but in my opinion that's the best part of it.

If it was written by one side, or the other side of our trade, then I don't think it would be that free from bias. :roll:

OFT may be bias against limiting HC numbers, but I think you will find that's a pretty universal feeling amongst those without a vested plate premium to protect.

The rest of the report says that those councils that could do better, should, and those councils that get it right, should be allowed to keep getting it right.

Ground-breaking no, sensible in parts yes.



but we keep going on about it, doesnt change anything at least not yet
the report could and should have been much much better.

it could indeed have made a better united trade, but you and yer mates dont want that do you?


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it could indeed have made a better united trade, but you and yer mates dont want that do you?


What I want is a fair and equal trade, if it's united as well, then fine. If it takes a while to become united, then that's fine as well.

If it never becomes united, then the blame for that lies fairly and squarely with those that have deemed it fit, that some of us should be discriminated against.

And if they don't like it, they can go f*** themselves.

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it could indeed have made a better united trade, but you and yer mates dont want that do you?


What I want is a fair and equal trade, if it's united as well, then fine. If it takes a while to become united, then that's fine as well.

If it never becomes united, then the blame for that lies fairly and squarely with those that have deemed it fit, that some of us should be discriminated against.

And if they don't like it, they can go f*** themselves.


Spoken like a true Christian! :wink:


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 10:50 pm 
I think every company should go to £5 minimum at 11pm and stay there until 7am all the way through the week.


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it could indeed have made a better united trade, but you and yer mates dont want that do you?


What I want is a fair and equal trade, if it's united as well, then fine. If it takes a while to become united, then that's fine as well.

If it never becomes united, then the blame for that lies fairly and squarely with those that have deemed it fit, that some of us should be discriminated against.

And if they don't like it, they can go f*** themselves.


how can the trade be equal? look Sussex, I can show you private hire and Hackney drivers who can live a fairly lavish life, good hours and time off at christmas.

off the same ranks and the same offices I can show you people who live real poverty, there are winners and loses and I can tell when a new lad starts on our rank within a week how hes going to be, sometimes after 1 night.

now equal? no way will that ever be!

there will always be winners and losers


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it could indeed have made a better united trade, but you and yer mates dont want that do you?


What I want is a fair and equal trade, if it's united as well, then fine. If it takes a while to become united, then that's fine as well.

If it never becomes united, then the blame for that lies fairly and squarely with those that have deemed it fit, that some of us should be discriminated against.

And if they don't like it, they can go f*** themselves.


Spoken like a true Christian! :wink:


Thankfully the season of goodwill has just passed, so I can now stop biting my lip.

But my point is that if some people wish to remain in the past, then so be it.

If some people wish to ignore the reality of (maybe) the future, then so be it.

More fool them.

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I think every company should go to £5 minimum at 11pm and stay there until 7am all the way through the week.


Now that would make the OFT look a little deeper than they did last year. :roll:

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how can the trade be equal? look Sussex, I can show you private hire and Hackney drivers who can live a fairly lavish life, good hours and time off at christmas.

off the same ranks and the same offices I can show you people who live real poverty, there are winners and loses and I can tell when a new lad starts on our rank within a week how hes going to be, sometimes after 1 night.

now equal? no way will that ever be!

there will always be winners and losers


Of course the takings of some will always be better than others, but my point was that the HC/PH trade should be fair to all, and equally open to all.

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how can the trade be equal? look Sussex, I can show you private hire and Hackney drivers who can live a fairly lavish life, good hours and time off at christmas.

off the same ranks and the same offices I can show you people who live real poverty, there are winners and loses and I can tell when a new lad starts on our rank within a week how hes going to be, sometimes after 1 night.

now equal? no way will that ever be!

there will always be winners and losers


Of course the takings of some will always be better than others, but my point was that the HC/PH trade should be fair to all, and equally open to all.




or equaly restricted like yours?
every trade has has its restrictors, ours are in overdrive sussex,
Sussex we have less that 10 years left b4 the trade will be defunct.


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