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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 9:29 pm 
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I'm trying to work out the compatibility between your stance of fervently supporting restriction in Edinburgh and every other restricted licensing authority in the UK, with your statement that implies people are "mugs" to buy a plate? Are we to believe the Edinburgh cab trade is full of mugs? If so what alternative cure do you prescribe for entry into the Edinburgh trade and the taxi trade in those 28% of restricted authorities in England and Wales?

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Who says I am fevently supporting restriction?

Undersupply is as bad as oversupply, and I still think anyone purchasing a 'plate' are ill advised.

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The reason I said you fervently support restriction is because practically everything you have said or written on the subject in the last twelve months has been one sided and in favour of retaining quantity controls.

If I may jog your memory In December 2005 edition of Taxitalk you wrote about "Scotsmen having the audacity to question the findings of the Edinburgh Jacobs report". The article implied these very same people should forego their legal right to apply for a license because in your opinion doing so would be detrimental to the local taxi trade.

You voiced the opinion that "a tiny proportion of the Edinburgh Taxi trade wanted to dictate to the majority and were seemingly unconcerned who they injured in the process". The article in my opinion is unbalanced, biased and like many of your previous offerings lacks substance. Others might possibly concur with my view and then again some won't. It has to be said however that like so many of your previous articles written in the same vein as this, that without question it demonstrates exactly which side of the fence you pitched your tent.

I suppose it has not gone unnoticed that you and your colleagues at TT consistently publish unbalanced and one-sided articles that are full of innuendo and lies such as the reference made about TDO members looking at naked women while sat at their computer. Perhaps I am being overly critical and I should treat some of the articles written by you and others as just biased personal opinion, rather than arguments based on fact. However, when someone implies "it is permissible for a survey company to make mistakes and that those mistakes should be overlooked", then I'm afraid, your credibility and that of the magazine you write for, might raise more than a few readers eyebrows?

Has it ever crossed your mind that the minorities you speak of in Edinburgh "prefer to visualise what they want for themselves rather than what you or anyone else want for them". Some in Edinburgh might also wonder why you took it upon yourself to preach the Wayne Casey gospel to the local Taxi Trade? You obviously have your reasons even though they were not fully explained in the article?

I expect you don't mind criticism of your comments either past or present, I certainly don't mind you criticising any comment of mine but perhaps now you have found the courage to enter the lions den of "the dark side" as you put it, we might have the opportunity to probe a little deeper into what I consider some of your more bizarre and inaccurate statements?

Anyone wishing to read the Edinburgh article by the Reiver can do so from this link.

http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:df ... =clnk&cd=8

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The reason I said you fervently support restriction is because practically everything you have said or written on the subject in the last twelve months has been one sided and in favour of retaining quantity controls.

If I may jog your memory In December 2005 edition of Taxitalk you wrote about "Scotsmen having the audacity to question the findings of the Edinburgh Jacobs report". The article implied these very same people should forego their legal right to apply for a license because in your opinion doing so would be detrimental to the local taxi trade.

You voiced the opinion that "a tiny proportion of the Edinburgh Taxi trade wanted to dictate to the majority and were seemingly unconcerned who they injured in the process". The article in my opinion is unbalanced, biased and like many of your previous offerings lacks substance. Others might possibly concur with my view and then again some won't. It has to be said however that like so many of your previous articles written in the same vein as this, that without question it demonstrates exactly which side of the fence you pitched your tent.

I suppose it has not gone unnoticed that you and your colleagues at TT consistently publish unbalanced and one-sided articles that are full of innuendo and lies such as the reference made about TDO members looking at naked women while sat at their computer. Perhaps I am being overly critical and I should treat some of the articles written by you and others as just biased personal opinion, rather than arguments based on fact. However, when someone implies "it is permissible for a survey company to make mistakes and that those mistakes should be overlooked", then I'm afraid, your credibility and that of the magazine you write for, might raise more than a few readers eyebrows?

Has it ever crossed your mind that the minorities you speak of in Edinburgh "prefer to visualise what they want for themselves rather than what you or anyone else want for them". Some in Edinburgh might also wonder why you took it upon yourself to preach the Wayne Casey gospel to the local Taxi Trade? You obviously have your reasons even though they were not fully explained in the article?

I expect you don't mind criticism of your comments either past or present, I certainly don't mind you criticising any comment of mine but perhaps now you have found the courage to enter the lions den of "the dark side" as you put it, we might have the opportunity to probe a little deeper into what I consider some of your more bizarre and inaccurate statements?

Anyone wishing to read the Edinburgh article by the Reiver can do so from this link.

http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:df ... =clnk&cd=8


Thank you for the reply JD.

I dont fervently support restriction, but I dont support the unabandonded issuing of licenses regardless of the demand.

If the Edinburgh situation is correct, then as you know, the protagonists will have their day in court and if proved to be correct (as in both Trafford and Plymouth and others) be successful.

I thought that particular article was actually quite well put together, as you should be aware it does extend the boundaries of truth, fiction and obviously the ridiculous.

Concerning the survey companies, it has been written in the magazine about the failings (particularly with reference to Plymouth). Although if you read the Casey Column in the December issue I do actually allude that I wouldnt trust them as far as I could throw them, but they are a necessary evil if restrictions are required.

The opinion voiced that it was a tiny percentage was based on wandering around cab ranks talking to drivers (perhaps I picked a good or bad day depending upon your position).

With reference to naked ladies :shock: It was obviously ridiculous and no offence was intended it was more a case of a bad sense of humour, although if any upset was caused I will promise to apologise in print.

With regards to the survey in Edinburgh it was stated on close scrutiny some things dont make sense. However, the survey company were employed by Edinburgh CC, therefore the people they are responsible to are their employers.

However, in so far as I am aware the only possible causes for alarm in respect of the Edinburgh survey was the telephone bookings situation, how relevent is this in connection to the rank hires? (although that is not meant for a response as thats not the purpose of this reply).

In connection to delimitation I would suggest that a LA has to look at more than just survey results.

'The dark side' references are obviously humourous :wink: I dont think anyone is actually offended.

From what I have seen the 'minorities' in Edinburgh are perfectly able to speak for themselves, however, considering I seem to be upsetting both pro delimitation people and anti delimitation people in Edinburgh at the moment perhaps I am in a minority.

As for the Wayne Casey gospel I suppose people keep reading it :shock: I think I sit into the Jesus Christ position quite well dont you? Although more seriously its a little easier upsetting people.

You are of course free to email me if you have any questions regarding any articles.

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I’ve got to hand it to you Wayne you play to the ignorance of the masses.


What a pile of, I don't know quite what?


There was nothing in it.


Quality Wayne, god only knows you need the praise. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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fae fife i think you have caught that bird flu..... stay away from dead swans,
unless it was you who ran it over
thats my advice


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dundee wav wrote:
fae fife i think you have caught that bird flu..... stay away from dead swans,
unless it was you who ran it over
thats my advice



Go 4 it then tell me the good parts?

BTW the dead swan is on your side of the bridge which explains alot about your post. :wink:

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i was trying to point out to fae fife ,that by asking the question he asked, many posts which have already been posted many times by the same people will be repeated, the dead mute swan (cygnus olor) was found on
the shores of cellardyke about 30 miles south of the tay bridge, if the said swan had met it,s demise north of the bridge it would have been quickly eaten by the local gadgies


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dundee wav wrote:
fae fife i think you have caught that bird flu..... stay away from dead swans,
unless it was you who ran it over
thats my advice


I suppose that's about the nearest I'll get to an answer to my question. :-o


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I just whish I knew how to get money for my plate as the council here only charge £25.00 for a set and £169 for a 1 year operators licence and £69 for a 1 year drivers licence (it should be 3 years for that price)


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I just whish I knew how to get money for my plate as the council here only charge £25.00 for a set and £169 for a 1 year operators licence and £69 for a 1 year drivers licence (it should be 3 years for that price)


Be grateful for the fact your plates are worth nowt, otherwise you might be attacked by the "rat" families as here :lol: :lol: :lol:


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I just whish I knew how to get money for my plate as the council here only charge £25.00 for a set and £169 for a 1 year operators licence and £69 for a 1 year drivers licence (it should be 3 years for that price)


Be grateful for the fact your plates are worth nowt, otherwise you might be attacked by the "rat" families as here :lol: :lol: :lol:


The "rat families" are coming boy and by the time you see them you won't even recognise them? :wink:

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I just whish I knew how to get money for my plate as the council here only charge £25.00 for a set and £169 for a 1 year operators licence and £69 for a 1 year drivers licence (it should be 3 years for that price)


Be grateful for the fact your plates are worth nowt, otherwise you might be attacked by the "rat" families as here :lol: :lol: :lol:


The "rat families" are coming boy and by the time you see them you won't even recognise them? :wink:


Well it seems you are out of the game, there is nothing I fear from you or the other so called "rats", so wheres the problem? :wink:


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jackcab wrote:
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I just whish I knew how to get money for my plate as the council here only charge £25.00 for a set and £169 for a 1 year operators licence and £69 for a 1 year drivers licence (it should be 3 years for that price)


Be grateful for the fact your plates are worth nowt, otherwise you might be attacked by the "rat" families as here :lol: :lol: :lol:


The "rat families" are coming boy and by the time you see them you won't even recognise them? :wink:


Well it seems you are out of the game, there is nothing I fear from you or the other so called "rats", so wheres the problem? :wink:



It would be a big mistake to confuse being "out of the game" with doing nothing :wink: wouldn't you say?

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"Mistake"? How so? :lol:


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"Mistake"? How so? :lol:
Well I could be in the game and doing nothing, not hard these days :lol: :lol: and paying a bloody fortune into the bargain :roll:

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fao fae fife - sent you a pm about this


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