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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:01 pm 
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But we all know how wrong that is. The privatised industries being cases in points. Particularly steel, which is now producing more steel than ever and infinitely more efficiently and cost effectively.

Problem government has is that it encourages local authority ownership and control of public transport systems. They don't want competition.


Good point.....I wonder if youve noticed how cheap the fuel is....and gas...errm and electricity is getting cheaper by the day :roll:

Now what were you saying about market forces? And how come the same products are cheaper in France?

Definately cost effective :roll:

I presume you think it was a good idea closing all those coalmines and shipyards too....after all why should we bother ourselves when we can get it cheaper from abroad......unfortunately those damned jonnie foreigners seem to have the idea that we need them more than they need us now....so they kind of have us over a barrel.....never mind market forces will prevail.

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Yes Captain Cab.

To put down greedy feckers like you who have had it your own way for far too long.

You think you're a good "businessman"? Then compete. And let others do likeways.

But you're not are you? You're just a greedy grasper who can only maintain your little illusion by stopping others from being better than you.

That's why the "drivel" as you put is necessary. When justice reigns supreme, then we can all get on with making some dough.

Did you get it greedo?


Had it my way for too long? Yeah good one....we've been deregulated for 13 years and the public now have no PH and will pay the same fare irrespective of the company they phone......market forces....your having a laugh.

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Fuel? Cheaper in France? Really?

Thing about market forces is that they work so well that vested interests do what they can to circumvent them. It's called a cartel. That's why we the Monopolies Commission and the OFT, hopefully to put a stop to market rigging.

It's not market forces that's increasing the price, it naked commercial greed.

And the Labour government and the EU are allowing them to get away with this.

Which is foolish. Because in the face of 5% inflation, workers, like the recent council workers strike here in Scotland, will not accept only 2.5%. To do so would see your standard of living eroded. Who's going to allow that?


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Had it my way for too long? Yeah good one....we've been deregulated for 13 years and the public now have no PH and will pay the same fare irrespective of the company they phone......market forces....your having a laugh.


CC you dont have to charge whats on the meter, you can charge less if you want.
That's what they mean by competition :wink:


Thanks for the advice skip....but I'll charge whats stated on the meter....and my clooeagues will do the same I figure.

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Fuel? Cheaper in France? Really?

Thing about market forces is that they work so well that vested interests do what they can to circumvent them. It's called a cartel. That's why we the Monopolies Commission and the OFT, hopefully to put a stop to market rigging.

It's not market forces that's increasing the price, it naked commercial greed.

And the Labour government and the EU are allowing them to get away with this.

Which is foolish. Because in the face of 5% inflation, workers, like the recent council workers strike here in Scotland, will not accept only 2.5%. To do so would see your standard of living eroded. Who's going to allow that?


http://www.aaroadwatch.ie/eupetrolprices/

http://www.x-rates.com/d/EUR/table.html

I think its cheaper in France yeah, can you go there and find out?

Sorry, I disagree, its the market that equals greed.

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CC You dont have to charge whats on the meter, you can charge less if you want.

That's what they mean by competition :wink:


That's OK Mr Skippy, as long as I can charge what I like when there are queues for cabs & too many passengers to cope as in snow, Christams & New Year, bus & train strikes.

That's what the free market is all about!

Not being regulated one way only!!!!!

Market forces my asre!!!

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CC You dont have to charge whats on the meter, you can charge less if you want.

That's what they mean by competition :wink:


That's OK Mr Skippy, as long as I can charge what I like when there are queues for cabs & too many passengers to cope as in snow, Christams & New Year, bus & train strikes.

That's what the free market is all about!

Not being regulated one way only!!!!!

Market forces my asre!!!



Supply and demand old chap.....when the demand is at its peak...charge a premium!

When there is little demand....lower fares.

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Fuel? Cheaper in France? Really?

Thing about market forces is that they work so well that vested interests do what they can to circumvent them. It's called a cartel. That's why we the Monopolies Commission and the OFT, hopefully to put a stop to market rigging.

It's not market forces that's increasing the price, it naked commercial greed.

And the Labour government and the EU are allowing them to get away with this.

Which is foolish. Because in the face of 5% inflation, workers, like the recent council workers strike here in Scotland, will not accept only 2.5%. To do so would see your standard of living eroded. Who's going to allow that?



Are you a prospective candidate for a Parliamentary seat in your constituency, or any constituency for that matter?

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Supply and demand old chap.....when the demand is at its peak...charge a premium!

When there is little demand....lower fares.


More like supply & very ocassional unmet demand.

But the government wouldn't let you have a free for all on cab fares; just one-way market forces.

Hypocritical stabards!

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
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Supply and demand old chap.....when the demand is at its peak...charge a premium!

When there is little demand....lower fares.


More like supply & very ocassional unmet demand.

But the government wouldn't let you have a free for all on cab fares; just one-way market forces.

Hypocritical stabards!


Its quite funny really....the arch deregulators always say a LA wont and dont limit the number of shops....and its true they dont.....but they then dont go into the shop and say hey! this is the maximum you can charge!

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CC You dont have to charge whats on the meter, you can charge less if you want.

That's what they mean by competition :wink:


That's OK Mr Skippy, as long as I can charge what I like when there are queues for cabs & too many passengers to cope as in snow, Christams & New Year, bus & train strikes.

That's what the free market is all about!

Not being regulated one way only!!!!!

Market forces my asre!!!



Supply and demand old chap.....when the demand is at its peak...charge a premium!

When there is little demand....lower fares.

CC


Yeah, but the question is what is creating allegedly low supply and high demand. If it's gained from the operation of a cartel that's not market forces.

Christ, it's like dealing with children.

Why don't you just put your brain in gear rather than swallowing all the effluent fed to you CC?

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CC You dont have to charge whats on the meter, you can charge less if you want.

That's what they mean by competition :wink:


That's OK Mr Skippy, as long as I can charge what I like when there are queues for cabs & too many passengers to cope as in snow, Christams & New Year, bus & train strikes.

That's what the free market is all about!

Not being regulated one way only!!!!!

Market forces my asre!!!



Supply and demand old chap.....when the demand is at its peak...charge a premium!

When there is little demand....lower fares.

CC


Yeah, but the question is what is creating allegedly low supply and high demand. If it's gained from the operation of a cartel that's not market forces.

Christ, it's like dealing with children.

Why don't you just put your brain in gear rather than swallowing all the effluent fed to you CC?

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Hey dude were deregulated here....and at 2am in the morning when there are queues of people wanting to go home...why cant I charge a premium to do so?

The operation of the cartel....in your world...doesnt exist if you get a plate?

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Yeah, but the question is what is creating allegedly low supply and high demand. If it's gained from the operation of a cartel that's not market forces.



"Cartel!!!"

Are you having a Giraffe?

Down here it's 'dog eat dog' in the cab trade now.

We have loads of drivers who regularly picking up from the middle of a rank or within very close proximity of a rank; another version of market forces!!

And enforcement, after receiving a complaint in writing, reply in writing that there is no offence being committed.

So 'dog eat dog' here I come too.

Cartel my aunt's knitting needles!!!

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Yeah, but the question is what is creating allegedly low supply and high demand. If it's gained from the operation of a cartel that's not market forces.



We have loads of drivers who regularly picking up from the middle of a rank or within very close proximity of a rank; another version of market forces!!

And enforcement, after receiving a complaint in writing, reply in writing !!!


We have that too....but we have become accustomed to it.

Bartering about fares is another good one.....doesn't work on the whole....except if the fare is a reasonably long one.

Refusing fares from ranks is a classic....the best one I heard was recently when there was a race-meeting, a cab driver refused a fare because the passenger didn't have the decency to want to go to the races!

Another good one was.....sorry boss I'm only doing long fares today.

Land of milk and honey indeed.

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
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Yeah, but the question is what is creating allegedly low supply and high demand. If it's gained from the operation of a cartel that's not market forces.



"Cartel!!!"

Are you having a Giraffe?

Down here it's 'dog eat dog' in the cab trade now.

We have loads of drivers who regularly picking up from the middle of a rank or within very close proximity of a rank; another version of market forces!!

And enforcement, after receiving a complaint in writing, reply in writing that there is no offence being committed.

So 'dog eat dog' here I come too.

Cartel my aunt's knitting needles!!!


Why don't you pay attention. The reference to supply and demand was specifically referring to the fuel market, raised in this thread.

And drivers picking up from the middle, or near ranks, has nothing to do with the market, just a lack of trade etiquette and enforcement of existing rules.

Any breach of the rules should be advised to the authorities, requiring them to take action against the transgressors. Only when this happens can some semblance of professional decency operate within the trade.

Merely whingeing and doing nothing about it doesn't improve matters.


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Any breach of the rules should be advised to the authorities, requiring them to take action against the transgressors. Only when this happens can some semblance of professional decency operate within the trade.

Merely whingeing and doing nothing about it doesn't improve matters.


Experience tells me that these instances are more prevalent in deregulated areas :shock:

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captain cab wrote:
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Any breach of the rules should be advised to the authorities, requiring them to take action against the transgressors. Only when this happens can some semblance of professional decency operate within the trade.

Merely whingeing and doing nothing about it doesn't improve matters.


Experience tells me that these instances are more prevalent in deregulated areas :shock:

CC


So, which areas are de-regulated captain cab?

Anyone care to help CC with this?


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