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skippy41
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captain cab wrote:
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This whole situation just illustrates how totally haphazard our system of local authorities is.
Why can nobody tell me why the system cannot be standardised?
Well, because it creates jobs for the very people who dream up the new rules!
How would some of them fare in the real world, I wonder.


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It is because locals are best placed to decide.


You want a standardised system? make all local authorities undertake demand surveys at a specific point to justify / clarify what is best for the public.

The current system, however haphazzard is IMO better than a blanket policy across the land where a faceless person makes unscrutinised decisions.

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It would be better if there where no restrictions on numbers anywhere they would then find there own levels over time
quality controls, and possibly age restrictions, are a better way forward, as it keeps the taxis and PH up to a decent standard, manufacturers are moving well ahead of the game with new safety features on new vehicles
I dont see the point either of some councils demanding that the vehicle be brand new at first licence
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skippy41 wrote:
captain cab wrote:
taxitrainer wrote:
This whole situation just illustrates how totally haphazard our system of local authorities is.
Why can nobody tell me why the system cannot be standardised?
Well, because it creates jobs for the very people who dream up the new rules!
How would some of them fare in the real world, I wonder.


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It is because locals are best placed to decide.


You want a standardised system? make all local authorities undertake demand surveys at a specific point to justify / clarify what is best for the public.

The current system, however haphazzard is IMO better than a blanket policy across the land where a faceless person makes unscrutinised decisions.

CC


It would be better if there where no restrictions on numbers anywhere they would then find there own levels over time
quality controls, and possibly age restrictions, are a better way forward, as it keeps the taxis and PH up to a decent standard, manufacturers are moving well ahead of the game with new safety features on new vehicles
I dont see the point either of some councils demanding that the vehicle be brand new at first licence


I dont entirely disagree, and that will probably come as a shock.

However, it always seems that in order to 'deregulate' we have more regulations.

CC

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captain cab wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
captain cab wrote:
taxitrainer wrote:
This whole situation just illustrates how totally haphazard our system of local authorities is.
Why can nobody tell me why the system cannot be standardised?
Well, because it creates jobs for the very people who dream up the new rules!
How would some of them fare in the real world, I wonder.


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It is because locals are best placed to decide.


You want a standardised system? make all local authorities undertake demand surveys at a specific point to justify / clarify what is best for the public.

The current system, however haphazzard is IMO better than a blanket policy across the land where a faceless person makes unscrutinised decisions.

CC


It would be better if there where no restrictions on numbers anywhere they would then find there own levels over time
quality controls, and possibly age restrictions, are a better way forward, as it keeps the taxis and PH up to a decent standard, manufacturers are moving well ahead of the game with new safety features on new vehicles
I dont see the point either of some councils demanding that the vehicle be brand new at first licence


I dont entirely disagree, and that will probably come as a shock.

However, it always seems that in order to 'deregulate' we have more regulations.

CC


Who said anything about deregulation? Try De-restriction?

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captain cab wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
captain cab wrote:
taxitrainer wrote:
This whole situation just illustrates how totally haphazard our system of local authorities is.
Why can nobody tell me why the system cannot be standardised?
Well, because it creates jobs for the very people who dream up the new rules!
How would some of them fare in the real world, I wonder.


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It is because locals are best placed to decide.


You want a standardised system? make all local authorities undertake demand surveys at a specific point to justify / clarify what is best for the public.

The current system, however haphazzard is IMO better than a blanket policy across the land where a faceless person makes unscrutinised decisions.

CC


It would be better if there where no restrictions on numbers anywhere they would then find there own levels over time
quality controls, and possibly age restrictions, are a better way forward, as it keeps the taxis and PH up to a decent standard, manufacturers are moving well ahead of the game with new safety features on new vehicles
I dont see the point either of some councils demanding that the vehicle be brand new at first licence


I dont entirely disagree, and that will probably come as a shock.

However, it always seems that in order to 'deregulate' we have more regulations.

CC


Who said anything about deregulation? Try De-restriction?

:roll:


Yeah we'll go with whatever word pulls the wool.

Nuclear aint a clever word either....shall we go with glow power?

And lets dispense with delimitation and derestriction....lets go with issuing licenses until nobody else wants one.

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captain cab wrote:
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captain cab wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
captain cab wrote:
taxitrainer wrote:
This whole situation just illustrates how totally haphazard our system of local authorities is.
Why can nobody tell me why the system cannot be standardised?
Well, because it creates jobs for the very people who dream up the new rules!
How would some of them fare in the real world, I wonder.


Quote:
It is because locals are best placed to decide.


You want a standardised system? make all local authorities undertake demand surveys at a specific point to justify / clarify what is best for the public.

The current system, however haphazzard is IMO better than a blanket policy across the land where a faceless person makes unscrutinised decisions.

CC


It would be better if there where no restrictions on numbers anywhere they would then find there own levels over time
quality controls, and possibly age restrictions, are a better way forward, as it keeps the taxis and PH up to a decent standard, manufacturers are moving well ahead of the game with new safety features on new vehicles
I dont see the point either of some councils demanding that the vehicle be brand new at first licence


I dont entirely disagree, and that will probably come as a shock.

However, it always seems that in order to 'deregulate' we have more regulations.

CC


Who said anything about deregulation? Try De-restriction?

:roll:


Yeah we'll go with whatever word pulls the wool.

Nuclear aint a clever word either....shall we go with glow power?

And lets dispense with delimitation and derestriction....lets go with issuing licenses until nobody else wants one.

CC


Well if no one wants one then what's the problem? :roll:

It only becomes a problem once you've got one but don't want anyone else to have one, now isn't that right captcab?

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The latest update of restricted councils can be found here, including developments in those authorities that are said to be contemplating a change of policy.

http://taxi-driver.co.uk/quota.html


I think Bristol should be on this list too.

As far as I know they have a similar policy on Hackney Carriage licences as Manchester, unless the policy has changed since 16th October 2007.

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
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The latest update of restricted councils can be found here, including developments in those authorities that are said to be contemplating a change of policy.

http://taxi-driver.co.uk/quota.html


I think Bristol should be on this list too.

As far as I know they have a similar policy on Hackney Carriage licences as Manchester, unless the policy has changed since 16th October 2007.


Bristol are deregulated.

I understand Trafford have stopped issuing plates.

The list needs several minor updates, I'll get around to it shortly.

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Bristol are deregulated.


When did Bristol de-regulate, because I can't find anything to that effect on their website?

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
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Bristol are deregulated.


When did Bristol de-regulate, because I can't find anything to that effect on their website?


6. Bristol. Removed quantity controls in November 2007. Implemented on 8/4/08. Will only license new purpose built wavs in blue. Ten year life span from new. Prefers not to license limousines.

Try the committee meeting of Nov 2007 but if they have re introduced quantity controls since last I spoke to the licensing office then I will be only too pleased to highlight that fact. The restricted council list by its nature does change from time to time but I'm pleased to see you're keeping me on my toes.

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allo allo wrote:
Are there any councils that have re-imposed a limit on Hackney Plate numbers after they had previously lifted it?
shefield have re imposed limit
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Are there any councils that have re-imposed a limit on Hackney Plate numbers after they had previously lifted it?
shefield have re imposed limit


They cannot do that, once limits have been removed they cannot reimpose them
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skippy41 wrote:
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Are there any councils that have re-imposed a limit on Hackney Plate numbers after they had previously lifted it?
shefield have re imposed limit


They cannot do that, once limits have been removed they cannot reimpose them


I'm afraid they can old chap....and did :wink:

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They cannot do that, once limits have been removed they cannot reimpose them

They did, but the problem the trade has now is that they can't blame anyone else now for their woes.

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Maidstone has increased its limits from 39 to 48 and frankly its killing our trade.
There is no way Maidstone could handle deregulation. Most of the town is on a single street which can handle at most 10 cabs parked at once.
Of course there are other spaces in various side streets away from the clubs and pubs etc but no one and I mean no one works there.

Ok its busy at the weekends but without that the job would be finished.
Please dont tar all towns with the same brush.
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We're not on any of your lists :cry:

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