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If the council insisted that there must be some wavs owners would just pull out, we do not have the earning power that is available in the cities or larger towns, I dont think anyone here has paid any more than 10k for a cab, 1 or 2 have bought new but after a few months they have had to hand them back as they could not make the payments.
If anyone takes over £400 per week its like winning the lottery here


Oh right, so you've no limit on the number of cabs then?


No, there are no restrictions on numbers at the last count it was 125, but i think that number has gone down recently as drivers get fed up of doing nothing.
so far I have no problems with having loads of loyal regulars and I do students discount while they are here, I only have to worry about myself no one else


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Anyway back to the issue. :roll: :roll: :roll:

How is issuing a minimum of 15 WAV plates in York going to sort the pedicab issue? :?

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Anyway back to the issue. :roll: :roll: :roll:

How is issuing a minimum of 15 WAV plates in York going to sort the pedicab issue? :?


No Idea Sussex, but they should not be a problem anyway as they will be only used for short trips.
The question is if the council only issue the 15 plates instead of completely derestricting who will get them.
I would make sure that they dont go to anyone who has one or more already


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No Idea Sussex, but they should not be a problem anyway as they will be only used for short trips.

My point is that those pedicabs will have to be licensed as taxis, and the new licenses are going to WAVs, or so we think. :?

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They could simply be done under a street traders licence, as they dont come under any taxi legislation


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They could simply be done under a street traders licence, as they dont come under any taxi legislation

No they need to be licensed as taxis.

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But a fairer way of bringing in a mixed fleet would be to introduce prime site ranks for WAV's only, just like Lincoln City Council wanted to, back in 1994?


Can't be done under current legislation, was that why Lincoln council decided against it, or was it some other reason? Even tinkering around the edges wouldn't solve that one.

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Or/and higher licence fees for non-wavs, say £2,000 a year, with WAV's zero rated.


It would be better if Europe legislated for a "one size fits all", piece of legislation. That way we would all be the same and LTI would have to compete on a level playing field.

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That would level the playing field, and bring in more WAV's for those millions of wheelchair bound folk out there who are desperate for the services of accessible transport?


No! The only thing that will level the playing field is the introduction of European legislation and we all know who is chit scared of that happening.

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http://democracy.york.gov.uk/Published/ ... ndices.pdf

some what flawed i do think of this survey

table 4.2 page 23

its qoutes taxi rank Clifford St [Gallery] night club

in one week 7896 people take a taxi from this night club

lets break this down

night club, max people that they can take in 600 people for full house

lets just say its full house every night so that equals 4200 people

now not every night clubber takes a taxi

as its only full on a weekend figures are not right, flawed

lets go on to look at further figures
Clifford St [Gallery, night club rank opposite night club to which is only classed a a 3 car feeder to the main rank to get outside the night club when things are slow

the survey shows a total of 4,860 people took a taxi during that week from the feeder rank, considering the feeder is never used this is buckem

as they on the report are saying 13666 people took a taxi from this night club when the max of people the night club could take is 4200 people, if it was choco block every night to which it isnt, some nights there are only a couple of hundred inside the night club

i am concerned that the survey has added the big groups of people to the taxi rank wait survey as potential taxi punters when they are stood near and on the taxi rank coming out of the club for a SMOKE BREAK, then going back into the club


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so Halcro have admitted the count error, but unmet demand is still there, where, well its the Railway stn rank where there's unmet demand

as the Council went down to speak to Stn taxis to see if some of these 15 plus cabs can use the station, stn taxis said no, the limit is in place

also how is it possible that a plate owner who lives in Berick upon Tweed has four plates rented out in York

http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/mostpopular. ... o_fall.php


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Speaking to The Press after the meeting, the secretary of York Taxi Association Alan Rowley said the impact on existing cab drivers would be "devastating".

Devastating is what has happened in Burma and China, not adding a few cabs to the York fleet.

I very much look forward to a time when we don't have folks like the tit above representing the trade, maybe it's best he sold he plate and simply f***ed off.

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Speaking to The Press after the meeting, the secretary of York Taxi Association Alan Rowley said the impact on existing cab drivers would be "devastating".

Devastating is what has happened in Burma and China, not adding a few cabs to the York fleet.

I very much look forward to a time when we don't have folks like the tit above representing the trade, maybe it's best he sold he plate and simply f***ed off.


I was standing next to him and the word he used was disappointing once again the press print what they like, as for being not the best person to represent the trade, you could not be further from the truth he does a good job.


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How many drivers do you think the extra 15 plates will;

He said: "There isn't enough work for us now and I'm very worried about the future. Some of us will go under."

I suggest the answer is none.

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I was standing next to him and the word he used was disappointing once again the press print what they like, as for being not the best person to represent the trade, you could not be further from the truth he does a good job.

Mr Thinker is there, or has there, been an answer to the pedicab issue? :?

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lets take a look at York situation, extra plates to come on [15]
i think as 3 or 4 new plate owners that come out that Council door with new plates they have already got buyers, whether it be 20 grand or 30 grand, wishing the Council thankyou very much, as they leave

some on the list who are PH have already got the 04 vehicle in wheelchair mode ready for this, they also have been touting for drivers

it is known one PH driver, future plate owner is putting on a TX4 [of all vehicles] whilst he carries on PH and has it double driven

the talk is rental prices may have to come down, i dont think they will, cant see it, you cant sell your plate for 60 grand cash but it is dead easy to sell it another way by way of, i'll rent you my plate for 250 quid for 5 years at the end its yours = 60 grand

the way York Council are going and with all the 600 PH having to go to Euro 4 emissions by 2010 i can see lots not bothering with the job

the days have now gone when PH firms advertise "wanted drivers, use your own vehiclle and jon us, make lots of money

for those future Hackney cab drivers who are to get plates, no the grass is not as green this side of town as you think

whilst we have plate barons sat on the beach in Spain, and in the Scottish borders rolling in £1500 per week from plate rentals, hope they take time out to think about June 09 with supplying Euro 4 emission vehicles to drivers who rent his plates and who cannot afford or cannot get credit to put this type of vehicle on, same goes for the Plumbers, Electricians, Garage Owners and Accountants who own York plates

but then again i am sure they can get round this or find another renter

wev'e seen em come, weve seen them go, a bit like the Max Hastings report from the 1982 battle of the Falklands on the aircraft carrier as the Sea Harriers took off, i counted them all out, i counted them all back in

i dont think it will work like this in York, they will soon get the hump if they cant earn and move on

Station Taxis have to take blame for all these extra plates, but bet your bottom dollar as time goes on the station rank will be busted open, just have to wait and see

there is still on going a one man band crusade to take the Council to court over the new vehicle colour of black and vehicle age, he presses on regardless, and good luck to the man

also led to believe on the Council list for new issue plates, a couple are already plate owners


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whilst we have plate barons sat on the beach in Spain, and in the Scottish borders rolling in £1500 per week from plate rentals,



Did I miss something here, Im PH fair enough but are TAXI plates Scarce In the Scottish Borders, Im in the Borders and ahm Just wondering if i fell asleep for 100 years like "Crumpled Foreskin" did in the fairytale...plates here id have thought were ten a penny as well as dead cheap...Please advise me on this one


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